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14th July 2017 - Deadzone Errata and FAQ - http://www.manticgames.com/SiteData/Root/File/FREE%20RULES/Deadzone%20Errata%20V2.1%202nd%20pass.pdf
https://manticblog.com/2017/07/14/deadzone-2-1-faqerrata-whats-changed/

Link to the General Discussion threads - Mantic's Sci-Fi games are now part of the Misc. Sci-Fi Miniature Games sub forum:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/forums/show/94.page

Index of News and Rumour contents with direct links

Industrial Terrain pre-production samples pg15 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/420/648800.page#8000987
Veer-Myn Progenitor and Chem Thrower renders pg15 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/420/648800.page#7979553
Asterian Droid print pg 18 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/510/648800.page#8010958
Asterian Troop Transport art pg 19 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/540/648800.page#8034382
WIP pics of painted Enforcer Interceptor pg19 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/540/648800.page#8093975
Rin Nomad pag 19 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/540/648800.page#8094080
Kalyshi renders pg 20 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/570/648800.page#8101425
Painted Enforcer Jetbike - pg21 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/600/648800.page#8116078
Veermyn and Pathfinder test sprues pg 24 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/690/648800.page#8125597
Plague Aberration and Orc Sky Scraper render pg 29 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/840/648800.page#8144499
more Veer-Myn previews, Broodmother, Shredders/Ravagers page 34 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/990/648800.page#8224026
Open Day pictures page 37 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1080/648800.page#8271735
Deadzone 2.0 Beta rules page 44 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1290/648800.page#8297080
GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1410/648800.page#8332777
Updated Deadzone Redux rules page 51 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1500/648800.page#8338555
Updated Deadzone Redux v1.5 rules page 56 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1650/648800.page#8360160
Updated Warpath Beta rules page 57 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1680/648800.page#8373166
New GCPS renders page 60 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1770/648800.page#8408999
Plague Hornet renders page 61 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1800/648800.page#8437449
Corporation Mule renders page 66- http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1950/648800.page#8493913
DZ:I painted previews page 67 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1980/648800.page#8511433
Warpath V1.0.1 links page 69 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2040/648800.page#8522428
Painted FF Tank page 73 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2160/648800.page#8582874
Enforcer and FF starter and booster sets page 74 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2190/648800.page#8584456
Painted Kalyshi page 74 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2190/648800.page#8584949
VM Nightmare sprue page 75 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2220/648800.page#8587386
Painted GCPS troop preview page 75 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2220/648800.page#8592125
Painted Asterian Marionettes page 78 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2310/648800.page#8617602
Deadzone Gameplay video page 79 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2340/648800.page#8619735
VeerMyn Piper retail sculpt page 86 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2550/648800.page#8660990
Open Day Ltd. Edition Teraton Shock trooper page 87 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2580/648800.page#8667556
Open Day pictures page 87/88 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2580/648800.page#8668595
Asterian Escort concept page 88 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2610/648800.page#8669292
"New" Dreadball MVPs page 89 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2640/648800.page#8695038
Dreadball 2nd Edition announcement page 89 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2640/648800.page#8707631
Deadzone FAQs and Errata page 89 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2640/648800.page#8718594
HIPS Mule and Unit Bases page 92 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2730/648800.page#8732065
Painted Mule, Marionettes, Plague Burster, Subject 901 page 93 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2760/648800.page#8750115
More Painted GCPS - Marines, Rangers, Weapon Team Hornet page 94 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2790/648800.page#8774965
Painted Forge Father Hultr Half-Track - now in PVC page 95 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2820/648800.page#8800368
Warpath Beta rules v1.3 (22nd July) page 95 - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2820/648800.page#8807738
Deadzone Errata and FAQ update pg 122 - https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/3630/648800.page#9491944

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If they can make that Forge Father tank match the concept art and in hard plastic, then I will be a very happy man.

Cheers for re-starting the thread Dave I could not find the old one to post these up.

Have we seen the enforcer drop ship before? It seems familiar.

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Yep same artwork they used before as is the Asterian Tank. I reposted it for completeness sake so it's all in this thread . I'll round up some of the other DZI and DBX stuff when I have more time.

I like the Forgefather Tank it has just the right amount of Forgefather design without being OTT (IMO)

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You guys are going to love the new Warpath rules.

BoW backstage pass only thing is a bit annoying, I remember them doing that with the WP 1.0 beta back in the day... but at least you know it's on the way.

The new rules were demo'ed at the Open Day today, so here's some teasers:

- d6 is the main dice used.
- 4 stats per unit: Spd, Acc, Def, Brk
- Element-based gameplay, 5 models per game unit (or 2 for large infantry, 1 for massive infantry). Multibasing is entirely optional, same as KoW, all that is required is to mark out a leader model for each team, everything is measured from there.
- Scalable morale and model removal mechanic. Not KoW or Warpath 2.0, something new that's in-between the two. Brk stat scales with unit size.
- Command Pool of dice (custom d8's) that can be used to execute command orders.
- Suppression features heavily as a mechanic.
- Activation is straightforward. The entire weird WP 2.0 mechanic is scrapped. One player activates a unit, then the other player activates a unit etc.
- Long and Short Actions are the system used to move/shoot/melee/regroup etc. with units, similar to Deadzone and Mars Attacks.

Gameplay is fast at its core, with little in the way of stats to remember or things to look up, the game scales very nicely, I can see the rules working out great for games of either 30 minis a side or 200. Tactical complexity comes with firepower decisions (suppress or kill?), command orders, mission-focused gameplay.

Might even be worth giving the rules a try at 6mm using some old Epic figures too!

The public beta on this will be very long, you will have months and months to play and offer feedback before the Kickstarter even begins.

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Great to hear that ScarletSquig, a long beta will be great for the game (and help those of you on the Rules Committee too).

It looks like things are looking up in the world of Warpath.


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I am not sure what to think about command dice, but the rest sounds good

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Put me down for 12 of those FF tanks.

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Are they ever going to do anything with the Corporation again?

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 BrookM wrote:
Are they ever going to do anything with the Corporation again?


Yes. Corp vs. Z'zor DZ campaign.

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102nd Expeditionary Fleet

So, no vehicles any time soon then? I mean, this is supposed to be their not-Guard faction, but as of yet it still doesn't have any vehicles or the like..

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Damn, after Deadzone it would have been nice to have a D8 based wargame, but D6s are easier to buy and roll in mass quantities I suppose and is more in-line with Mantics target demographic: former GW players

Some of that rundown sounds great, some not so much. The limited stats I'm not a fan of, but the measuring from leader to leader gives me a bit of a Starship Troopers vibe. A good thing, that was a solid game mechanically. I'm assuming Brk is morale? "break point" or somesuch? I'm a little surprised they don't have separate Shoot and Fight values like in DZ, doesn't seam like it would add too much to the complexity but would differentiate units better.

Suppression isn't something that excites me in a wargame one bit. It's fairly realistic, but it's absolutely boring to place all your pretty little toys on the field and be unable to move or shoot with them for half the game, It's far less frustrating to just remove them from the table as casualties. It's my least favorite thing about deadzone and I don't think I could be any less excited about Blaze Away type effects being added to WP.

That said, the alternating activations is good news. Hopefully they have a mechanic to buffer using cheap units as activation sinks, balancing horde-style vs elite forces has always been a big problem in alt-act games and usually swings hard in favor of one over the other, but I always found alt-act to add an immediate level of depth over I-go-U-go games. Alt-act adds a lot of what I like about euro-style board games: having a large amount of choices but limited chances to act and needing to prioritize what you want/need to accomplish most.



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Definitely like the look of the FF tank !

Been waiting for these rules for a while, hopefully there will be a load of other releases along at the same time (and really flesh out some of the factions).

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Mmm I thought they'd promised the beta rules to backers in one of the deadzone campaigns..... I guess not

I like the astrian tank (or flying machine in my hands) and the Tunneler is a must have if they can make it nice and sharp in HIPS

 
   
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That dropship was designed by somebody who knows nothing about aerodynamics. We know GW is gak at this, but that doesn't mean Mantic needs to too.

 scarletsquig wrote:
BoW backstage pass only thing is a bit annoying, I remember them doing that with the WP 1.0 beta back in the day... but at least you know it's on the way.

Backstage pass? Seriously? Why the feth should we pay those clowns at BoW for the privilege of doing Mantic's job for them?

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 AlexHolker wrote:
That dropship was designed by somebody who knows nothing about aerodynamics. We know GW is gak at this, but that doesn't mean Mantic needs to too.

 scarletsquig wrote:
BoW backstage pass only thing is a bit annoying, I remember them doing that with the WP 1.0 beta back in the day... but at least you know it's on the way.

Backstage pass? Seriously? Why the feth should we pay those clowns at BoW for the privilege of doing Mantic's job for them?



Honestly, I think it would be boring and out of character for the Enforcers drop ship to look streamlined. I'm willing to pretend they have some sort of aerodynamic force fields that give the ship an effective blended/lifting body flying teardrop shape, and enough thrust to ignore aerodynamics altogether if they want.

   
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That vermyn tank could prove useful for reasons........... Yes.......reasons

   
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That vermyn tank could prove useful for reasons........... Yes.......reasons


Indeed.
   
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Because I am used to the GW Space Marines Fighter Design, the Enforcer DropShip looks perfectly aerodynamic to me

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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
 AlexHolker wrote:
That dropship was designed by somebody who knows nothing about aerodynamics. We know GW is gak at this, but that doesn't mean Mantic needs to too.


Honestly, I think it would be boring and out of character for the Enforcers drop ship to look streamlined. I'm willing to pretend they have some sort of aerodynamic force fields that give the ship an effective blended/lifting body flying teardrop shape, and enough thrust to ignore aerodynamics altogether if they want.

I, of course, disagree. To me, what makes an interesting design interesting is how the aesthetics of the faction are tempered by necessity. You want to rely on the "Rule of Cool" to avoid criticism of the design, but the "Rule of Cool" only applies if you don't need to cite it. The rules of competent vehicle design do not rely on the audience liking your design so much more than the alternatives that they turn a blind eye to its flaws - a dropship that looks like it could actually work stands on its own merits.

And "Lol, forcefields" is a terrible cop-out. Where's the fun in buying a "dropship" whose most significant feature is something we, the audience, cannot see? You can get away with it somewhat with aliens of the unfathomable sort, but this is a human aircraft which should be much more WYSIWYG.

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Meh, don't care about the aerodynamics of it, I just really want one of those dropships. Or a few. I really like its design. I could go for some Asterian and Forge father tanks, too.

   
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I especially like how the Forge Father tank retains the "this could be used for mining" look, with the bulldozer blade front armor and the mining laser cannon.

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Considering the aerodynamic "shoe boxes" that GW get away with. I think the Enforcer drop ship looks very aerodynamic. I for one am looking forward to its release.

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Take your flying contraptions and give me more mining drill machines.

Those veermyn are some lucky ducks... err rats, to be more precise.


Would be great to have some sort of marker for one erupting out of the ground.

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That first tank looks pretty stylish...even if I didn't play any Mantic games I'd probably still buy it. Hope the final product will end up looking as good as the concept art!

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 Fezman wrote:
That first tank looks pretty stylish...even if I didn't play any Mantic games I'd probably still buy it. Hope the final product will end up looking as good as the concept art!


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