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Well... huh. Guess I'll probably get me some Corp troopers.

I just hope there's enough fully enclosed heads to make them all a bunch of faceless cannon fodder.

I can see these being a good seller for Mantic if they manage to squeeze in lots of optional heads and weapon loadouts.

After they've promised me that the mules are going to be resin... I'm considering those as well. The army deal just has one though right? Screw that, pack of mules and a 20/20 infantry would serve better...but if the shipping is high enough I may still stay away.

I'm going to do a fair bit of noodling around with the PM to get maximum minis with minimum shipping. It's going to be difficult, I know...

Also, I'd gotten what I hope is final confirmation on materials for a few pieces.

Plague Bursters - Metal
Plague Murder Birds - Metal
Veer-myn Tunnel Runner - TBC Resin or Metal
Veer- myn Tangle - TBC Resin or Metal (it's being annoying)
GCPS Mule - Resin

Straight from Mantic's blue box of comments. Hope that helps others in deciding what they want!

 CptJake wrote:
I wish the guy with the grenade launcher had something indicating he was carrying extra rounds.

One of the earlier renders showed a guy with spare grenade rounds on his arm. I'm betting there's a binch of glue on accessories like that. If you notice, one of the Rangers has a knife sheathed on his left forearm.

After seeing these, I think I'm ready to put in my pledge now. I'm satisfied by what I see. As an added bonus, they look like they can fit in with Anvil's Afterlife range, too.

What's 'TBC Resin'?

'To be confirmed'. In other words, they'll be resin or metal pending demand.

Ah, thanks!

For a minute there I thought they'd come up with a new name for 'restic'!

I rather like those troopers.

Heads look a bit large (at least the unhelmeted ones) but overall I'm pleasantly surprised.

 Alpharius wrote:
Ah, thanks!

For a minute there I thought they'd come up with a new name for 'restic'!

Total bitch to clean would be a better name for restic

"Plague" Hornet

The above image shows the new components that are used to Plague-ify the Hornet. These include everything from damaged hull plating to makeshift blades and, of course, corpse trophies. These are all additional Hard Plastic Components included in the kit.

Was hoping more for an "poorly maintained" angle rather than "adding stupid decorations". Oh well, I'm using the stock Corp versions anyway. The base model is totally sweet.

I like the regular one too. Guess it's supposed to be more of a not-valkyrie, I was hoping for a not-stormtalon but I guess it wouldn't be too difficult to add some missiles and guns around the nose area.

Ugh.. the wings are soooo stumpy.. Which wouldn't be so bad if the fuselage didn't feel so massive and heavy. It just feels like a flying Zamboni.

 MLaw wrote:
It just feels like a flying Zamboni.

That now totally needs to be stenciled under the cockpit.

I feel if they'd done the poorly maintained style it would be too orky in the end.....not a big fan of the decorations myself, but at least the option is there for those that want it.

Does anyone else get the impression from Mad Max's posture that he's faking his distress over being tied down? I get a real Bill Murray-in-Little Shop of Horrors vibe from that mini.

Péter Nagy A'right, any words about the Warpath:firefight ruleset?
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Mantic Games Péter Nagy - the baby that wont get born! we have had about 3 attmepts at this! finally we have got somethign that looks promising from one of the KoW rules committee. I think we will ge tit into a format that people can have a go and share them - I only seems fair to extand the deadline for the pledge manager too becuase people need time to have a go and see if they want to come in. Watch out for both those announcments Matt Gilbert fyi

See, I knew this was going to happen with Firefight. Even now we're seeing a "soon" response. I was told basically the exact same thing while the KS was active. They were "testing" it and they'd have something for us soon after the KS ended to share or somesuch. Mantic has easily earned my views of "believe it when I see it" on everything from sculpts to releases to rules.

They don't even have the basics nailed down? That's not promising...

So is this this first hint that Warpath might slip from September given the TWD has to ship in August it seems inevitable (that and the lack of Firefight rules)

Johannes Dingle What is the planned release date for warpath?
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Mantic Games not yet confirmed. Once we have firefight nailed down we will confirm shipping dates for the KS and the release date will be a couple of months after that
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If they really add to the pledge manager deadline I suspect it has more to do with it currently ending at the same time the Walking Dead KS ends.

I pledged $1 for this because I want KOW style rules I can use my IG army in, but I'm actually becoming tempted by the GCPS renders...

Here's my problem: I don't need basic human troops with heavy weapons. I have a huge IG army for all my GCPS footslogging needs. But... I want a sci-fi, near future, pseudo elysian airmobile army. I'm looking at pretty slick renders for infantry models I can preorder for a buck a piece, and drop ships that come down to $25 per in three packs. That being said... what, exactly, is the market for used Valkyrie hulls right now, and would it be cheaper to buy them instead of paying shipping and waiting on the Hornets?

As for the troops, 20 for $20 is awesome, but what will they be at retail, when I won't have to wait for Mantic's fulfillment to get to me? If you look at the Abyssals, the Kickstarter had them at $15 for 20, while they retail for $30 for 20, or $50 for 40. The warstore will throw 20% off on top of that, so KS backers paid $0.75 a piece, while retail customers will payjust under a buck a piece. Based on that, let's assume Mantic packages the GCPS at $35 for 20, but I can buy them retail for about $28 for 20.

The math indicates that I might want to hold off, keep my money, and see what I want in six months. OTOH... the thought of getting a big box of shock troops for under a hundo is very appealing!

 Polonius wrote:
I pledged $1 for this because I want KOW style rules I can use my IG army in, but I'm actually becoming tempted by the GCPS renders...

Here's my problem: I don't need basic human troops with heavy weapons. I have a huge IG army for all my GCPS footslogging needs. But... I want a sci-fi, near future, pseudo elysian airmobile army. I'm looking at pretty slick renders for infantry models I can preorder for a buck a piece, and drop ships that come down to $25 per in three packs. That being said... what, exactly, is the market for used Valkyrie hulls right now, and would it be cheaper to buy them instead of paying shipping and waiting on the Hornets?

As for the troops, 20 for $20 is awesome, but what will they be at retail, when I won't have to wait for Mantic's fulfillment to get to me? If you look at the Abyssals, the Kickstarter had them at $15 for 20, while they retail for $30 for 20, or $50 for 40. The warstore will throw 20% off on top of that, so KS backers paid $0.75 a piece, while retail customers will payjust under a buck a piece. Based on that, let's assume Mantic packages the GCPS at $35 for 20, but I can buy them retail for about $28 for 20.

The math indicates that I might want to hold off, keep my money, and see what I want in six months. OTOH... the thought of getting a big box of shock troops for under a hundo is very appealing!

I'll wait on the Warstore/Miniature Market personally. If only because of shipping costs eating into the discount too. I put a buck in for rules and on the possibility I might want something for the Forge Fathers. I didn't get excited and the regular FF coming from the DZ2 KS so I'm good on those too.

 Polonius wrote:

As for the troops, 20 for $20 is awesome, but what will they be at retail, when I won't have to wait for Mantic's fulfillment to get to me? If you look at the Abyssals, the Kickstarter had them at $15 for 20, while they retail for $30 for 20, or $50 for 40. The warstore will throw 20% off on top of that, so KS backers paid $0.75 a piece, while retail customers will payjust under a buck a piece. Based on that, let's assume Mantic packages the GCPS at $35 for 20, but I can buy them retail for about $28 for 20.

The math indicates that I might want to hold off, keep my money, and see what I want in six months. OTOH... the thought of getting a big box of shock troops for under a hundo is very appealing!

The other part of that equation is the shipping. I'll take a look at it all this weekend or next and decide what I want to do. Use or add to my $200-odd sitting there, or ask for a refund after seeing what AU shipping is like for a few sprues.

Yep, $20 for 20 troops! sucks ass when you add the $20 postage to it.

 Polonius wrote:
I pledged $1 for this because I want KOW style rules I can use my IG army in, but I'm actually becoming tempted by the GCPS renders...

Here's my problem: I don't need basic human troops with heavy weapons. I have a huge IG army for all my GCPS footslogging needs. But... I want a sci-fi, near future, pseudo elysian airmobile army. I'm looking at pretty slick renders for infantry models I can preorder for a buck a piece, and drop ships that come down to $25 per in three packs. That being said... what, exactly, is the market for used Valkyrie hulls right now, and would it be cheaper to buy them instead of paying shipping and waiting on the Hornets?

As for the troops, 20 for $20 is awesome, but what will they be at retail, when I won't have to wait for Mantic's fulfillment to get to me? If you look at the Abyssals, the Kickstarter had them at $15 for 20, while they retail for $30 for 20, or $50 for 40. The warstore will throw 20% off on top of that, so KS backers paid $0.75 a piece, while retail customers will payjust under a buck a piece. Based on that, let's assume Mantic packages the GCPS at $35 for 20, but I can buy them retail for about $28 for 20.

The math indicates that I might want to hold off, keep my money, and see what I want in six months. OTOH... the thought of getting a big box of shock troops for under a hundo is very appealing!

The PM shipping will be nearly $20 in addition. Wait for retail.

Sounds like I'm waiting for retail!

The funny thing is.. a lot of the time, Miniature Market posts up the exact bundles from Kickstarters at similar prices. Then you just rack up the free shipping and wonder why you messed with that silly Kickstarter business in the first place.

Is there a guestimate for when the hornets will hit retail?

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Is there a guestimate for when the hornets will hit retail?

I would guess early next year, as Warpath isn't even being delivered to backers until the end of this year.

....which will no doubt get rolled over into post-CNY because unforeseen delays - as all their other HIPS has in recent-ish times.