Imperial steam punk....what? this time e is really dead, bones?

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**lone dirty dog**

Dam beaten again

I was going to say that bloody hell " now smashing my room up franticly "….. "mow realising that was a bad idea and the misses does not look to pleased "

No seriously Vik these are coming on nicely, I have a small package here that might help with this project

o wait that sounds weird

I will post it tomorrow, sorry there is not a lot in it but the room is still a mess at the moment, so these are just a few that were lying around in the bit box.

However if they are of some use let me know I will dig out the rest

The grey resin ones I chucked in thought you might have a use for them

**Viktor von Domm**

i might know of some that you are talking about... but most sounds mysterious to me...

... remains to be seen what the postman brings then^^

well all i can say is that it is a totally fun thing to build... i can only encourage peeps to build their own UFO´s

**Rawson**

dsteingass wrote:...Waiting patiently

Standing in the queue...

**Viktor von Domm**

you did see my update rawson?

**lone dirty dog**

Its on its way I promise, I tried to build with one of the cup things but it looked gak

so I had to copy what you did

However it will be slightly different

although as I proceed with this I see why you did what you did and why you did it.

I have to say I have tried several canopy options, but nothing has come close to the ping pong ball

so I am looking towards that as well

However the weapon load out will not be the same, not because I don't like it ( I do they were brilliant and a great use of bits ) I just don't have the bitz

LOL

I have done a small difference all ready, but you will just have to wait for the moment

**Rawson**

Viktor von Domm wrote:you did see my update rawson?

Not sure what happened there. I'm going to chalk it up as chronic background level fatigue.

Today our neighbor had to run after my wife and I as we were off to church and asked if we really wanted to leave the door to our apartment open.

Viktor von Domm wrote:

Great work here, Vik! The canopy effect is really convincing! The smoke could use a bit more work though...

Viktor von Domm wrote:and the matching troops... atm a mere test to see if it works...the scheme that is...

currently i think it involves a bit too much black... i think the black shoulderpads have to be painted in grey too...

opinions?

I don't think there is too much black. In fact, if you do the shoulders in grey, I think there will be too much of that! I think it will come together when you start picking out details....

**Viktor von Domm**

if you are still able to do another canopy... i have an idea for you.... my so called fallback option... if the ping pong ball sucked too much....

use a milk bottle lid that fits that indented rim in the middle... it must be tall enough to convince the audience that this is a cockpit...like this...and then you can even add a hatch to it to have one of your lil grotz looking out...

**AnUnearthlyChilde**

I like crappy B movies lols, so when I get round to watching it I'll most likely love it!!!

but tbh, as an idea for an army, it actually sounds awesome, so I can't wait to see more!!!

**Viktor von Domm**

oh my rawson... sleep deprivation at its best?... forgetfullness is usually the first sign... or are you feeling anger and such things too? your lil sunshine is keeping your nights alight too it seems... i know that one quite well...

the smoke you can be sure will be dealt with... i want to have a red/yellowish start that then transfers into grey and lastly black oily smoke at the bottom...

and the details will come... i already added orange eyes... matching the lights and canopy on the UFO... and of course lots of other colors will appear soon too... and they will get a nice shoulderpad freehand too... don´t want that army to look too naziesque now don´t we

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thanks childe... and who doesn´t like crapy B-movies... beside... thinking of godzilla movies... the music was always one of my favorites... i bloody love the marches!!!!

**shasolenzabi**

Iron sky was good! I also miss my Warzone minis

**Viktor von Domm**

for me it was soso... it didn´t live up to my expectations... tho the lineup was quite brilliant...for such a fanmovie...

**AnUnearthlyChilde**

Godzilla had the best choice of classical music ever, for me they weren't B-movies... they were A-movies!!!

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BTW:

the Iron Sky flying saucer and the Dalek flying Saucer look too damn similar...

two races fighting for sole supremacy...

Coincidence? I THINK NOT!!!

**Rogue Wolves**

Vik the UFO looks really cool! As do the matching troops, the only thing I think that is missing from the troops is a highlight on the black areas, and maybie add some red somewhere just to add some color plus it would tie it in with the UFO still!

**AnUnearthlyChilde**

Well Vik, I just watched Iron Sky and I must admit I bloody loved it!!!

Funny, great effects, and a good bit of satire imo

although now it has cemented my wanting to build a Dalek Saucer from scratch

**cormadepanda**

Rogue Wolves wrote: .. It'll work in my case since for some unseen reason, she never saw star wars... dont worry I am both a gentleman.. and a teacher

Sounds like America... Lolpoor sap you shouldn't teach

**shasolenzabi**

So many wild projects sucking resources up was the undoing of the German Warmachine in WW-II, added to the over-engineered stuff like the Tigers. (My head is full of this information)

One Tiger Tank sucked the resources for several Panzer-IV's and Panzer IV's were made at peak taking as long as a month to make 1,000 compared to the 3,400 a month Shermans and T-34's

**lone dirty dog**

Viktor von Domm wrote:if you are still able to do another canopy... i have an idea for you.... my so called fallback option... if the ping pong ball sucked too much....

use a milk bottle lid that fits that indented rim in the middle... it must be tall enough to convince the audience that this is a cockpit...like this...and then you can even add a hatch to it to have one of your lil grotz looking out...

Thanks Vik tried it but does not have the same feel to it

I will have to alter mine a different way

**HAZZER**

So are you starting to do some propped 40k now???

**Viktor von Domm**

at hazzer... sorry mate... you lost me in translation here^^

at shaso... the whole secret weapon thing with the late war german army is one big movie making thing... so much potential... iirc in a game they made lots of cool weapon systems... battlefield ? and yep... the tanks got ever bigger and bigger and well...not that i want it to be that way... but if some better warfare strategists had led through that war who knows how everything migt have turned out...i for one am glad gemany lost that war... it was just the bitchslap germany was entitled for for a long time... in fact if me and my family wouldn´t live here i would call out for another one...

at childe... well some parts i also liked quite a lot to tell a truth...the epic battle with the numerous spacestations was in my opinion a bit too much... but there you are...

and yep i see the connection... and it is not really a coincidence... daleks and nazi´s it´s the same lot...wouldn´t you say so?

at RW... yes a bit of more warmer color is much needed... the minis are far from finished...at all... lots of additional stuff is needed...only the merest of beginngs...

on a related note... wasn´t able to do zip today... today was my very first working day with all my new kids in school... and it was most exhausting... i hope in the coming days i and they will adjust to the whole thing and it will get a bit less exhausting...then i will present a new update...

by the way... welcome cormadepanda!!! by the way... i know you explained your name... but it reads for me like:

cor! made panda... which is a bit mysterious... how can someone make it up to panda level ?

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oh forgott.... LDD... well i will hopefully see your own take on this subject!

**AnUnearthlyChilde**

Well Vik, back when doctor who first started a woman called Mary Whitehouse, who took it upon herself to be the nations moral conscience... suffice to say, she did not like Doctor Who one bit, this is some of what she said about the show:

“What finally persuaded me to complain was a story I heard from a young mother who lives nearby. During the week following the programme, her son of five said to her, apparently a propos of nothing in particular, ‘Mummy, I know what to do with (his younger brother) when he makes me cross. I shall hold his head under the bath water until he’s still like the man did with Dr. Who’. The truth of the matter, of course, is that ‘Doctor Who’ was always intended as an early evening adult viewer catcher – catch ‘em early and you’ve got them for the night, so the ‘research’ shows. After all, we must keep our priorities right, mustn’t we?

“The programme contains some of the sickest and most horrific material ever seen on children’s television, but no-one has to take my word that such material is likely to disturb. For young children, even a week may be too long to wait for reassurance that the characters with whom they identify are safe. Doctor Who has turned into tea-time brutality for tots. My personal reaction to the sight of the Doctor being viciously throttled underwater is unimportant. What’s important is the effect of such material – especially in a modern setting – upon the very young children still likely to be watching. Strangulation – by hand, by claw, by obscene vegetable matter – is the latest gimmick, sufficiently close-up so that they get the point. And, just for a little variety, show the children how to make a Molotov cocktail.

“So what are we to do? Sit back and say nothing when – after panning to the contorted visage of the demented murderer – the final shot of this particular episode was a close-up shot of the Doctor’s apparently drowned face lying still beneath the water? Nothing said – a new barrier broken.”

She was a bloody nuisance, and proved wrong ultimately...

anyways, the Daleks were created by Terry Nation, who I think was a war child and as such had influences of Nazi's which isn't a big leap to Daleks tbh...

**shasolenzabi**

Not at all a big leap Childe

Oh likely had your family left, you would be be speaking either English in Britain or over here in the States.

Now the Germans in the game Rust Tactics(FFG game) got rid of the insanely incompetents, and took advantage of alien tech, followed by the Allies and Soviets, so alternate worlds there.

I see WW-I and WW-II influences in 40k, considering it was a game made in England I do not have to wonder why so much has elements of mythology+Trenches+Blitzkrieg in it. It is English glory days and last hurrah in spaaaaaaaaaace!

**AnUnearthlyChilde**

Well in the history of the Dalek's it was originally a war on Skarro between two races, the Dalek's and the Thaal's. The war got desperate, and during one of the Dalek raids on the Thaal's they took POW's, one of whom was Davros. after a period of intense torture Davros succumbed to Stockholm syndrome and began to work with the Dalek's willingly, he was a genius and a scientist. He eventually took to trying to save the Dalek's by genetic manipulation after the dalek's dropped nukes all over Skarro. In the end his insanity created the Dalek mutant race which inhabits the tin cans they rattle about in...

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shasolenzabi wrote:Not at all a big leap Childe

Oh likely had your family left, you would be be speaking either English in Britain or over here in the States.

Now the Germans in the game Rust Tactics(FFG game) got rid of the insanely incompetents, and took advantage of alien tech, followed by the Allies and Soviets, so alternate worlds there.

I see WW-I and WW-II influences in 40k, considering it was a game made in England I do not have to wonder why so much has elements of mythology+Trenches+Blitzkrieg in it. It is English glory days and last hurrah in spaaaaaaaaaace!

I'd hardly call being bombed to gak our "Glory days" Shas... The British Glory days were when the Empire still existed and the country still had manors and decorum.

Also my family is British-Italian, my Grandmother was from Udine - Italy, and my Grandfather was from London - England.

**Viktor von Domm**

a nice mixture... italians being axis chums to the germans... but from some stories i´ve heard where it not for certain invasiosn the germans and the british could have been allies as well... not a big leap there back in the days...

and... that lil article sure can creep you out... if my kids would talk like that... i probably need to belt them one over to reset their brains...

and you always get those moral appostels... there is no helping ...
ever since you showed us your dalek sculpt i read a bit on wikipedia about them... thus the connection for me to the nazi´s wasn´t too hard to make... and the stokhol syndrom always struck me as the weirdest thing on the planet...

**AnUnearthlyChilde**

Well my Grandfather flew as part of coastal command for the RAF, so one of his stations was in italy which is where he met my grandmother.

well the brain does funny things when its in trouble, tis base survival instincts imo, hence stolkholm syndrome.

**Viktor von Domm**

wait... your gramps met your gramps???

and yep... mind 2.0 is so much needed...

**AnUnearthlyChilde**

shush you... tired lols

**shasolenzabi**

Childe, WW-II was the end of the Empire as they lost so many colonies due to the reasons of WW-II. Yes England was bombed to gak during the blitz, but in the end, you were on the winning side of WW-II as well as WW-I both eras for the days of Empire.

Oh and they were Kaleds before becoming Daleks under Davros.

History is full of turning points.

**AnUnearthlyChilde**

shasolenzabi wrote:Childe, WW-II was the end of the Empire as they lost so many colonies due to the reasons of WW-II. Yes England was bombed to gak during the blitz, but in the end, you were on the winning side of WW-II as well as WW-I both eras for the days of Empire.

Oh and they were Kaleds before becoming Daleks under Davros.

History is full of turning points.

Sorry I don't see it that way, the break up of the british empire was finalised after WW2 in the 50's. The colonies wanted independance for other reasons.

also, I know they were Kaleds, it is less confusing to call them daleks when trying to describe a bit of sci-fi history to someone who doesnt know the show.

**Viktor von Domm**

shush you... tired lols

....lol

trying to describe a bit of sci-fi history to someone who doesnt know the show.

working on this... soon i will start^^

**Scarper**

The canopy is fantastic, Vik! Really great effect. Looking forward to seeing how you tackle the smoke - I've never personally worked with cotton wool like that before

I think the uniform scheme has some good potential (it's a pretty classic look for an army with negative overtones

), and I'm excited to see it with a few more spot colours in there. Can't wait to see how they work out! No idea how you keep anything organised with so many projects on the go at once htough