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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 12:47:38
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/17 New Characters
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Well I got 2 out of that lot right  Sorry I thought you meant what V I thought you were joking
That has put me right of getting the witch hunter model now, why cant they sort this issue out
Cant wait to see what you do with these two, although the hunter I can understand the wraith is that going to be a psyker
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 12:57:44
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/17 New Characters
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
California + Philidelphia
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quite interested in seeing what you do with that witch hunter!
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"Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 15:11:44
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/17 New Characters
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Deadly Tomb Guard
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I have really enjoyed looking through this thread. Great conversions and GS work. Looking forward to seeing more
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 17:57:44
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/17 New Characters
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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 ... i try to take the ppics tomorrow...promise! too much RL (easterholidays and closed time in the nrusery school of my kids...so everyone was at home for one and a half week...)
the new minis i think will do great... the witchhunter without any doubt...the wraith will be very ineresting to see how you convert it....
looking forward to more of your stuff...
cherrs, vik
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 08:05:52
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/17 New Characters
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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lone dirty dog wrote:That has put me right of getting the witch hunter model now, why cant they sort this issue out
I agree. I don't really see the need for resin anyways. Their new plastic injection techniques have been great! The detail gained by no means outweighs the problems... Viktor von Domm wrote: ... i try to take the ppics tomorrow...promise! too much RL (easterholidays and closed time in the nrusery school of my kids...so everyone was at home for one and a half week...)
No sweat. I just like giving you a bad time Regnak wrote:I have really enjoyed looking through this thread. Great conversions and GS work. Looking forward to seeing more lone dirty dog wrote:Cant wait to see what you do with these two, Rogue Wolves wrote:quite interested in seeing what you do with that witch hunter! Viktor von Domm wrote:the new minis i think will do great... the witchhunter without any doubt...the wraith will be very ineresting to see how you convert it....looking forward to more of your stuff..
Thanks, guys! I hope to not disappoint! lone dirty dog wrote:although the hunter I can understand the wraith is that going to be a psyker
Astropath. I don't really like the stock one, so I thought I'd make my own darker, scarier version Here's what I got done last night: cleaned up some of the garbage Failcast (though no GS yet), removed some of the overly Empire stuff (comets and fluffy pants), added the bolt pistol mag and the iconic commissar hat. I'm pretty happy with the results so far!  I thought about doing the secretive unveiling (a la Baiyuan), but I couldn't manage  Do you think the magazine comes too far down? I thought about trimming the top section off (which would require that I commit heresy, since I would be willingly destroying rivets), but the mag might look better if it were tighter to the pistol. Thoughts? CC most welcome! Thanks for looking! Rawson
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The 104th Vostroyan Mechanized
Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 08:19:30
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Commissar Update
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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i think the mag needs a bit of GS to fit more snuggly to the pistol but otherwise i think it looks great!
where did you get that hat?? don´t recognize that one...
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*off to get hard time with the cam...^^* Automatically Appended Next Post: no...really the hardship begins when i have to wrestle with the bitzbox... i should be really finishing the knight^^ and bitzboxes wet the eppetite for mini assembly^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 08:31:38
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Commissar Update
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Viktor von Domm wrote:i think the mag needs a bit of GS to fit more snuggly to the pistol but otherwise i think it looks great!
Thanks, Vik. GS will come next. I'll see what I can come up with
Viktor von Domm wrote:where did you get that hat?? don´t recognize that one...
It's a Baneblade commander's cap, and I've been saving that head for a special project. I think it does the job pretty well!
Viktor von Domm wrote: i should be really finishing the knight^^ and bitzboxes wet the eppetite for mini assembly^^
I wouldn't worry about it too much. If you looked at my workspace, I have at least 6 different projects I'm working on (Commissar, astropath, Medusa, plasmagunners, roughriders, and snipers). Do what you want to do, otherwise you get burned out. I find that going around in circles (from project to project) is the fastest way to get somewhere
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The 104th Vostroyan Mechanized
Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 08:35:57
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Commissar Update
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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yep...that project circulation aproach is quite a fruitful one^^ somehow the projects just accumulate^^ i had a slight suspicion that it might have been the baneblade commander hat Automatically Appended Next Post:  here it is...even with a comparrision of either IG or SM plasma gun... i dunno which one is which but on the left you have orky and chaosy plasmaguns...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 09:49:34
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Commissar Update
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I like the look of the witch hunter great idea, plus removing all that detail has worked wonders, as Vik had mentioned a little GS work might help to blend the mag better.
I like the idea of the commissar hat although it looks a little to small at the back of the head, will you be GS it out a little? It might just be the camera angle.
You could give him a fur centre band around his cap to help tie him in a little more with the First born look, but otherwise love this conversion wish I had thought of it myself as I want one now.
Really great job and looking forward to the Astropath conversion  .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 11:47:48
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Commissar Update
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Infiltrating Naga
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Interesting, even moreso considering that the model has been lying on my table for a while now and apart from considering to bring it back, because it's a terrible cast, I'm thinking about pimping it into the 41st millenium. You made some interesting decisions, by taking away the hat, but leaving the face (obviously a good choice for a commissar) and removing the detail on the pants (will you resculpt them?).
The gun looks good, but did you consider changing the hammer? It's ok, but maybe a bit too "flintlocky".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 12:09:35
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Commissar Update
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Executing Exarch
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your commissar looks good. he looks like he needs a power sword or bionics. something like that. banblade hat is all kinds of win cant wait to see more man.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 13:36:04
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Commissar Update
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Thanks for all of your comments! Viktor von Domm wrote:  here it is...even with a comparrision of either IG or SM plasma gun...
I really like the ones on the left! Do you think it's be too bulky for an IG conversion? It might be hard to get it close to the body. lone dirty dog wrote:I like the look of the witch hunter great idea, plus removing all that detail has worked wonders, as Vik had mentioned a little GS work might help to blend the mag better. I like the idea of the commissar hat although it looks a little to small at the back of the head, will you be GS it out a little? It might just be the camera angle. You could give him a fur centre band around his cap to help tie him in a little more with the First born look, but otherwise love this conversion wish I had thought of it myself as I want one now. Really great job and looking forward to the Astropath conversion  .
Thanks for the compliments! (though I wouldn't say I removed all the detail  ) As for the hat, what you're seeing is his ear sticking out I think. The hat is a pretty good match actually. I don't know about the fur strip. He already blends in a lot, which doesn't go so great with the fluff (as commissars are always from a different planet than the unit they're attached to). Keep your eye out for the astropath Baiyuan wrote:Interesting, even moreso considering that the model has been lying on my table for a while now and apart from considering to bring it back, because it's a terrible cast, I'm thinking about pimping it into the 41st millenium. You made some interesting decisions, by taking away the hat, but leaving the face (obviously a good choice for a commissar) and removing the detail on the pants (will you resculpt them?). The gun looks good, but did you consider changing the hammer? It's ok, but maybe a bit too "flintlocky".
I'd say take him back. I got a little too far into my project before taking a really good look, and now I'm regretting it. Thanks for the compliments though, Baiyuan. I appreciate it greatly, especially from you! One upside to finecast: softer material. It made hat removal possible whilst saving the face. I thought he had the perfect commissar look: dangerous and calm. He kind of reminds me of Sam Elliot in Tombstone.  As for the legs, I'm going to try to get away with just resculping a bit around the knee and patching the holes higher up. We'll see how it goes. Good catch on the hammer of the pistol. It's quite similar to the Firstborn sergeant's which, point of fact, doesn't have a hammer. It's days are numbered. alabamaheretic wrote:your commissar looks good. he looks like he needs a power sword or bionics. something like that. banblade hat is all kinds of win cant wait to see more man.
"All kinds of win" I like that!  I agree on the "powersword or bionics" comment. I've been trying to figure out how to add one more "grimdark" feature, but I'm not sure what it would be. I'd like to leave the patch, so bionic eye is out (which is good, because that would be a tough area to resculpt). I thought about a sword, but the only place it would really fit would be his back (and it would be sheathed, so it would be hard to distinguish from a regular sword). Maybe a Vostroyan-esque rebreather pack on his back? Any other ideas out there? Thanks for looking!
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The 104th Vostroyan Mechanized
Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 17:30:53
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Commissar Update
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
where am I? *looks around* Well i'm...errr...I...I...don't know!
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I think if you remove some of the outside holster and stick it on the side, with GS as all have said, it'll look more like it's meant to fit, and less like it's a conversion...it's difficult because a bolt pistol is a blunt weapon while that pistol is very streamlined.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 18:46:49
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Commissar Update
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Love the witch hunter conversion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 19:41:59
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Commissar Update
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Imperial Monkey wrote:I think if you remove some of the outside holster and stick it on the side, with GS as all have said, it'll look more like it's meant to fit, and less like it's a conversion...it's difficult because a bolt pistol is a blunt weapon while that pistol is very streamlined.
Yeah, I had thought about shortening the overall length to get it closer to standard bolt pistol proportions. What do you guys think?
VikingScott wrote:Love the witch hunter conversion.
Thanks, Scott the Viking!
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The 104th Vostroyan Mechanized
Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
nerdfest09: Rawson speaks the truth! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 21:23:36
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Commissar Update
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Dont mess with the face  you could add some kind of digital com to his gloved hand to 40k up, I would not mess to much with the pistol myself unless you are really sure it is what you want.
I think you might be right about the hat know looking at it again, it is the angle and light that threw it off a bit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 21:24:23
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Astropath Update
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Been a while since I had a two-update-day
Here's what I did this evening: the astropath has hands! I was going for the creepy, decrepit look.
I'd like to get the left hand a bit more angle, but that will have to wait until later, since I'm going to bed...
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The 104th Vostroyan Mechanized
Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
nerdfest09: Rawson speaks the truth! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 21:31:44
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Astropath Update
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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hmmm... should i make a test for you? by the way...the plasma guns i have are all orky ones... from different editions... i looked them up on various ebay auctions... ebay GB has quite a few of them... so you might be lucky to get them...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 21:37:31
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Astropath Update
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Like the Astropath looks creepy for sure like a school janitor LOL what head are you going to use in it then ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 21:40:31
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Astropath Update
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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wow that wraith looks creepy... really it does! i think you are onto something very good there!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 23:18:00
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Astropath Update
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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^ agreed
btw so glad you didnt do a baiyan relese on that WH, i would have had to kill you (metaphoricaly with a knife of course  ) cause he looks really cool, i might have to copy this at some point
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"Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/19 00:15:10
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Astropath Update
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Rawson wrote:Been a while since I had a two-update-day
Here's what I did this evening: the astropath has hands! I was going for the creepy, decrepit look.
I'd like to get the left hand a bit more angle, but that will have to wait until later, since I'm going to bed...
Reminds me of the Emperor from Star Wars
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/19 07:49:44
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Astropath Update
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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^that!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/19 09:29:34
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Astropath Update
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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You know that was bugging me when I looked at it as to why it seemed so familiar
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 23:57:17
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Astropath Update
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Rawson...you gotta check out what Flinty is doing with a Valkryie kit here- http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/390/336989.page#4147699
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It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
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"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/21 10:35:20
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Astropath Update
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Dave stop adding links I have not enough time to follow all these people  that thread has all kinds of fantastic in it …….. as does your's Rawson's
After all I want to build that witch hunter character like your's as it looks to dam good not to.  SO STOLEN
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/21 20:23:24
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Astropath Update
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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lone dirty dog wrote:Like the Astropath looks creepy for sure like a school janitor LOL what head are you going to use in it then ?
I was actually debating no head, just black nothingness in the hood. I'd probably have to add some more robes on the front to make it work, but what do you guys think?
Viktor von Domm wrote:wow that wraith looks creepy... really it does! i think you are onto something very good there!!!
Thank you, sir!
Rogue Wolves wrote:^ agreed
btw so glad you didnt do a baiyan relese on that WH, i would have had to kill you (metaphoricaly with a knife of course  ) cause he looks really cool, i might have to copy this at some point
...  I'm not sure if I'm flattered or creeped out...
Regnak wrote:Reminds me of the Emperor from Star Wars
 Didn't notice that until you brought it up!
Trust me, it's been in my subscribed threads for a while now
lone dirty dog wrote:Dave stop adding links I have not enough time to follow all these people  that thread has all kinds of fantastic in it …….. as does your's Rawson's
After all I want to build that witch hunter character like your's as it looks to dam good not to.  SO STOLEN
At least you had the decency to blush
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The 104th Vostroyan Mechanized
Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/21 20:30:10
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Astropath Update
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i think...the no head option is a bit too far for vostroyans...in my book... a face is needed for this army... maybe you could take one of those constipated looking catchan heads.... that would add a bit of comic releave and charisma to that model...also the more robes idea i think is also a must...!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/21 22:54:01
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Astropath Update
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Viktor von Domm wrote:i think...the no head option is a bit too far for vostroyans...in my book... a face is needed for this army... maybe you could take one of those constipated looking catchan heads.... that would add a bit of comic releave and charisma to that model...also the more robes idea i think is also a must...!
Yes, I agree with Vik on this one a face is needed although comic relief is not the way I would go something old and serious looking .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/21 23:01:46
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: 4/18 Astropath Update
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like where this astroptah is heading, also the witch finder is great. looking forward to seeing that get the chop lol. ;-)
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