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Desert Dave wrote:
Theyve already covered Brits, French and Germans in Death Fields. Wonder who this is.

Kind of looks like the “Marcher” Americans. I think they are making the plastics for that game.

It's a Grognard.

It's very clearly a Grognard, but why are they making another Grognard infantry set? Also, there seem to be a couple of tiny, pointless, changes to the design; some awkward plates on the front of the ankles, and an extra layer of shoulder-pad (which seems unlikely to show in plastic).

Could be Grognard Heavy infantry given it's got a bunch more armour

Could it be an update to older grognard set? The current one is held back a bit by the fact there are only three static poses.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Could be Grognard Heavy infantry given it's got a bunch more armour

It's only a tiny bit more than the base ones. They already have the breastplate, knee-pads, and shoulder pads. This one just adds a couple of tiny pieces you would barely notice. The weapon looks exactly the same too.
At a guess, this is a re-cut to bring their most popular kit up to a slightly higher standard, offering more poses, etc.

I'm cool with more grognards....they make up a good portion of my guard regular infantry.

saw these posted on the Guards of Traitor's toll facebook page

Puddle bases, no sale

6 bodies on the sprue, I dont see a torso for the legs so guessing the cape has a torso attached to it.

And finally a combat goose... I will be getting this set. Wonder how many sprues come to a box. will it be 18 or 24 to a box?

Edit: yeah. there is a picture of the cape body, i added to the post above.

Edit: Puddle bases are annoying, but not a deal breaker for me. I use my rotary tool to saw them off.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Puddle bases, no sale

Why do people still use those? They are such a pain to remove.

It's annoying that all the gates are on the sides of the helmets, that you'd need to file down and make nice and smooth, instead of on the necks like god intended. I like the miniatures though.

Billicus wrote:
It's annoying that all the gates are on the sides of the helmets, that you'd need to file down and make nice and smooth, instead of on the necks like god intended. I like the miniatures though.

Yeah, you would think that the pieces could be rotated before the tooling was finalized.

Billicus wrote:
It's annoying that all the gates are on the sides of the helmets, that you'd need to file down and make nice and smooth, instead of on the necks like god intended. I like the miniatures though.

Umm ... considerably less enthused now. Let's see how they tool the civilians. If I choose to buy this game, I've plenty of minis other than civilians that I can use, and I like the looks of the WGA Foot Sergeants better any way.

Speaking of questionable tooling decisions, I bought Fantasy Warriors by Grenadier Miniatures back in 1990. This was their attempt to compete with WHFB, which failed. The dwarves and orcs included have the ingate on the small of the back instead of the base. So you had to glue the included shield over the ingate instead of placing it on the left arm where the user could benefit.

I think these look great and worth the effort of gate cleanup & puddle-base removal.

Strangely the only model I would use for this is the goose... I have the strange urge to male an AdMech goose as an objective marker.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Puddle bases, no sale

I have a similar feeling.



And now I'm irked since this image seems to show normal bases while they clearly have puddles.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Puddle bases, no sale

I have a similar feeling.



And now I'm irked since this image seems to show normal bases while they clearly have puddles.

On a second glance, is looks like the built up around the puddle. But then again I'm ambivalent about puddles so ymmv.

 Smokestack wrote:
saw these posted on the Guards of Traitor's toll facebook page

I am so excited for this game and these models.

I was hyped for this kit, and puddle bases have seriously dampened my enthusiasm. Hate removing them from Frostgrave and Oathmark minis, and if this kit has the same issue, what makes it better than those?

These seem closer to Frostgrave than Oathmark, as far as being more individually customizable. It gives more of a Mordheim mercenaries feel than a regiment. That scratches an itch for me. I love that there's different body types too.

It's no so much of being better than another comparable kit but I'm always happy for more options.

Yeah, I won't be buying these. I was on the fence given their diminutive size, but puddle bases kill the deal for me.

For those who hate puddle bases and don't like messing with sculpting filler....
Use the lipped bases that WGA sells or a similar base with depression. Then scoop in cement (I use "Sand Mix" cement from the hardware store) to level and then dropper on a bit of water. You can even use superglue if you want even faster results. Simply add more cement if it settles too much.

The problem with puddle bases is I can't use them with my existing textured bases.

Naw I paid good money for these texture rollers.

I make liberal use of custom textured bases, so them puddles gotta go:



At least the plastic is easier to remove than the metal puddle bases on Midlam's models (or the awful broccoli bases on older metal Reaper models).

(yeah, I know I'm in the minority here; just sayin' plastic puddle bases aren't a dealbreaker if I like the models)

 KidCthulhu wrote:
(yeah, I know I'm in the minority here; just sayin' plastic puddle bases aren't a dealbreaker if I like the models)

Oh, sure, if the model is good enough I'm willing to put in a lot of work. The alien warriors from AGDitC have their feet sculpted as part of their bases, but I wanted them on some other bases to fit with some existing models. So I spent hours filing the damn things paper thin so they would just fit on top of the other bases.
If these were the only way to get models I really wanted, I'd put up with the effort of trimming them, as I have with other ones. But if there are several ways to get a certain style of model and one of them is heroic scale and has no puddle bases, that's the one I will go for. So their design decisions pushed the kit from the one I would absolutely use as soon as I wanted generic fantasy humans, to one choice among several.
I just find it really weird that nobody seems to like puddle bases (I've literally never seen a single person saying they prefer them) but multiple manufacturers insist on doing them. They even waste (a miniscule amount) of space and plastic, so they are paying extra to (as far as I can tell) make their product less appealing.

Does the company produce their own bases? If not, I can see why they male puddle bases. This way they can say that the model is complete.

They make a load of bases, and they also sold base-less models before they sold bases, so no excuse there.

 Perfect Organism wrote:
They make a load of bases, and they also sold base-less models before they sold bases, so no excuse there.

Then I got nuthin'.