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**Daston**

These new models are fantastic! Was going to use the robots as sentinels as soon as I saw the test moulds. Will be picking up 3 of them as soon as the rest of my IG are painted up.

**Yodhrin**

Bad news chaps, I emailed FW to ask about experimental rules for fielding the HH Mechanicum units in 40K, and they currently have no plans to make them playable outside the HH rules :(

**gianlucafiorentini123**

Am I the only one who wishes FW would put out some bad models every once in a while just to give my bank account a break.

**Angry Ron**

Lovely models, particularly like the 'inhuman' look of the magos, fits admech perfectly. Shame about the no regular 40k support though. Suppose thats what counts-as/house rules are for

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Also, the robot looks like it can actually walk, unlike some other upcoming models *ahem*

**Crimson**

Yodhrin wrote:
Bad news chaps, I emailed FW to ask about experimental rules for fielding the HH Mechanicum units in 40K, and they currently have no plans to make them playable outside the HH rules :(

That's just stupid. These things certainly exist in 40th millennium as well, so why not give them rules? I really like the models but I don't play HH. Apparently FW doesn't want to sell these.

**Kanluwen**

Crimson wrote:
Yodhrin wrote:
Bad news chaps, I emailed FW to ask about experimental rules for fielding the HH Mechanicum units in 40K, and they currently have no plans to make them playable outside the HH rules :(

That's just stupid. These things certainly exist in 40th millennium as well, so why not give them rules? I really like the models but I don't play HH. Apparently FW doesn't want to sell these.

Because they do not necessarily exist in the 40th millennium as well.

**prowla**

I love that little skull brain of the Castellax. I thought they looked like a bit meh, but that brilliant little detail saves the day.

**Yodhrin**

Kanluwen wrote:
Crimson wrote:
Yodhrin wrote:
Bad news chaps, I emailed FW to ask about experimental rules for fielding the HH Mechanicum units in 40K, and they currently have no plans to make them playable outside the HH rules :(

That's just stupid. These things certainly exist in 40th millennium as well, so why not give them rules? I really like the models but I don't play HH. Apparently FW doesn't want to sell these.

Because they do not necessarily exist in the 40th millennium as well.

They do though. They're certainly not common, I could see Battle Automata being limited to a 0-1 Elite or Heavy choice for Guard or Marines, but they're about the place somewhere, as are mad looking over-mechanised Techpriests wielding bizarre and horrifying weapons from the Dark Age of Technology.

I mean, it's not a total disaster if they don't bring out 40K rules, a Contemptor with Heavy Bolters, Fist, and Stormbolter will do if there's nothing official(with a techpriest modelled on the base to mollify my fluff sensibilities of course, since Robots get Mindlocked if they wander about alone), it'd just be nice to finally see some proper Mechanicus units in 40K.

**kronk**

Yodhrin wrote:
Bad news chaps, I emailed FW to ask about experimental rules for fielding the HH Mechanicum units in 40K, and they currently have no plans to make them playable outside the HH rules :(

Meh. Not a deal breaker. The 30k HH army lists aren't meant to be played against 40k army lists per their interviews in the past with Alan Blighe, et al. My group will play with them regardless of that statement and irregardless of what other groups do...

**Nut's Chiropractor**

Oooh, aren't these pretty. I do like how the Admech tech seem to have developed their own aesthetic as opposed to Imperial Guard with more cables. They've got a nice archaic feel to them whilst still capturing the crazed, chaotic nature of the Adeptus Mechanicus. Splendid!

**warboss**

I don't see the interest frankly in either of the units but then again I'm not much of an AdMech fan. The automata reminds me too much of Warmachine (not a fan of steampunk) and the Magos is just a mess of bits with a cowl. To each his own I guess...

**Kroothawk**

anonymous source over at faeit212 wrote:Hello,
just a short note from Cologne's GamesDay, found a tank at the ForgeWorld-booth that didn't appear before (afaik), attached a pic of it.

Also, word was that the Iron Hands Contemptor (model already shown on GD Memphis) would be released soon, estimatedly around GamesDay UK.

**Perfect Organism**

Deimos pattern Vindicator? Nice.

**Kroothawk**

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?aId=30900004a&%3b_requestid=2374033&_requestid=343234

GW Website on upcoming UK Games Day wrote:Forge World – Darren's Tau and Blake's Scenery

Over in Forge World, Darren Parrwood has joined the Tau's Third Sphere of Expansion and has been seen working on a new Tau kit. The Greater Good has never looked so good! Meanwhile, Forge World's scenery extraordinaire, Blake Spence, has been hard at work on more new magnificently detailed scenery tiles to help really enhance your battlefields.

You will be able to meet both Darren and Blake at this year's Games Day and talk to them at length about these and some of the other projects they have worked on.

Here old stuff from FW Open Day in April, that might give a hint:
http://advancedtautactica.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19686&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=0

Warhound over at ATT wrote:Well, I say rumours... but these are gospel, as I spoke with Daren Parwood (XV9 sculpting fame) and Alan Bligh... and had the below book in my hands...!

Daren has been given the go-ahead to make another suit!.. I spoke with him some 9 months about some ideas that he has had, to make a suit inbetween the XV-25 and XV-8 sizing... at the time we discussed having a smaller missile laden guy... but this has now been dealt with by the new releases... so, in league with Alan Bligh, they are knocking around the following ideas:

Hyper stealth capability... bascially able to drop in, up front all alone, and be able to get out again.. sort of a 'minime' of the XV-9 MO....
Possible 'big gun'... Daren not sure on whether it will be Ion... or some sort of Ongar Gauntlet type affair...

To be released: unknown, but Daren has already started the sculpt;-)

More importantly.. I was able to read the Taros campaign "redux"... bascially, they has one of only 3 copies in existence at the event, a final copy ready for the printers... As the taros campaign came out before the Apocalypes launch and also, with 6th ed and now the new codex.. they have updated ALL units to be inline with the new release....

key notes that I can remember:

Tetras: H2 TL ml, base cost 35, but with Dpod, comes in at ##edit## just under the old points... so a little nerf on the shots there...
XV-9 updated! Full suite of optional upgrades from the codex, including the skyfire ability!!!.. Shas O really- stand alone character that cant join other units at all!!

Full tightening on all the XV-8 AND 9 suits varients... new points, plus 6th ed rules....

Clarifications on all the marker posts and sentries etc.....

Bit of a pain to rebuy the book- but worth it in the end!.. also Talima mentioned that they have retrofitted some fluff to fit with the new canon....
ETA- 2 months....

I hope that this helps some folks out..

cheers

Warhound
(...)

p.s...OH!!... and (as I was showing Daren the LTD ed of the codex- he hadnt had the chance to see any of it!!!)... we discussed the idea of cosmetic additions to kits that he could do... he was very keen to look at Riptide and other suit 'body panel' swaps... additions etc....

No firm ideas (at all!).. but he will be looking at some new stuff.....

**Melcavuk**

Battle Automata are now available to order in Maniples for aslight saving:

£162 for 5 isnt awful

**Marthike**

I want to ask is this a replacement for the. IA apocalpse 2nd edition?

Whats gonna happen to IA Apocalypse 2? is that now outdated too.

Bit confused.

**PaperworkNinja**

The new Castellax is beautiful, but putting the beakie's shoulder pads on the wrong sides made me do a doubletake.

I also need to bite the bullet and buy ten of the FW Mk VI Marines and a whole bunch of jump packs. Turning them into an assault squad would complete the infantry contingent of my Marine detachment. (The rest of my models are Mk VI, so I need them for aesthetic completeness.)

**Userarm**

Marthike you would use the most up to date rules for your units so check the index of the GW and IA Apoc Books that have been released since the middle of July and any units that you have that are in them you would use the new rules, anything you have that is not in them you would use the last rules for in IA:A2nd if that was the most recent.

**Nut's Chiropractor**

Melcavuk wrote:
Battle Automata are now available to order in Maniples for aslight saving:

£162 for 5 isnt awful

At least you save something,..

Games Workshop, I'm looking at you!

**kronk**

I'm at GenCon now. The new Tesseract ark thingy is freaking awesome!

Also, I have the 3 event only FW items and the FW Apocalypse book.

Back to gaming and to find Cy and Alfndrate!

**gianlucafiorentini123**

Just saw this about GD

The Horus Heresy rages ever-onwards over at Forge World and, hot on the heels of the Primarchs Angron and Fulgrim, Simon Egan will be unveiling the third in this series of mighty warriors of legend at UK Games Day 2013! Simon wouldn't be drawn on the details, so you'll just have to go to Games Day to see it in person (and possibly even add one to your collection!).
Elsewhere in Forge World's design team, Keith Robertson has been working hard on a brand new unit of Death Guard which you will be able to see for the very first time at Games Day.

Hope they do a build up to it like last year showing some of the new stuff each day so I can plan what to buy.

**Bobthehero**

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/LEGION_SICARAN_BATTLE_TANK.html

One of the most advanced armoured units in the arsenal of the Great Crusade, the Sicaran Battle Tank was the exclusive province of the Space Marine Legions. The Sicaran utilises component technologies from various STC patterns to create a high-speed ‘destroyer’ tank to complement the more commonplace Predator and Land Raider designs.

The primary armament of the main Sicaran variant is the sophisticated Herakles pattern accelerator autocannon, a superior rapid-firing and highly accurate weapon. It fires shells at far higher velocities than a standard autocannon, enabling it to successfully track and engage swift moving targets and pinpoint vulnerabilities in enemy armour with lethal precision.

The Sicaran Battle Tank, designed by Phil Stutcinskas, is a complete resin kit. This model is available to pre-order now and will be despatched from Friday 30th August.The rules for this model can be found in a forthcoming Horus Heresy Book.

I love the look of it

**THE_DUDE**

Yeah, that tank is awesome. Loving almost all these Horus Heresy models.

**c0j1r0**

I have to tell myself daily not to start my HH until I finish my other two armies. But it's so hard. I love FW's models.

**Peredyne**

I fell in love with the SoH Reaver squad when they showed it a few weeks back. Now I want to get a couple of packs of them for use as my Chosen in my SoH CSM force.

**gianlucafiorentini123**

Loved the new tank since I first saw it but £72 is too much for me.

**Yodhrin**

Why hallo thar man-portable Volkite Culverins, you are going to look lovely on my AdMech Praetorians.

Man, I am going to be so humped financially at the end of September. Magos Dominus, one(to begin with) Castellax, a set of Culverins, Ferrus Mannus, HH:Massacre...and that's just what we know is coming, I hate to think of all the stuff FW are going to reveal between now and when the new book goes on sale.

**Ratius**

Oh my the Sicarian....

**PaperworkNinja**

The Sicaran looks like something I want to buy and build. I also want to see an Adeptus Mechanicus version of Top Gear put it through its paces as it reminds me of a sports car.

**Vaktathi**

I need a Sicaran or three

Especially in such lovely Iron Warrior's colors

Crimson wrote:
Yodhrin wrote:
Bad news chaps, I emailed FW to ask about experimental rules for fielding the HH Mechanicum units in 40K, and they currently have no plans to make them playable outside the HH rules :(

That's just stupid. These things certainly exist in 40th millennium as well, so why not give them rules?

I think their point is, not all of it does exist in the current 40k timeline anymore. The Heresy was a different era for a reason and so much of what once was is no longer. From that perspective, I can dig it.

I really like the models but I don't play HH. Apparently FW doesn't want to sell these.

this would be my primary issue with it, I'd love to try running more of these in normal games, though i can understand where they are coming from