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Like an idiot I managed to miss the word "Rapier" from that sentence.

A pair of scale 5 titans should easily fit on a single smaller sprue (comparable with the Necromunda outcasts kit). It also dawned on me that Rapiers would be the ideal platform for the paired Dire Wolf arm weapons, giving us more options for both classes. Might be the reason those are magnetised...
   
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 xttz wrote:
Like an idiot I managed to miss the word "Rapier" from that sentence.

A pair of scale 5 titans should easily fit on a single smaller sprue (comparable with the Necromunda outcasts kit). It also dawned on me that Rapiers would be the ideal platform for the paired Dire Wolf arm weapons, giving us more options for both classes. Might be the reason those are magnetised...


Rapier would be cool too, it's just that I feel like the hound really is the floor in terms of titans stats. Like they could go weaker on shields maybe, start at 4+, maybe weaker armour but the hound is basically 10-11, not much higher than knights. The dire wolf fits in pretty well, even if it's a bit lacking in options. Just not sure how the rapier would fit, unless like the dire wolf they had some sort of infiltrate or deep strike or outflank mechanic built right in. But ya, scale 7 or 5 are both welcome if they're well conceived. Plastic is preferable though, and weapon options on sprue.

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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Knowing GW, in a few months we will see a new big box set with like 2 reavers, 2 war hounds, some knights, and 2 new rapier scouts that will be box locked for a while


Its possible, but not so sure on them box-locking as they've not done that with Titanicus so far. But I guess there is a first time for everything...




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As for Defense of Kado, nothing says we won't see it at some point in the future. They'll start with books again at some point...


There was also mention of renegade knight banners covered in a future expansion.

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I wonder if the Dire wolf is based on the rapier frame. Give it an extra joint in the legs and replace the reaver arm mount on the back with a warhound scale mount (also a way to make a few more reaver carapace guns in plastic) and a couple other ardex gun arms. Then it would not only tie into the Dire Wolf but also could be the predecessor to the Slaaneshi Subjugator titan.

Another plastic kit option would be a "plain" Warbringer titan, removing the big warlord carapace gun and replacing it with a smaller version, maybe another place for a neutron laser?


Rules-wise, I could maybe see a use for redoing the maniples somewhat- loosening a bunch of the early ones up to allow for dire wolves, warbringers, warmasters to fit in place of just warhounds, reavers and warlords.

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If the Rapier is smaller than the Warhound, of which the Direwolf is a heavier variant, then I doubt it.

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The Dire Wolf seems like a pretty good fit for the Subjugator structure already, while a lighter scout titan with paired arm weapons could be the basis of the Questor:

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SamusDrake wrote:
If the Rapier is smaller than the Warhound, of which the Direwolf is a heavier variant, then I doubt it.


Is the rapier smaller? All I remember it being called is lighter than the warhound.

Good point on the Questor, I forgot about that one. It would fit in with a titan mounting some added arms off the dire wolf, plus maybe a few point defense mauler bolters or lascannons. If they ever remaster the warhound and reaver molds in 28mm, I hope they add a few point defense mounts like the Warlord and Warbringer have.
   
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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
If the Rapier is smaller than the Warhound, of which the Direwolf is a heavier variant, then I doubt it.


Is the rapier smaller? All I remember it being called is lighter than the warhound.

Good point on the Questor, I forgot about that one. It would fit in with a titan mounting some added arms off the dire wolf, plus maybe a few point defense mauler bolters or lascannons. If they ever remaster the warhound and reaver molds in 28mm, I hope they add a few point defense mounts like the Warlord and Warbringer have.


Assuming it indeed ends up occuyping scale 5 it'd be fair to assume its closer to the acastus in size, whether or not that means it'd be on 60 or an 80mm tho is hard to tell, could impact the arc counters.

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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Knowing GW, in a few months we will see a new big box set with like 2 reavers, 2 war hounds, some knights, and 2 new rapier scouts that will be box locked for a while


In previous holiday seasons they've come out with combo boxed sets that have been generally good value.

Wouldn't be surprised to see that again this year.
   
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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
If the Rapier is smaller than the Warhound, of which the Direwolf is a heavier variant, then I doubt it.


Is the rapier smaller? All I remember it being called is lighter than the warhound.


I might be getting details muddled as there was said to be a scout titan below the warhound.

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SamusDrake wrote:
 MajorWesJanson wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
If the Rapier is smaller than the Warhound, of which the Direwolf is a heavier variant, then I doubt it.


Is the rapier smaller? All I remember it being called is lighter than the warhound.


I might be getting details muddled as there was said to be a scout titan below the warhound.


They've mentioned it in the books, just never too specific about it.

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They're briefly mentioned in Titandeath but with minimal details.

"The machine was a Rapier class scout, a lighter, swifter machine than a Warhound"
   
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Given that the Warhound is rather gun'n'harpoon happy, I'd take a shot in the dark that the rapier would use it's speed to close in quickly with a nasty melee weapon. Possibly a Cerastus on steroids?

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SamusDrake wrote:
Given that the Warhound is rather gun'n'harpoon happy, I'd take a shot in the dark that the rapier would use it's speed to close in quickly with a nasty melee weapon. Possibly a Cerastus on steroids?


It has to justify itself, only problem is how to define it between a hound and acastus and still have it make sense or feel valid. The concern is, the hound really does seem like the "floor" in terms of titan stats and heat/shield/armour pips. You might be able to get away with fewer armour pips for a rapier, but the hound doesn't exactly have a robust reactor so hard to go lower there, you could lower the save value of the voids but hard to give them fewer. That might be able to be mitigated by being able to squadron up but that really seems more like hound's thing. Fast is def in the cards, but again the gulf between a hound and even the stabby knights is basically same speed once boosted, so if its like 10/14 its already leavin the knights in the dust. Close combat would be cool, but again outshining the stabby knights likely if so. Not that that is a problem mind u, i think the game works better without knights most of the time.

I think what would be cool is if the rapier was more about disruption and sneaky stuff than maybe direct engagement, If it can justify itself well like the dire wolf I'll be happy.

Excited to finally try the dire wolf and the volkite change.

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Has anyone in the US had their Dire Wolf pre-order ship yet?

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I have not seen mine ship yet. Crossing fingers the quality is good on these.
   
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axotl wrote:
I have not seen mine ship yet. Crossing fingers the quality is good on these.


I expected delays after my last FW order experience. I'm crossing my fingers that it ships this week, but I'm not counting on it either. *shrug*

It does occur to me that people jumping into HH and buying FW resin may not be so patient with multi-week shipping delays.

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 gorgon wrote:
axotl wrote:
I have not seen mine ship yet. Crossing fingers the quality is good on these.


I expected delays after my last FW order experience. I'm crossing my fingers that it ships this week, but I'm not counting on it either. *shrug*

It does occur to me that people jumping into HH and buying FW resin may not be so patient with multi-week shipping delays.


True, I would also consider that fw perhaps prioritizing hh stuff to be related to the delay in shipping dire wolves. It is getting tiring that they can get them to influencers ahead of schedule but can't even pretend to be shipping real stock for pre-orders.

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Not saying anything but...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/02/horus-heresy-history-the-age-of-darkness-has-been-inspiring-artists-for-decades/

** You can also see an early Titan stalking in the background. Is that a Warmaster? A Warlord? Or something else entirely?


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I don't see that at all, did they edit it? The two-star note says "** Succeeded since by a digital card game, Horus Heresy: Legions." Theres no mention of the word "titan" on the page whatsoever.

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chaos0xomega wrote:
I don't see that at all, did they edit it? The two-star note says "** Succeeded since by a digital card game, Horus Heresy: Legions." Theres no mention of the word "titan" on the page whatsoever.


Not only that, the art that he was refering to has disappeared. Weird
   
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I dont suppose anyone saved a copy or grabbed a screenshot before it disappeared?

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Yes, it was there - I copied and pasted the quote as it was - and they've removed it.

The image was at the top of the article. Best description was an old art from around 1988 to early 90s, Beakies fighting in the bottom foreground, a super large fortress( I mistook it for a super-large ork gargant at first ) in the background(rising to the top of the image) and what appeared to be similar to the really old warmaster design on the right-hand side of the picture.


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I saw it. Personally I think the removal was more about being too provocative with no actual payoff rather than revealing too much.


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Update: Looks like my Dire Wolf preorder is on the way. Huzzah. Hopefully all the other NA preorderers get theirs dispatched soon.

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 gorgon wrote:
Update: Looks like my Dire Wolf preorder is on the way. Huzzah. Hopefully all the other NA preorderers get theirs dispatched soon.


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