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 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
They can get updated models at any time.

I'd rather see new Kill teams than Kill Team being continually foisted off as a way to update old models.

But KT is great for both. You could have new Tau unit which is a new/old/only mentioned in fluff auxiliary unit.

Vespid aren't that.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
They can get updated models at any time.

I'd rather see new Kill teams than Kill Team being continually foisted off as a way to update old models.

But KT is great for both. You could have new Tau unit which is a new/old/only mentioned in fluff auxiliary unit.

Vespid aren't that.

They are both new KT team and old Tau unit.

Vespids could lend really well to a unique team of specialists. they're a perfect fit for KT

 Shadow Walker wrote:

They are both new KT team and old Tau unit.

Tau don't need another bespoke Kill Team, especially one that is traditionally an auxiliary unit known for providing a singular troop type.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

They are both new KT team and old Tau unit.

Tau don't need another bespoke Kill Team, especially one that is traditionally an auxiliary unit known for providing a singular troop type.

Maybe they will work like Aspect Warriors = mixed unit with other Tau ones? Or they will introduce previously unknown Vespid side, with more specialised sub-species?

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

They are both new KT team and old Tau unit.

Tau don't need another bespoke Kill Team, especially one that is traditionally an auxiliary unit known for providing a singular troop type.

Maybe they will work like Aspect Warriors = mixed unit with other Tau ones? Or they will introduce previously unknown Vespid side, with more specialised sub-species?

Or we just don't do anything with them, and instead start using KT as a way to add more Guard Regiments.

Seems like a win.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

They are both new KT team and old Tau unit.

Tau don't need another bespoke Kill Team, especially one that is traditionally an auxiliary unit known for providing a singular troop type.

Maybe they will work like Aspect Warriors = mixed unit with other Tau ones? Or they will introduce previously unknown Vespid side, with more specialised sub-species?

Or we just don't do anything with them, and instead start using KT as a way to add more Guard Regiments.

Seems like a win.

Just to quote you your own response:

 Kanluwen wrote:
They can get updated models at any time.

I'd rather see new Kill teams than Kill Team being continually foisted off as a way to update old models.

Which is fine. The point is that Vespid would be a waste of a Kill Team slot. We just had a whole season wasted on codex gap-filling.

If we need Tau gap-filling to be the order of the day?

Firesight Marksman and Sniper Drones plus a Fire Warrior KT.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

They are both new KT team and old Tau unit.

Tau don't need another bespoke Kill Team, especially one that is traditionally an auxiliary unit known for providing a singular troop type.

Maybe they will work like Aspect Warriors = mixed unit with other Tau ones? Or they will introduce previously unknown Vespid side, with more specialised sub-species?

Or we just don't do anything with them, and instead start using KT as a way to add more Guard Regiments.

Seems like a win.

oh so the problem isn't with old things being updated, it's that your army isn't being pandered to. got it

Kanluwen wrote:Which is fine. The point is that Vespid would be a waste of a Kill Team slot.

Why?

If we need Tau gap-filling to be the order of the day?

Firesight Marksman and Sniper Drones plus a Fire Warrior KT.

Why those, and not Vespid? We do we need a Firesight Marksman, Sniper Drone and Fire Warrior Kill Team, as opposed to a Vespid one?

Kanluwen wrote:traditionally an auxiliary unit known for providing a singular troop type.

And this is how KT could possibly breathe some new life into an otherwise fairly neglected unit, and giving it some flavour in a game mode that's great at providing that bespoke flavour.

We could see some really cool new niches in the Vespid culture shown off in these models.

All this chatter about a "wasted Kill Team slot" but not one mention about the Beastmen Kill Team ?

Seriously, IMO, I find that to be a bigger waste than possibly exploring Vespid with new plastic models. Frankly, I think Beastmen in 40K is anachronistic and uninspired. They were dragged in from Fantasy decades ago when 40K was Rogue Trader and GW needed filler models. I'd much rather have new aliens.

Again, just my opinion. At this point I think Kill Team offers a LOT of team options and whatever else we get is gravy.

As an aside, I also play 40K RPGs and I don't even bother with Beastmen in those settings. My personal reference, opinion, dislike and no different than someone not wanting Vespid.

How about we take it to a thread of its own and let this thread rest until actual N&R pop up again, alrighty?

Thread up.

 Myrthe wrote:
All this chatter about a "wasted Kill Team slot" but not one mention about the Beastmen Kill Team ?

Seriously, IMO, I find that to be a bigger waste than possibly exploring Vespid with new plastic models. Frankly, I think Beastmen in 40K is anachronistic and uninspired. They were dragged in from Fantasy decades ago when 40K was Rogue Trader and GW needed filler models. I'd much rather have new aliens.

I think the only problem with the beastman kill team was that they didn’t try to match the style of the beastmen from Blackstone Fortress or that one character from Necromunda. They should have given them pants and flak armor and pistols. Instead, they just look like someone did a lazy job converting fantasy monsters into 40K.

But I’m probably in the minority who think beastmen ought to be allowed in Imperial Guard armies. Not all mutations have to be a result of chaos.

moving this here
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/07/26/chalnath-dispatches-blade-in-the-dark/

our honoured auxiliaries

we're definitely getting vespids

Good grief that was just piss poor. Surely they can find someone with a hint of talent to write these little short stories. I've read better fan fiction.

The previous one with the vague hints and redacted overload felt tedious. So did this. Might be a platform for untested writers since it won't make GW any money directly?

 Geifer wrote:
The previous one with the vague hints and redacted overload felt tedious. So did this. Might be a platform for untested writers since it won't make GW any money directly?

I would not be shocked if it's material from a War Zone book that didn't happen.

S1 of KT had Octarius, Chalnath, and the Nachmund Gauntlet/Vigilus.
Octarius and Vigilus both had warzone books accompany them.

It's not a story, it's a tease. There's no plot or character development, only the obscure hints at something to come next, no better than an MCU post-credits scene.

So do you think we'll have the reveal this Monday or next? Definitely feels like it's going to be a Monday reveal and probably ahead of the AoS preview on the 10th.

With Warcry going up for Preorder this weekend, that just leaves HH mechanicus doesn't it?

Are there any rumours about possible reveal dates for new KT stuff? Like incoming conventions with GW keynotes etc.

Nova seems the most likely, its at the end of the month. Lets them finish up the article series, do the reveal, and have the new box ready for Christmas time (if not earlier)

Chalnath part III featuring Komandos infiltrating an Imperial city/manufacturing district. Wasn't expecting another one of these.

Could this be a hint at a new starter set to come out alongside the next season of Kill Team? With Imperial terrain over Ork.

 Tastyfish wrote:
Chalnath part III featuring Komandos infiltrating an Imperial city/manufacturing district. Wasn't expecting another one of these.

Could this be a hint at a new starter set to come out alongside the next season of Kill Team? With Imperial terrain over Ork.

They mention some super weapon so maybe some Titan or super heavies contruction yards?

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Tastyfish wrote:
Chalnath part III featuring Komandos infiltrating an Imperial city/manufacturing district. Wasn't expecting another one of these.

Could this be a hint at a new starter set to come out alongside the next season of Kill Team? With Imperial terrain over Ork.

They mention some super weapon so maybe some Titan or super heavies contruction yards?

That's this season's macguffin, everyone is sneaking around because the Imperials have some kind of interplanetary weapon on a world called Volkus that is letting them hold onto the critical Kessandras system (the lynchpin of Chalnath sector).

The imperials were referring to it as 'the Alpha Asset' in the first dispatch, the Tau confirmed it was a weapon in the second.

 Tastyfish wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Tastyfish wrote:
Chalnath part III featuring Komandos infiltrating an Imperial city/manufacturing district. Wasn't expecting another one of these.

Could this be a hint at a new starter set to come out alongside the next season of Kill Team? With Imperial terrain over Ork.

They mention some super weapon so maybe some Titan or super heavies contruction yards?

That's this season's macguffin, everyone is sneaking around because the Imperials have some kind of interplanetary weapon on a world called Volkus that is letting them hold onto the critical Kessandras system (the lynchpin of Chalnath sector).

Which would/could point to some Imperial terrain as you suggested or maybe even some pre-Imperial one if that weapon is some Dark Age of Technology one.

Oh, Imperial terrain, that would be refreshing...

Some say Elysians, some say Scions https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/08/10/critical-transmission-incoming-from-the-chalnath-expanse/

Oh look, it seems Valrak might be correct on this one, we just need to see some vespid now.

the valrak stuff that gets posted here is pretty much always right. not sure why people are still so dubious of him when he's usually pretty damn accurate, down to the contents of battleforces