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Nothing for Dwarfs or High Elves sounds a little odd - to stick with tradition, surely the Studio must be finding ways to make the pointy-ears OP...

 BorderCountess wrote:

 Commodus Leitdorf wrote:
New starter set next summer, Tomb Kings vs Wood Elves.

Re-hashing the Tomb Kings sounds like a rather odd choice.

Agreed. Beastmen would have been a better option to go with Wood Elves.

 Dawnbringer wrote:

 BorderCountess wrote:

 Commodus Leitdorf wrote:
New starter set next summer, Tomb Kings vs Wood Elves.

Re-hashing the Tomb Kings sounds like a rather odd choice.

Agreed. Beastmen would have been a better option to go with Wood Elves.

Boxed set = excuse for new sprues. If that means new, modern TK skeletons, I'm all in.

New Skellingtons might even tempt me.

Let’s face it, the ones TK used were out of scale when they first released, and replaced the vastly superior original plastic Skellingtons.

And they’ve only aged like curdled milk being held by a 1980’s Club Circuit Stand-up Comedian that refuses to consider updating their routine, wearing flared trousers that drinks 16 pints a night and smokes 80 tabs a day.

Wood Elves seem like an odd choice for a 2 player starter set. While I haven't played them myself i've always heard that they are not particularly beginner friendly and play a bit differently. It does sound like it could be a cool box though.

I have yet to get into the Old World since i'm waiting for Kislev, fingers crossed for next year.

Cathay
- Balloon now T4
- Champion gone
- Bombing run once per game rather than once per turn
- Dragonfire bomb nerf
- Points hike

What you say?!

The expensive and overpowered new model is getting nerfed after everyone went out and bought three?

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Cathay
- Balloon now T4
- Champion gone
- Bombing run once per game rather than once per turn
- Dragonfire bomb nerf
- Points hike

What you say?!

The expensive and overpowered new model is getting nerfed after everyone went out and bought three?

That'd be the GW MO.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Cathay
- Balloon now T4
- Champion gone
- Bombing run once per game rather than once per turn
- Dragonfire bomb nerf
- Points hike

What you say?!

The expensive and overpowered new model is getting nerfed after everyone went out and bought three?

Very few people ever bought three, let alone people would agree to continue facing three

Be it as it may: I think almost everyone can agree on two things:
1.) The balloon is overpowered and underpriced.
2.) The balloon rules are too good for a simple balloon (T5, unbreakable etc hello?)

New Arcane Journal
- Runs like classic 6th edition Chaos. Mixed Beasts and Warriors
- 1+ Gors, 1+ Marauders mandatory
- Idea being each unit is try to out perform the other to gain favour

Now this sounds interesting!

Is there any info on when will the Cathay second wave they previewed ages ago be released?

New Arcane Journal
- Runs like classic 6th edition Chaos. Mixed Beasts and Warriors
- 1+ Gors, 1+ Marauders mandatory
- Idea being each unit is try to out perform the other to gain favour

Hopefully, it's a case of either/or, not both Gors and Marauders being mandatory picks.

I also heard that you have to have 1+ of each faction WoC/BoC as a mandatory.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

New Arcane Journal
- Runs like classic 6th edition Chaos. Mixed Beasts and Warriors
- 1+ Gors, 1+ Marauders mandatory
- Idea being each unit is try to out perform the other to gain favour

Hopefully, it's a case of either/or, not both Gors and Marauders being mandatory picks.

From what I was able to gather from the rumors the way the army works is the Beastmen and Marauders can get bonus' based on the damage they do. They are competing for the eye of the gods so having one mandatory for each would make sense.

Again a lot of the rumors are like a game of telephone. I just transcribed what I found and they were translated from another language so things may have been lost in translation.

 Crimson wrote:
Is there any info on when will the Cathay second wave they previewed ages ago be released?

As far as I remember, they said something like „it will take a while“ and „late winter/early spring“ in the stream.
Thus, my guess would be: preorder at the end of February and release early March.

Not to mention that it's the third set of Cathay releases, which is why my initial response was going to be "It's already out."

 Commodus Leitdorf wrote:

New Arcane Journal
- Runs like classic 6th edition Chaos. Mixed Beasts and Warriors
- 1+ Gors, 1+ Marauders mandatory
- Idea being each unit is trying to out perform the other to gain favour

Um, AKSHULLY the splitting of the Chaos Horde happened in 5th edition, and was well-established by the time 6th rolled around.

Still, the bonus rules had better be really good to be worth taking such a mixed-force. Most of the monsters can already be taken by both Warriors and Beasts, so all you'd really be gaining access tois some horny infantry for the Warrior side, or decent cavalry for the Beasts.

 Commodus Leitdorf wrote:


From what I was able to gather from the rumors the way the army works is the Beastmen and Marauders can get bonus' based on the damage they do. They are competing for the eye of the gods so having one mandatory for each would make sense.

Again a lot of the rumors are like a game of telephone. I just transcribed what I found and they were translated from another language so things may have been lost in translation.

Eh, I suppose that's what "counts as" is for. Not like I'd ever put a unit straight out of the box on the tabletop, especially if I was doing old school, proper Chaos Warband.

 Crimson wrote:
Is there any info on when will the Cathay second wave they previewed ages ago be released?

Ages ago? It was little over 1 month ago lol

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 Commodus Leitdorf wrote:


From what I was able to gather from the rumors the way the army works is the Beastmen and Marauders can get bonus' based on the damage they do. They are competing for the eye of the gods so having one mandatory for each would make sense.

Again a lot of the rumors are like a game of telephone. I just transcribed what I found and they were translated from another language so things may have been lost in translation.

Eh, I suppose that's what "counts as" is for. Not like I'd ever put a unit straight out of the box on the tabletop, especially if I was doing old school, proper Chaos Warband.

What would you be using the combined list for, if not combining them? you can already play with lists that don't combine them.

I’ve dreamed of hordes of chaos for a long, long time - can’t wait for it to happen. Now just bring daemons back into the game and I’ll be one happy camper.