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 BrookM wrote:
The clear parts are clipped onto the sprue if you look carefully enough.


They look made exactly like multi color gundam sprues.

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If the one on the right is about the same size, I'll be using that as a good 'counts as' option as to me it just looks so much better...
   
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If the one on the right is about the same size, I'll be using that as a good 'counts as' option as to me it just looks so much better...


It even has all the same hard points! Arm with one big gun or a fist with a small gun, two nipple guns, top mount.
   
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What do you all think of the new deployment? Is alternating deploying units better than the old style? I would always try and deploy second with my guard army to counter deploy. Now each player can counter deploy. (or has this been talked about already?)

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THAT.


Was there a time when Forge World wasn't superior to standard GW models? I mean since there has been a Forge World.

What do you all think of the new deployment? Is alternating deploying units better than the old style? I would always try and deploy second with my guard army to counter deploy. Now each player can counter deploy. (or has this been talked about already?)


This is a huge step forward. Now if they would only go to an alternating activation game.

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Uh alternate deployment is an old thing they're bringing back. And is far better than the current all or nothing deployment thing

 
   
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The only benefit of all deploy at once is that you can use the bathroom and get another beer.
   
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 portugus wrote:
What do you all think of the new deployment? Is alternating deploying units better than the old style? I would always try and deploy second with my guard army to counter deploy. Now each player can counter deploy. (or has this been talked about already?)

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/25/new-warhammer-40000-missions/



Very poor move; Deploying second is a partial mitigating factor for first turn advantage.

Alternating deployment only really makes sense if you have more interaction than entire player takes entire turn, other player takes entire turn.
   
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All these images of dreadnoughts... all I see is;



At least the legs on the new ones seem longer, although they do have that 'legs spread' look that most GW models seem to adopt.

Despite all the upscaling going on, I'm still looking forward to this edition. I just can't understand the abuse Mantic take over 'stumpy legs' from gw fans.

Anyone know if the new dread will have all the weapon options possible with it?

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Aw, isn't that cute? Dreadnought looks like he's wearing metal diapers.


They... They made the angry washing machine... Worse?

How do you do that? Do you ban your sculptors from seeing what Forge World makes?

Or just tell them "do the opposite"?

 
   
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Why do Primaris even have Dreadnoughts? They're intended to preserve culture and tactical experience, right? Any Marine inside a Primaris Dreadnought right now was pretty much born yesterday and killed in his first mission. Truly worth saving!

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Why do Primaris even have Dreadnoughts? They're intended to preserve culture and tactical experience, right? Any Marine inside a Primaris Dreadnought right now was pretty much born yesterday and killed in his first mission. Truly worth saving!


You can't be applying lore-logic when there's new miniatures to sell!
At this point I'm just dropping any interest in fluff, it makes things easier.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Why do Primaris even have Dreadnoughts? They're intended to preserve culture and tactical experience, right? Any Marine inside a Primaris Dreadnought right now was pretty much born yesterday and killed in his first mission. Truly worth saving!


Devil's advocate since I'm on record disliking all this stuff but see a justification here regardless:

Nobody said that you need to be primaris to be interred in a Redemptor, just that Cawl made a new dreadnought design to go with the rest of his project.

In fact I can't imagine it matters in the slightest what kind of marine you are to be interred in whatever dreadnought chassis, so long as you have a black carapace to interface with it.
   
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The low angle perspective of the first shot made the dread look cool, the full front on shot makes it look fat.

I'm hoping there'll be a simple conversion, flip the armored center bit around or something, to make it look better.
   
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changemod wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
Why do Primaris even have Dreadnoughts? They're intended to preserve culture and tactical experience, right? Any Marine inside a Primaris Dreadnought right now was pretty much born yesterday and killed in his first mission. Truly worth saving!


Devil's advocate since I'm on record disliking all this stuff but see a justification here regardless:

Nobody said that you need to be primaris to be interred in a Redemptor, just that Cawl made a new dreadnought design to go with the rest of his project.

In fact I can't imagine it matters in the slightest what kind of marine you are to be interred in whatever dreadnought chassis, so long as you have a black carapace to interface with it.


This.

But this idea that the primaris are all newbies keeps constantly coming up. It is not true! They said that existing marines can be upgraded into primaris. Some of the officercs/NCOs shown have service studs. They're not newbies.

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 Flood wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
Why do Primaris even have Dreadnoughts? They're intended to preserve culture and tactical experience, right? Any Marine inside a Primaris Dreadnought right now was pretty much born yesterday and killed in his first mission. Truly worth saving!


You can't be applying lore-logic when there's new miniatures to sell!
At this point I'm just dropping any interest in fluff, it makes things easier.



Actually you can apply lore logic!

Regular marines can be upgraded to primars, ergo a dreadnought of this type contains an upgraded primaris!

Wow, who would have thought!
   
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 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
 theharrower wrote:
From L'Astropate on Facebook.


Aw, isn't that cute? Dreadnought looks like he's wearing metal diapers.


I'm just happy that GW is finally putting out models that I have no interest in buying. Not slamming anyone else's taste, but I have zero interest in any of the new marine aesthetic so far. Such a huge relief to my wallet.

 
   
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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Why do Primaris even have Dreadnoughts? They're intended to preserve culture and tactical experience, right? Any Marine inside a Primaris Dreadnought right now was pretty much born yesterday and killed in his first mission. Truly worth saving!


firstly, the project has been under development for 10k years. Second, Cawl could have done live combat tests quarantined from the rest of the imperium, especially if assaulting ork held territory.

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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
 theharrower wrote:
From L'Astropate on Facebook.


Aw, isn't that cute? Dreadnought looks like he's wearing metal diapers.


They... They made the angry washing machine... Worse?

How do you do that? Do you ban your sculptors from seeing what Forge World makes?

Or just tell them "do the opposite"?



I think they have used the old Rogue trader dredds as inspiration, it reminds me a bit of them.

 
   
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 portugus wrote:
What do you all think of the new deployment? Is alternating deploying units better than the old style? I would always try and deploy second with my guard army to counter deploy. Now each player can counter deploy. (or has this been talked about already?)

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/25/new-warhammer-40000-missions/



It's actually another throwback to older editions (3rd I believe). The only difference being that previously you were required to set up units in a specific order. Something along the lines of Heavy Support>Elites>Troops>Fast Attack. I kind of like it honestly. Still plenty of room for cat and mouse shenanigans, but less all or nothing.

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Well the Primaris guys also have officers so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Maybe the dreads are just guys who were hardwired into a dread instead of becoming intercessors. That seems pretty grimdark

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Looks like a Dragon Battlemech...

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Assuming the rules for the new Dread are better than the Leviathan I consider it a win as the Leviathan model is just super sexy.

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Lord Kragan wrote:
 Flood wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
Why do Primaris even have Dreadnoughts? They're intended to preserve culture and tactical experience, right? Any Marine inside a Primaris Dreadnought right now was pretty much born yesterday and killed in his first mission. Truly worth saving!


You can't be applying lore-logic when there's new miniatures to sell!
At this point I'm just dropping any interest in fluff, it makes things easier.



Actually you can apply lore logic!

Regular marines can be upgraded to primars, ergo a dreadnought of this type contains an upgraded primaris!

Wow, who would have thought!


we also don't know what the start date for 8th edition will be. for all we know 8th edition is decades if not centuries after the events of GS3

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I don't like the dreadnought in its default pose, but the striding forward pics Mad Dok posted make it look a lot better imo.
   
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That dread top on Leviathan legs might be perfection incarnate

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I'm going to get an ork to model under mine. Two of my friends who play do Orks.


I do that in my fantasy armies. one of my guys is killing a demon because a friend plays demons.

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That Dreadnought looks awful.

Ungainly, dumpy and ugly in a bad way. Not ungainly and ugly in a good way like the boxnaught. The Boxnaught has a brutish simplicity to it's design that makes it effective.

That new thing isn't awe inspiring at all. And it's laughable compared to the Leviathan.

It looks like something out of the Star Wars prequels.

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