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Fateweaver wrote:I just see no reason to legalize it. Alcohol in moderation is no more dangerous than weed and probably even LESS dangerous.

What?

Most people can drink 1 beer and not feel a thing. Smoking a bowl or a dub I'm sure has it's effects, even on those who smoke it daily.

A truly silly argument, coming from someone who has never actually smoked pot. A beer, compared to .25 grams app. of marijuana, varying to the amount of 1 gram of marijuana. Damn that number is slippery.

I have been in the same house where 6 people were lighting up. After 10 minutes I was starting to feel light headed and nauseous so I eventually left the house, went for a walk to clear my head (I was in the basement painting and could smell it drifting down into the paint room but like I said after 10 minutes it was making me feel what I can only imagine being stoned feels like (minus the nauseous).

Placebo.

Nope, it wasn't in my head.

Try again.

Fateweaver erroneously wrote:there has been more drug deals involving weed involving violence than violence over a keg of beer or case of beer

Woah, woah, woah.... I'm going to have to pull you on that one! That is far too simplistic a statement - transactions in which a keg of beer is purchased are generally legal - well...if you discount underage drinkers, but the beer its self is not an illicit substance. Buying illegal narcotics can very often put you in contact with some shady characters, a fact that wouldn't apply were it legalised. Plus, alcohol leads to violence waaaay more than weed. Anyone who's ever been stoned can vouch for that.

I'm going to agree with Daniel Tosh that they should legalize just so pot smokers have to find something else to talk about.

Ahtman wrote:I'm going to agree with Daniel Tosh that they should legalize just so pot smokers have to find something else to talk about.

"Do you want to smoke a joint?"
"No..I don't, thanks"
"Well,why not?"
" Becuase I'm not in seventh grade and I have gak to do...."

*goes to the all-night garage for Doritos*

Albatross wrote:@whatwhat - Toy soldiers are for kids too. I'm guessing you might need to sort your life out as well.

"toy soldiers" don't make you totally unproductive and do nothing but watch family guy and eat doritos all day.

Did the whole weed thing at Uni. Now I've left I can't help but notice those around me who don't do it as often any more are the ones who are getting on.

Why did gun control make you think of weed?

Probably something to do with all those Die Hard marathons.

Funny. I know people working on their PhD who could not continue sans the herb.

Funny substance that. Pip, pip, and maybe a cheery O.

Lets see, someone is doing a phd and they reckon they wouldn't be able to do it without weed? What are they doing? fething horticulture? What a joke.

You are clearly versed in the various professions associated with that given field.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horticulture

Yes, human expert you are.

Don't you have me on ignore?

I bet you like Cricket.

Love cricket, love how seriously you take the off topic forum. Love it all. Now give me a 500 word essay on why the USA is in Iraq and make sure you type it like you believe it's going to make a difference like always Dogma. I'll forward it on to someone who cares and we'll see if we can sort some of that debt out for you.


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Then maybe you scrawl the replies for anything you deem, in your infinite wisdom, ignorant so you can write out another 500 word rebuttal you've researched off Google, Wikipedia and some of those ivy league school books which cost you so much money. I know that gives you the feeling of fulfillment you need dogma. So do it. ...oh, you were already going to? Fair one. On your way squire, for your life holds much purpose.

whatwhat wrote:Love cricket, love how seriously you take the off topic forum. Love it all. Now give me a 500 word essay on why the USA is in Iraq and make sure you type it like you believe it's going to make a difference like always Dogma. I'll forward it on to someone who cares and we'll see if we can sort some of that debt out for you.

You seem upset.

whatwhat wrote:
Then maybe you scrawl the replies for anything you deem, in your infinite wisdom, ignorant so you can write out another 500 word rebuttal you've researched off Google, Wikipedia and some of those ivy league school books which cost you so much money. I know that gives you the feeling of fulfillment you need dogma. So do it. ...oh, you were already going to? Fair one. On your way squire, for your life holds much purpose.

I imagine you would be upset to learn that my debt has been paid by the State Department.

Do you like drawing?

@whatwhat

I like those 500 word essays, they tend to be well thought out and usually put issues into a different, interesting perspective. His habit of correcting inaccuracies is useful. Dogma (alongside sebster, polonius and JEB IMO) is one of the best reasons to read the OT forum.

Now i'll just go remove my lips form dogma's arse...

On Topic: I hear cannabis increases the risk of schizophrenia, albeit with disputed research. Seems a good reason to keep it illegal.

EVERY human society has found some way of chemically getting off.

Whether it was alcohol, peyote, tobacco, hemp, opium, betel nut, coca, 'ludes or whiffits or whatever else.

Legal status doesn't change this. Humans have always done it, and will continue to do it.

Hell, even some of the other animals have found the joy of it (camels in Australia, monkeys and elephants in Africa).

Teh_K42 wrote:On Topic: I hear cannabis increases the risk of schizophrenia, albeit with disputed research. Seems a good reason to keep it illegal.

That seems a good reason to regulate it, at least I would assume so. If self-medication can be stemmed through regulation, then there is a very good reason to regulate marijuana. I doubt that I will see pot legalized entirely for decades, if at all.

chromedog wrote:EVERY human society has found some way of chemically getting off.

This is a fair point, but the main purpose of this discussion in general, is to minimize the negative effects of said substances on the whole of a population.

One of the most interest parts of this conversation, comes in the form of why people use these substances. In very few societies, has there been widespread recreational use of 'drugs', without a considerable negative side to all of it. Formally, most tribal cultures use mind-altering substances in religious/spiritual ceremony, and medicine. Recreational use of these 'drugs' in a modern society, has a lot more going against it in general.

I don't attempt to say that marijuana is good or bad, just that the thought of a modern society, torn apart at the seams due to legalized marijuana, is unlikely (IMHO) to say the least. I do not have the same sentiment about other, harder substances, that could easily tear apart a modern society (IMHO).

Teh_K42 wrote:Now i'll just go remove my lips form dogma's arse...

Indeed. be sure to let him know I appreciate his concern. He has informed me how bitter I am three times now, he really needed to make sure I knew how bitter he I was bless him.


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Oh and we have recieved a new quote of the year via pm...

Dogma wrote:Stiff lips help with cock sucking.

What a guy.

Why do you attack me? There seems to be no reason for it.

I'm going to print this page out and frame it.

Its nice that you feel the need to fabricate evidence for your discussion.

Ricky Ponting would be so very upset.

It's nice also how you feel the need to send me insults via pm believing that by calling me a homosexual and picking at my choice of career you have somehow hit a nerve.

Not so smart when he's red faced.

If that's the case, why have you posted?

thread locked.. investigations proceeding...