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+1 to MGS

That did sound more like a pro-LARP post that spoke of the benefits of it. The only thing that had to do with being 'stuck' In-Character was the kid jumping out the window. But lets face it - Some people aren't exactly the brightest bulbs in the pack.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Just watch it, brother, it'll make more sense. Taking skills learned from a social activity, and doing it how they did it are two different things.

All roleplaying comes from wanting to be different, for some reason or the other, they just take it to a weird level.

As a roleplayer of many years, it's not about wanting to be different, more the trying on of another pair of shoes for a little while and then taking them off. I have no desire to be an east-end vampire criminal but for several years, on a weds night, I sat at a table and took part in a RP game and it was great fun.

It is escapism, but no more that than reading a book or watching a movie and being engrossed in the plot.

RP games are the same whether sat down at a table or running about in costume. They are also the cousin of tabletop battle games.

All these games have an 'odd' element in them population wise, if you consider the 1 in 10 people on the planet have a mental condition of some form, then these games, with their notions of escapism and fantasy, can attract those people. When you then look at films like Avatar and Twilight, and read about their fangroups on the internet, then you can see LARPers are not the fruitloops you've got them pegged as. If you then listen to those guys who tatoo themselves with their football team's colours and are unable to communicate about anything else and even miss their own child being born because 'the match is on' you can see that any passtime or interest can have unhinged people in it.

I will try to watch the documentary you've cited, but I wonder at it's agenda and how things will be portrayed. It's like saying 'if you want to know about Baptist beliefs, come watch this show about the guys from Westbro...', all I can tell you in return is that I work with 4 LARPers, all of whom are in long term relationships and happy with their lot in life (or as happy as the rest of humanity), have well paid jobs and enjoy a beer after work. At least two of them boggle at tabletop wargaming, especially the prices and the constant rereleasing of the rules and codices and think I'm round the twist to continue paying for all that.

Different strokes.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Just watch it, brother, it'll make more sense. Taking skills learned from a social activity, and doing it how they did it are two different things.

All roleplaying comes from wanting to be different, for some reason or the other, they just take it to a weird level.

You should probably learn to separate groups you see on documentaries from groups you don't when you are seeking to review multitudinous and heavily varied groups of people with highly diverse hobbies and interests.

http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/darkon/


Watch it for free. I was always referencing those who take it too far. Look back to my first post in the thread. For Christ sake I play VG RPGs all the time, and I dont imagine that I am commander Shepherd etc...


Correction, look at my first REAL post with actual content.

I did... because my shepherd looked like jean reno... it was the only good thing in the game for me :(

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/darkon/


Watch it for free. I was always referencing those who take it too far. Look back to my first post in the thread. For Christ sake I play VG RPGs all the time, and I dont imagine that I am commander Shepherd etc...

....

There are numerous logical fallacies at work here. I do not care enough to point them out.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/darkon/


Watch it for free. I was always referencing those who take it too far. Look back to my first post in the thread. For Christ sake I play VG RPGs all the time, and I dont imagine that I am commander Shepherd etc...

....

There are numerous logical fallacies at work here. I do not care enough to point them out.

Like? LOL. Dude, just watch it man. Specifically the Gorgo guy.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/darkon/


Watch it for free. I was always referencing those who take it too far. Look back to my first post in the thread. For Christ sake I play VG RPGs all the time, and I dont imagine that I am commander Shepherd etc...

....

There are numerous logical fallacies at work here. I do not care enough to point them out.

Like? LOL. Dude, just watch it man. Specifically the Gorgo guy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy

Just look for it yourself, I'm working on a final project.

Good luck on finals. Im sure your professors find you contrary nature very..... challenging

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Good luck on finals. Im sure your professors find you contrary nature very..... challenging

Depending on the professor it can help quite a bit or hurt.

I mock twilight because I'm a fan of vampires. I mock wargaming and larping to people in person to see them get ticked off then confused when they find out I do both. A geeks a geek regardless if the garb is chainmail and leather or t-shirts and cheeto dust.

rocklord2004 wrote:I mock twilight because I'm a fan of vampires. I mock wargaming and larping to people in person to see them get ticked off then confused when they find out I do both. A geeks a geek regardless if the garb is chainmail and leather or t-shirts and cheeto dust.

...or wearing a "Team Edward" shirt.

Commissar Molotov wrote:While I'm generally all for egalitarianism, I must insist that there is a nerdy, geeky pecking order...

LARPers are WAY down the "dork chain" from more established and genteel nerd pursuits like miniatures and comic books. In fact, while they're barely above "furries," at least LARPers don't try to play "hide the salami" while they're dressed up in their dork costumes.

*shudders*

Thank GAWD for that.

Where the hell do i go then I'm a furry who LARPS plays war-games and RPg's and for added fun i'm a programmer. I must be Uber dork bow down before me

I actually want to give LARPing a try one day I mean what's not to like, beating up people with blunt objects, running around in forests, camping, socializing, gaming under structured rules and meeting new people. I totally can see the

attraction in this, besides how can you criticize something if you've never tried it.

Are you saying I shouldn't criticize buttsechs until I try it? Or eating people? Or cutting off my arm?

I think I prefer blind criticism if the situation is appropriate.

Also, Cheesecat I just noticed your location - What part of town you in? We should have a game sometime.

youbedead wrote:

Commissar Molotov wrote:While I'm generally all for egalitarianism, I must insist that there is a nerdy, geeky pecking order...

LARPers are WAY down the "dork chain" from more established and genteel nerd pursuits like miniatures and comic books. In fact, while they're barely above "furries," at least LARPers don't try to play "hide the salami" while they're dressed up in their dork costumes.

*shudders*

Thank GAWD for that.

Where the hell do i go then I'm a furry who LARPS plays war-games and RPg's and for added fun i'm a programmer. I must be Uber dork bow down before me

You being a furry negates all of of the other things you do, regardless of how redeeming they might be....

ShivanAngel wrote:

youbedead wrote:

Commissar Molotov wrote:While I'm generally all for egalitarianism, I must insist that there is a nerdy, geeky pecking order...

LARPers are WAY down the "dork chain" from more established and genteel nerd pursuits like miniatures and comic books. In fact, while they're barely above "furries," at least LARPers don't try to play "hide the salami" while they're dressed up in their dork costumes.

*shudders*

Thank GAWD for that.

Where the hell do i go then I'm a furry who LARPS plays war-games and RPg's and for added fun i'm a programmer. I must be Uber dork bow down before me

You being a furry negates all of of the other things you do, regardless of how redeeming they might be....

+1

Being a furry, this is your only redemption:

metallifan wrote:Are you saying I shouldn't criticize buttsechs until I try it?

This, pretty much.

Like I said, I prefer blind criticism in appropriate circumstances. The safety and well-being of my bunghole is right up there.

Ha.

Gimmie a dollar and I'll drink that whole tube. And damn the consequences!

It is water-based, which I guess is supposed to be comforting?

I'll show you comforting, you big dirty man.

Cane wrote:Everyone's got their own standards of geekness but imo and probably for most people/geeks; LARPing is on another tier of geekdom than wargaming even for pencil and paper veterans in a similar way that video gamers may view tabletop wargamers. At least everyone can poke fun at the furries though.

Kinda like being a fan of a sport. Some will casually watch, play fantasy leagues, some heckle the players/fans/etc, others buy a jersey, get autographs, others collect everything they can, and some will show up to a game half-naked covered in paint while getting drunk to the point of running on the field.

I think this is more honest than the "all geeks are equal" idea.

Personally, if I think of my non-gaming friends, it'd almost certainly be easiest to get them into video gaming. It's practically mainstream nowadays. Next hardest would be tabletop minis. It's really not for everyone. And most difficult would definitely be LARP. Even if I spun it around women and booze, there are other ways to meet women and party that don't involve costumes and acting.

gorgon wrote:

Cane wrote:Everyone's got their own standards of geekness but imo and probably for most people/geeks; LARPing is on another tier of geekdom than wargaming even for pencil and paper veterans in a similar way that video gamers may view tabletop wargamers. At least everyone can poke fun at the furries though.

Kinda like being a fan of a sport. Some will casually watch, play fantasy leagues, some heckle the players/fans/etc, others buy a jersey, get autographs, others collect everything they can, and some will show up to a game half-naked covered in paint while getting drunk to the point of running on the field.

I think this is more honest than the "all geeks are equal" idea.

Personally, if I think of my non-gaming friends, it'd almost certainly be easiest to get them into video gaming. It's practically mainstream nowadays. Next hardest would be tabletop minis. It's really not for everyone. And most difficult would definitely be LARP. Even if I spun it around women and booze, there are other ways to meet women and party that don't involve costumes and acting.

I think you massively overestimate the size of the wargaming market.

metallifan wrote:Are you saying I shouldn't criticize buttsechs until I try it? Or eating people? Or cutting off my arm?

I think I prefer blind criticism if the situation is appropriate.

Also, Cheesecat I just noticed your location - What part of town you in? We should have a game sometime.

I live in the Aberdeen part of town, but I don't game no more. But I'm all for meeting new people (so yeah we should meet sometime).

Cheesecat wrote:I actually want to give LARPing a try one day I mean what's not to like, beating up people with blunt objects, running around in forests, camping, socializing, gaming under structured rules and meeting new people. I totally can see the

attraction in this, besides how can you criticize something if you've never tried it.

I proudly proclaim that I semi-larp, by this I mean that its larping with the most idiotic portions cut out, costumes and character names are a minimum unless you go to a huge event, and no spells, just the beating with foam covered portions of PVC. which you may think is stupid, and to you I say this 1) if 10 thousand people do it then it must have some merit, and 2) its a way for nerds to exercise and meet new people without playing, dare I say it, organized sports

Bla_Ze wrote:

When are they going to ban that dudes burka?