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I'm finding it odd that second time round I can't seem to get my hands on either an Anti-Material Rifle or a LMG. Instead they seem to be offering a crapton of .22 weapons..
BrookM wrote:I'm finding it odd that second time round I can't seem to get my hands on either an Anti-Material Rifle or a LMG. Instead they seem to be offering a crapton of .22 weapons..
You clearly have not been using your Bucket enough. (See CAD for details )
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Oh, so glad I got me some New Vegas. Funny thing is that I have spent around 13 hours so far and have yet to go into vegas. I love how I will go and do some quest and get distracted by some thing that I see in the distance. A little sight seeing ADD. I love this game.
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If you play the game through the early quests it will take you quite some time to get to New Vegas. Right now my character needs to do a little toughening up, all speech and science but no skill at hurting people, yikes, those Vaults are daunting all of the sudden.
Manchu wrote:Do people really prefer downtown DC to Freeside and the Strip?
Yeah, I totally do.
Fallout 3 felt more like a real civilization in ruins than New Vegas. New Vegas is a bit more Mad Max style of "The apocalypse will result in people living in the desert", which is kinda lame, IMO.
Its kind of hard to not live in a desert when it was desert to begin with you know.
Looks warmer though, DC was gray, Point Lookout was green, and New Vegas was red.
I love the fact that New Vegas is almost always visible in the distance. It does a lot to help the narrative, and set the mood of the game.
That said, Fallout 3's wasteland was more interesting on the whole. There just seemed to be more 'nooks' to explore, and I appreciated the more detached sensibility of the game. It felt far more like the sort of 'wanderer' aesthetic should. In my mind, anyway and obviously.
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I must agree with dogma on Fallout 3 being far more interesting to explore.
New Vegas is relatively bland in the quest and location department.
There hasnt been a really interesting or involving quest from what I have seen so far, though the incident at Vault 38 I think was pretty interesting.
In Fallout 3 you had some great places like the Republic of Dave, Andale, the Museum of History, Megaton, Pentenny Tower etc, etc most of these places had some extremely interesting stories to meddle in or discover, Andale's little secret about the happiest town in America, The Republic of Dave's political plot or the grim story of Pentenny Tower where trully there is no right way about it.
The Mojave wasteland is barren of great sites, you have about a thousand Shacks, a million NCR camps or outposts and not to mention the hundreds of named locations with nothing of value or use. Im not exactly awe struck when I come across a new site which is basically an overturned raided caravan with no loot. The game lacks variety in many of its quests, of course there are some interesting sites like Devils Throat, Sunset Sasperilla Factory ummmmm, the place thats run by Mr Handyman's. Jacobstown is the first place Ive come to which actually makes me want to help them.
I miss the Enclave too, they were great villainous characters and Im kind've hoping they bomb the crap out of Caesers Legion and show him how its done.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I must also add the Glitches in New Vegas are atrocious, I didnt think it possible but its worse then Point Lookout, I loved Point Lookout by the way.
Not only do i manage to beat more opponents by getting them stuck in the ground but I also find myself shooting in VATS and my opponent loses no health despite being out of health. It then seems I cant kill the opponent unless I shoot them in real time.
The Stranger perk is also the worst if not atrocious "perk" in the game, in Fallout 3 Mysterious Stranger was one of the best perks, it could get you out of a quick jam easily and without fuss. In new vegas it is so glitchy that I have had times where he didnt kill the opponent, or killed one opponent and then gets stuck in cinematic for a minute all the while I am getting killed.
The glitches are really bad, terrible even.
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Yeah, I've gotten stuck in the ground before and most recently my character got stuck running sideways for some reason.
I like the game but I also agree there seem to be a big number of spots that are just anti-fun. I loved finding the BoS bunker and then no loot in it *anti-joy*
Line of sight seems to be a bit off too. I'll shoot at something and little dust marks appear in empty space between my target and myself like I was shooting a wall.
I have to say that I'm still having fun with the game though.
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brotherskeeper74 wrote:Oh, so glad I got me some New Vegas. Funny thing is that I have spent around 13 hours so far and have yet to go into vegas. I love how I will go and do some quest and get distracted by some thing that I see in the distance. A little sight seeing ADD. I love this game.
New Vegas itself is kinda disappointing. I always cringe when I have to go into the city for some reason. The wastes are just way more interesting...
Also, anyone who hasn't stumbled across the New Vegas Medical Clinic: go and find it. Find it now!
Quests are not interesting or involving? Have you come across the Ghoul cult yet?
New Vegas suffers mostly from the title location, which implied a promise too grand to be delivered in this sort of game. Even so, I think it's better than the downtown DC, which I found massively boring outside of the Mall. Underworld is my favorite overall location in either game (nowhere near done with New Vegasm thought) but the Mojave has so much more character than the DC Wasteland.
"I Don't Want to Set the World on Fire" was a great choice in song for Fall Out 3.
I don't recall what is the main song for New Vegas :-(
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This is a little story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody.
There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.
Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.
Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody's job.
Everybody thought that Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it.
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done.
Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others; Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do
Sanctjud wrote:"I Don't Want to Set the World on Fire" was a great choice in song for Fall Out 3.
It was originally slotted for FO1 but they couldn't get the license untilk FO3, eleven years later. I agree it's very suitable. But I'm not sure I would remember it except that the game came with a that five track CD.
Manchu wrote:Quests are not interesting or involving? Have you come across the Ghoul cult yet?
New Vegas suffers mostly from the title location, which implied a promise too grand to be delivered in this sort of game. Even so, I think it's better than the downtown DC, which I found massively boring outside of the Mall. Underworld is my favorite overall location in either game (nowhere near done with New Vegasm thought) but the Mojave has so much more character than the DC Wasteland.
I love the Mojave in terms of all the different factions fighting for control. Every quest, I feel like I have to weigh the options of helping one faction vs another, and I'm not quite ready to commit yet. It makes your individual actions seem like they are part of the entire world.
It also gets bonus points for different levels of bad guys. Are The Kings evil? They're a gang that runs Freeside and aren't particularly nice, but they seem to be willing to play ball with the NCR and aren't working with slavers, etc. What about the Great Khans? They're sorta-raiders, but have been fairly reasonable in my interactions with them.
FO3 was a little too simple of the evil Enclave vs everyone else, with most isolated quests involving factions that never really come into play apart from that one quest.
Overall, I'm really enjoying that aspect of New Vegas. Reminds me quite a bit of Morrowind, and having to unite the different tribes/houses.
One thing I love about both games is that you never know what's going to happen inside each location you stumble across.
Anybody try any of the mods yet?
Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others; Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do
I haven't even seen anyone wearing power armor yet..
Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others; Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do
Sanctjud wrote:"I Don't Want to Set the World on Fire" was a great choice in song for Fall Out 3.
It was originally slotted for FO1 but they couldn't get the license untilk FO3, eleven years later. I agree it's very suitable. But I'm not sure I would remember it except that the game came with a that five track CD.
"Maybe" was a better choice for the first Fallout than "I Don't Want to Set the World on Fire" would have been IMO.
According to the Vault, "Blue moon" sung by Sinatra is the Theme of New Vegas.
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