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So you're a hand to hand specialist now, thus increasing the likelihood one of the buggers is going to bite you? Just get in a car, preferable a double dooley with big bumpers. You'll never worry about a zombie again.
Also guns have finite ammo.
Only in canada.
Fighting a Zombie is not a Kung Fu movie. Zombies move at a "shambling" pace and are quite slow. Hence you can just go ahead and hit them in the head with a hammer. The main thing that's stressed is to stay calm and keep you wits about you..
Automatically Appended Next Post: As for the American centric view. The top two zombie killing weapons are The Katana Blade and the Shoalin Spade. Last place on the list was the M-16.
Again, this tome of idiocy gives amazingly bad advice.
Everyone knows Zombies are slow until they get into range. Hitting them with a hammer is very close biting range. Meanwhile a simple .22 long rifle round, best used for squirrels, is easily applicable from the top of Robot Lincoln or failing a lack of robot Lincolns, and ice cream truck. Why an ice cream truck you ask? Because nobody, not even zombies, would expect anything bad happening when the ice cream man comes. Ice Cream Ice Cream!
For more fun filled entertainment. Get a pick up truck. Get you a hand supply of bats and two by fours. have someone drive maybe 15-20 miles and hour. have another person in the back. Swing for the fences baby.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
KamikazeCanuck wrote:Fighting a Zombie is not a Kung Fu movie. Zombies move at a "shambling" pace and are quite slow. Hence you can just go ahead and hit them in the head with a hammer. The main thing that's stressed is to stay calm and keep you wits about you..
And throughout the book it suggests that you keep zombies as far away from you as possible as the closer they get the less calm your are and the harder it is to keep your wits. It suggests that at whatever range you feel comfortable shooting a head sized target at, halve that distance when under the stress of a zombie attack.
As for the American centric view. The top two zombie killing weapons are The Katana Blade and the Shoalin Spade. Last place on the list was the M-16.
I'm not going to argue this too hard, as you yourself have a more American view of the world than I do (I would imagine, as you live in America's hat), not to mention we are discussing a work of fiction on a fictional topic The top rated weapons were indeed non-American in origin. However, and here I speak as someone who has lived on 3 continents and visited countries in a further 2 - a lot of the less general advice in the book is not all that practical if you don't have guns and lots of ammunition
However, as I say, it is a fictional work about fictional things
In America's hat we generally don't have guns either but if you recall the premeire long range anit-zombie weapon was the AK-47. Definately not all-american.
So you're a hand to hand specialist now, thus increasing the likelihood one of the buggers is going to bite you? Just get in a car, preferable a double dooley with big bumpers. You'll never worry about a zombie again.
Also guns have finite ammo.
Only in canada.
Fighting a Zombie is not a Kung Fu movie. Zombies move at a "shambling" pace and are quite slow. Hence you can just go ahead and hit them in the head with a hammer. The main thing that's stressed is to stay calm and keep you wits about you..
Automatically Appended Next Post: As for the American centric view. The top two zombie killing weapons are The Katana Blade and the Shoalin Spade. Last place on the list was the M-16.
Again, this tome of idiocy gives amazingly bad advice.
Everyone knows Zombies are slow until they get into range. Hitting them with a hammer is very close biting range. Meanwhile a simple .22 long rifle round, best used for squirrels, is easily applicable from the top of Robot Lincoln or failing a lack of robot Lincolns, and ice cream truck. Why an ice cream truck you ask? Because nobody, not even zombies, would expect anything bad happening when the ice cream man comes. Ice Cream Ice Cream!
For more fun filled entertainment. Get a pick up truck. Get you a hand supply of bats and two by fours. have someone drive maybe 15-20 miles and hour. have another person in the back. Swing for the fences baby.
This is Zombie apocalypse SURVIVAL guide. If there's 6 billion zombies a .22 calibre rifle is useless. You only kill zombies as a last resort or if there in your way. It how to survive for decades not for how to retake Zombie New York.
Seriously it's a great book. Hilarious as the entire thing is comical but done in a deadpan style.
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KamikazeCanuck wrote:[In America's hat we generally don't have guns either but if you recall the premeire long range anit-zombie weapon was the AK-47. Definately not all-american.
Erm... there are actually quite a few guns in Canada.
As of 2000 AD:
Low Range Estimates
2,400,000 firearms owners
7,200,000 firearms
Medium Range Estimates
3,100,000 firearms owners
9,000,000 firearms
High Range Estimates
3,800,000 firearms owners
11,000,000 firearms
SOURCE: Memorandum of Agreement Respecting the Federal-Provincial Financial Agreement Addressing the Administration of the Firearms Act and Regulations Between The Government of Canada and The Government of the Province of Ontario – APPENDIX ‘A’ SERVICE DELIVERY MODELS, DISCUSSION PAPER (Version #2a) Overview, Analysis & Development of a Baseline Model, Operations Transition Planning, Canadian Firearms Centre, May 19, 1998. NOTE: This Agreement with Ontario was signed by Justice Minister Anne McLellan on December 2, 1999 and by Ontario Solicitor General David Tsubouchi on September 14, 2000
And the AK is noted primarily because it is so reliable. You can do pretty much anything to it and it will keep on working. I am not expert, but I also believe that it uses ammunition that is easy to get.
KamikazeCanuck wrote:[In America's hat we generally don't have guns either but if you recall the premeire long range anit-zombie weapon was the AK-47. Definately not all-american.
Erm... there are actually quite a few guns in Canada.
As of 2000 AD:
Low Range Estimates
2,400,000 firearms owners
7,200,000 firearms
Medium Range Estimates
3,100,000 firearms owners
9,000,000 firearms
High Range Estimates
3,800,000 firearms owners
11,000,000 firearms
pfff, buddy that's nothing. You proved my point.
there are over 300 MILLION guns in America. Enough for every man, woman and child!
Plus those Canadian numbers are mostly bolt action hunting rifles. In America it could be annything from a 9mm handgun to an assualt rifle.
Automatically Appended Next Post: argh, quote mis-fire.
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KamikazeCanuck wrote:pfff, buddy that's nothing. You proved my point.
At the higher range, that is 1 for every 3 people. Compare that to the UK where there are roughly 1 gun per 20 people (estimated), most of which are shotguns hidden away on farms, and where the majority of guns are owned by a very limited number of people (ie one person will own several guns) and the quantity of ammunition is significantly lower per weapon.
there are over 300 MILLION guns in America. Enough for every man, woman and child!
Plus those Canadian numbers are mostly bolt action hunting rifles. In America it could be annything from a 9mm handgun to an assualt rifle.
And what is the most desirable weapon to kill zombies? Something that you can't waste ammo with, and that is accurate at long ranges
Plus I would imagine that many Americans would flee north and bring their guns to you
KamikazeCanuck wrote:pfff, buddy that's nothing. You proved my point.
At the higher range, that is 1 for every 3 people. Compare that to the UK where there are roughly 1 gun per 20 people (estimated), most of which are shotguns hidden away on farms, and where the majority of guns are owned by a very limited number of people (ie one person will own several guns) and the quantity of ammunition is significantly lower per weapon.
there are over 300 MILLION guns in America. Enough for every man, woman and child!
Plus those Canadian numbers are mostly bolt action hunting rifles. In America it could be annything from a 9mm handgun to an assualt rifle.
And what is the most desirable weapon to kill zombies? Something that you can't waste ammo with, and that is accurate at long ranges
Plus I would imagine that many Americans would flee north and bring their guns to you
I didn't say Canada had a lower gun ratio than the UK. You live on an island and don't share a border with gun country. You see we have a deal: we ship Marijuana south and they ship guns and crack cocaine north - then everyone's happy.
IIRC the primary riffle encouraged by The Zombie Survival Guide was the Rugger Mini-14...not the AK-47.
Slightly off...Pages 46 and 47 list " The semiautomatic riffle"..as "the superior zombie killer" and goes on to list the M1 Garand,M1 Carbine,Rugger Mini-14 and Mini 30 and the Chinese Type 56 ( aversion of the SKS) as the preferred weapons.
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I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
..."Plus those Canadian numbers are mostly bolt action hunting rifles. In America it could be annything from a 9mm handgun to an assualt rifle."
Hey! You looked in my closet! Peeper!
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Dont get me wrong, when those shufflers come Ill have my fair share of "do yea feel lucky" on hand. But as for silence, Im going to be using a compound bow. They are VERy quiet, easily strong enough to take out a zombie, can be used at long SAFE ranges, And if Im lucky, I can recover the arrow.
Also, when it comes to arguing about guns, its silly to bring America into it. If you dont like the low gun count in your country, then move out of it. Our borders are pretty easy to get through, just ask our southern neighbors
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Connor McKane wrote:..."Plus those Canadian numbers are mostly bolt action hunting rifles. In America it could be annything from a 9mm handgun to an assualt rifle."
Hey! You looked in my closet! Peeper!
in the closet? Pfff, how Californian of you, under the pillow is getting there
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KingCracker wrote:Also, when it comes to arguing about guns, its silly to bring America into it. If you dont like the low gun count in your country, then move out of it. Our borders are pretty easy to get through, just ask our southern neighbors
Yes, because availability of guns is the primary thing I look for in a country to live
Besides which, we are not complaining about there "not being enough guns", we are complaining that the ZSG was too gun/American focused
This is Zombie apocalypse SURVIVAL guide. If there's 6 billion zombies a .22 calibre rifle is useless. You only kill zombies as a last resort or if there in your way. It how to survive for decades not for how to retake Zombie New York.
Seriously it's a great book. Hilarious as the entire thing is comical but done in a deadpan style.
Son, you've never been to a Texas afternoon shootout. 6bn rounds-no problem!
Besides, as noted, just be in the family vehicle. while you reload the little woman drives normally, be bopping along to her favorite radio station or squalking on the cellphone. Hundreds of pedestrians, er zombies yea zombies won't have a chance. And thats NOW...
Can't believe she hit my car in the ing driveway...
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
KingCracker wrote:Also, when it comes to arguing about guns, its silly to bring America into it. If you dont like the low gun count in your country, then move out of it. Our borders are pretty easy to get through, just ask our southern neighbors
Yes, because availability of guns is the primary thing I look for in a country to live
Besides which, we are not complaining about there "not being enough guns", we are complaining that the ZSG was too gun/American focused
You mean people dont look for that when moving some place new?
This is Zombie apocalypse SURVIVAL guide. If there's 6 billion zombies a .22 calibre rifle is useless. You only kill zombies as a last resort or if there in your way. It how to survive for decades not for how to retake Zombie New York.
Seriously it's a great book. Hilarious as the entire thing is comical but done in a deadpan style.
Son, you've never been to a Texas afternoon shootout. 6bn rounds-no problem!
Besides, as noted, just be in the family vehicle. while you reload the little woman drives normally, be bopping along to her favorite radio station or squalking on the cellphone. Hundreds of pedestrians, er zombies yea zombies won't have a chance. And thats NOW...
Can't believe she hit my car in the ing driveway...
Oh, I fully expect Texas to be the last bastion of humanity in the Zombie Apocalypse. According to the ZSG people have been dealing with zombies since the Roman empire. So the framers probably put the second ammendment in there not to keep the British out of their face but for the inevitable Zombie Apocalypse.
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SilverMK2 wrote:
KingCracker wrote:Also, when it comes to arguing about guns, its silly to bring America into it. If you dont like the low gun count in your country, then move out of it. Our borders are pretty easy to get through, just ask our southern neighbors
Yes, because availability of guns is the primary thing I look for in a country to live
Besides which, we are not complaining about there "not being enough guns", we are complaining that the ZSG was too gun/American focused
Ya, generally when the commonwealth folks talk about how Americans have enough guns to arm their babies with M-16s it wasn't meant as a compliment.
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Hey you non Americans can say what you want, but when the proverbial gak hits the fan, we all know where youll come for your post apocalyptic weapons needs. Remember my Canadian friends, I live in the giant mitten (Michigan if your slowed and lost that one in translation) and Ill be glad to serve all your boomstick needs
We can caulk that up as the first sales pitch for arms dealers in the future
So you're a hand to hand specialist now, thus increasing the likelihood one of the buggers is going to bite you? Just get in a car, preferable a double dooley with big bumpers. You'll never worry about a zombie again.
Also guns have finite ammo.
Only in canada.
Fighting a Zombie is not a Kung Fu movie. Zombies move at a "shambling" pace and are quite slow. Hence you can just go ahead and hit them in the head with a hammer. The main thing that's stressed is to stay calm and keep you wits about you..
Automatically Appended Next Post: As for the American centric view. The top two zombie killing weapons are The Katana Blade and the Shoalin Spade. Last place on the list was the M-16.
Again, this tome of idiocy gives amazingly bad advice.
Everyone knows Zombies are slow until they get into range. Hitting them with a hammer is very close biting range. Meanwhile a simple .22 long rifle round, best used for squirrels, is easily applicable from the top of Robot Lincoln or failing a lack of robot Lincolns, and ice cream truck. Why an ice cream truck you ask? Because nobody, not even zombies, would expect anything bad happening when the ice cream man comes. Ice Cream Ice Cream!
For more fun filled entertainment. Get a pick up truck. Get you a hand supply of bats and two by fours. have someone drive maybe 15-20 miles and hour. have another person in the back. Swing for the fences baby.
Plus you can spring the sexual deviants that often come with the ice cream trucks on the zombies
Frazzled wrote: Son, you've never been to a Texas afternoon shootout. 6bn rounds-no problem!
Plus considering all of the freaking amazing Texas gunmen out there, I don't even really need a weapon! Good thing I live in Texas. Yeah it's Austin, but there's still gun shops galore.
I do like the idea of a pick-up truck with people in the back wielding baseball bats, though.
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Did I mention that my barber has a gun shop/range attached to his shop? I used to go in there (before I shaved my head all the time) to get a cut, and then look at some artillery. Sometimes I even spent some cash and fired a few guns he had at the shop....... thats why I love America people.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
As long as he doesnt somehow figure out how to load/fire it into a wave of zombies, Im sure itll be a tense moment or two. Unless he just waits them out
My guess (watching in tomoz) Will be in some cliche'd moment, a survivor will temporarily distract them/shoot some of them so he can make a brake for somewhere, only to get lost, only to find help in the most unlikely of forms. This helper will probs be of some ethnic minority, simply cos they don't want a group of survivors (which im sure there will be) to be completely made of angry white southerners.
KingCracker wrote:As long as he doesnt somehow figure out how to load/fire it into a wave of zombies, Im sure itll be a tense moment or two. Unless he just waits them out
Waiting for zombies to go away never works.. ,just look at both versions of Dawn of the Dead...those zeds hung around the outside of the mall for weeks..of course it's not like they have anyplace else to go.
@ ghosty...I Digz...and I definitely think your on the right track concerning the "great tank escape."
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
ghosty wrote:My guess (watching in tomoz) Will be in some cliche'd moment, a survivor will temporarily distract them/shoot some of them so he can make a brake for somewhere, only to get lost, only to find help in the most unlikely of forms. This helper will probs be of some ethnic minority, simply cos they don't want a group of survivors (which im sure there will be) to be completely made of angry white southerners.
Choo dig?
Is it alright that I read that with a super deep Shaft/Black guy voice? I think I even heard some Wakacha wakacha wakacha guitar thing in the background too
FITZZ - Hey I know its never smart to try and wait them out, but I mentioned it only because the guy he met earlier in the show mentioned something about waiting it out and they will go away.
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I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
The top rated weapons were indeed non-American in origin. However, and here I speak as someone who has lived on 3 continents and visited countries in a further 2 - a lot of the less general advice in the book is not all that practical if you don't have guns and lots of ammunition 
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
ing driveway...
,just look at both versions of Dawn of the Dead...those zeds hung around the outside of the mall for weeks..of course it's not like they have anyplace else to go.