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I wonder if theese are the Eldar Ghosts that they talked abuot during the eye of terror campaign,New craft world?Like they mentioned before.

obsidianaura wrote:I'd rather have the Eldar Lynx I saw at Gamesday TBH its more pretty.

It would be all resin, meaning it would carry a vastly higher price for little benefit.

hmm you know i'd love all these new eldar toys, just need to finish off what i have already, - hey only three things, some banshees some warp spiders, - oh whats this, a scorpion... damn you forgeworld! my wallet hates you!

SlaveToDorkness wrote:Very nice looking, I'd use the Warp Hunter for a Fireprism in normal games.

I like this idea. I like this idea alot.

col. krazy kenny wrote:I wonder if theese are the Eldar Ghosts that they talked abuot during the eye of terror campaign,New craft world?Like they mentioned before.

I'm pretty sure that was a Craftworld that returned from the EoT alongside Maugan Ra - Altansar

I am so glad I saved some Christmas money. The Shadow Spectres look awesome!

Anyone else notice their jetpack rule is written really weird?

And man those spectres' rules are BAD, I would say counts-as reapers or hawks but...you know

Counts as fire dragons!

All the ghost shots should be TL anyway and cynosure should let them longfang split their fire and there should be no "all or nothing" restriction on the combined shots.

I love the Warp Hunter, it looks awesome, sort of love it the same way I did the first time I saw a Leman Russ Tank Destroyer.

Got to have one at some point.

Not so sold on the Spectres, not sure what it is I don't like about them mind.

Would have rather FW had stepped on GW's toes and done varient Warp Spiders myself.

I love the spectres, am concidering picking some up for my Biel-tan army (fits right in the fluff)

Call me crazy if you like, but if I had the money (I don't have enough for more GWS models, let alone FW) I would love to pick up a set of Spectres for Dark Eldar Scourge conversions. By the time I have enough money to do so, they'll probably release completely amazing (if they stay true to concept art in the codex...) Scourge models by then. Maybe a distant future project? Sigh.

Yeah they would make awesome proxies for a good unit.

MikeMcSomething wrote:Anyone else notice their jetpack rule is written really weird?

And man those spectres' rules are BAD, I would say counts-as reapers or hawks but...you know

Counts as fire dragons!

All the ghost shots should be TL anyway and cynosure should let them longfang split their fire and there should be no "all or nothing" restriction on the combined shots.

Why should they be counts as hawks?

Warwick has stated in conversation, and it has always been acknowledged that they would be an anti-tank unit.

Captain Jack wrote:

It could all still work, but only if Wave Serpants stopped performing so poorly. If I could get Holo Fields on a WS then life would be pretty again and my FoC would not be so cluttered. I've ordered them any way as they are superb in the flesh, but am unsure as to how I can fit them into my 2000 points list.

You must be doing something wrong if your serpents are performing so poorly. At least half of mine will usually manage to make it through a game largely intact. The only complaint about their performance I really have is my inability to hit with a twin-linked bright lance. I swear that thing hates me for some reason. Even with the re-roll I can't ever get a shot off.

And I think the Lynx (mini-cobra) is a small superheavy. 2 structure point kinda deal (like the Macharius/Malcador). Its certainly larger than a falcon chassis vehicle.

Holy feth!! How have I missed this! I have been waiting eagerly since I first saw the pics on here a while back. I don't care if the rules meant that they fired flowers at the enemy, I'd still field them, cos their so damn cool. IMO anyway.

Fair point about the lack of Heavy Spt choices and too many units though. Oh well.

EDIT: just noticed that the warp hunter is sporting the same colours I was thinking of doing my new craftworld in. Not sure if I'm happy about that or not.

chaos0xomega wrote:You must be doing something wrong if your serpents are performing so poorly. At least half of mine will usually manage to make it through a game largely intact. The only complaint about their performance I really have is my inability to hit with a twin-linked bright lance. I swear that thing hates me for some reason. Even with the re-roll I can't ever get a shot off.

Deffinately, though I can't determine what . The same mini (magnets are helpfull) working in a similar roll in the list and the WS get ravaged and the the Falcs come away smelling of roses. TBH, am learning and modifying the list as I go so I shouldn't be so harsh

Use the Warp Hunter as Fire Prism and the Spectres as Warp Spiders or Fire Dragons and forget the rules

Does it seem somewhat strange that the Shadow Spectres are HS? I mean they have jump packs, resillient, they seem more an elite slot to make them more accessible.

One thing that also bugs me is that the rocks seem somewhat...out of place. I mean theyout of place. With the harlequins everything fitted together perfectly, and i would sacrifice options if they made the bases/leags fit together more stable.

Ehsteve wrote:Does it seem somewhat strange that the Shadow Spectres are HS? I mean they have jump packs, resillient, they seem more an elite slot to make them more accessible.

One thing that also bugs me is that the rocks seem somewhat...out of place. I mean theyout of place. With the harlequins everything fitted together perfectly, and i would sacrifice options if they made the bases/leags fit together more stable.

Yeah the rocks are buggin' me, I'm pondering cutting them off so I can mount these things onto the microart studios craftworld bases.

And no, not really odd at all. While they probably are more of an elite choice, there are already 3 elite aspects + wraithguard + harlequins. Its nearly as full as the heavy section. But the Jet packs aren't there for mobility, so much as defensive capability w/ the JSJ maneuver.

Goliath wrote:

MikeMcSomething wrote:Anyone else notice their jetpack rule is written really weird?

And man those spectres' rules are BAD, I would say counts-as reapers or hawks but...you know

Counts as fire dragons!

All the ghost shots should be TL anyway and cynosure should let them longfang split their fire and there should be no "all or nothing" restriction on the combined shots.

Why should they be counts as hawks?

Warwick has stated in conversation, and it has always been acknowledged that they would be an anti-tank unit.

How did you read my post and get "They should be swooping hawks" ?

Ehsteve wrote:
One thing that also bugs me is that the rocks seem somewhat...out of place. I mean they're out of place. With the harlequins everything fitted together perfectly, and i would sacrifice options if they made the bases/legs fit together more stable.

Well, considering IA11 is supposed to be taking place in the ruins of a ruined Eldar planet...
I think the ruins the Spectres are floating on make a kind of sense.

I apologize for my terrible grammar in the post before, rushing to get out the door

I have no issue with the fluff, they have some awesome backstory potential and I have good confidence FW will put it to good use. My issue is that it looks wrong. You can have ruins, just that aesthetically...it looks thrown together at the last minute. Each model by itself (both ruins and shadow spectres) looks awesome, but the way they are put together simply doesn't correspond. Harlequins you could slot into the base and pin in the case of the troope master, but these...I am hesitant.

Beautiful centrepieces, but not very practical. That does not mean that I would not buy them had I the money or the time to paint them, simply that it will take a lot of effort to stabilize, safely store and transport said models, even moreso than my hazard suits with lots of delicate pieces such as the pea-sized elbow joint designed to hold the entire weight of the weapon and paper-thin stabilizer fin joints.

They would make perfect counts-as fire dragons I highly agree.

Oh and I have to say, the D-Cannon is possibly the most awesome named weapon the Eldar have ever had. That and the awesome rules at the current moment.

The Warp Hunter's rules almost make me want to start an Eldar Army!

AlexHolker wrote:

obsidianaura wrote:I'd rather have the Eldar Lynx I saw at Gamesday TBH its more pretty.

It would be all resin, meaning it would carry a vastly higher price for little benefit.

I wasn't saying that it made economic sense, just that'd I'd like to have that more as its prettier.

My Guess is the Lynx will cost abouy £55/65 on release.

Strange that the Lynx was shown at gamesday and not released yet but this new thing wasn't there but is now being released

Maby this is the lynx?

they look a bit similar...

The problem in regards to the rocks I would think is due to the apparent fragility of resin models and their thin/probably weak flowing capes.

Although, yes, the rocks are a bit big, they are there to solve a problem in the basing of the models. Whilst a small flying base would've done, the rocks compensate for the apparent fragility of resin whilst allowing the model to still seem ghostly/smooth/flowing/floating.

As far as the rock bases go, I'm thinking of putting them on wire stands like they have in the last 2 pictures on FW.

I figure I can always use the rocks for terrain.

These look sweet! Kind of feel like starting some Eldar now. Hmmm we shal see.

Sol Invictus wrote:As far as the rock bases go, I'm thinking I'm of putting them on wire stands like they have in the last 2 pictures on FW.

I figure I can always use the rocks for terrain.

I think this is my answer too. I can make a wire base that bypasses the tabards and remove the weak point there and the chance of snapping. Drill directly into the bodies and leave the tabards free-hanging.

FM Ninja 048 wrote:Maby this is the lynx?

they look a bit similar...

Yes slightly similar, but I was at gamesday and saw it maybe the picture doesn't make it clear but the whole back body of the tank is different.

It's like the transportation section has been cut away.

The Lynx was a solid resin build, the hunter is almost certainly an upgrade kit to a falcon/prism.

Plus it was armed with a Pulsar, and the hunter has a D-cannon if I'm gonna nitpick

obsidianaura wrote:
Yes slightly similar, but I was at gamesday and saw it maybe the picture doesn't make it clear but the whole back body of the tank is different.

It's like the transportation section has been cut away.

The Lynx was a solid resin build, the hunter is almost certainly an upgrade kit to a falcon/prism.

Plus it was armed with a Pulsar, and the hunter has a D-cannon if I'm gonna nitpick

true, and just checked FW, Warp hunter is hybrid