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I like everything about these new Ogres.

The monsters help each army have a centerpiece or focal point and are a welcome treat to paint! Without them each army becomes a sea of little dudes visually.

The design is amazing...they look fresh and have their own aesthetic to help them stand apart from the other wfb armies.

I'm very glad the went with normal skin tones...looks better IMO than the previous grey tones.

Yeah, I have to agree there, much prefer the human skintones, makes more sense for Maneaters as well.

I was just wondering earlier, as when Ogres came out, GW where treating the grey skin tone as if it was 'new Coke' for Fantasy.

NAVARRO wrote:

jojo_monkey_boy wrote:

NAVARRO wrote:Some nice bitz there but monstherhammer is getting silly.

Why else would you play Warhammer Fantasy Battles?

Sarcasm?

No, I don't think so. WFB always had big stuff like dragons, shaggoths, mammoths and living castles floating in the sky, it just never had the tech to make them in miniature form. Now that GW have the tech people are complaining we're given the option to play with those big critters. If you're a casual gamer, skip the beasts. If you're competitive and need the monsters to win and still don't like them, maybe you're in the wrong demographic.

I'd like to make it perfectly clear though that I'm all in favor of balanced rules and Hydra casus avoidance.

Not what I was expecting, I'm assuming the lower of the two massive things is a Mammox, I would have preferred the ogres to have leadbelcher cannons rather than a whip and crossbow but otherwise both it and the Stonehorn look great

The Cannon is interesting, I think it looks like something that could be an epic conversion if it was held by a giant. The scraplauncher has a wiff of Plagueclaw Catapult, kinda like they wanted a kit to be assembled two ways, designed the cannon part and kinda cobbled the catapault together at the last minute. (The cannon also looks like it has a little Chaos Dwarf ass-cannon in it)

The Rhinox Riders (I think) aren't that good, honestly I'm gonna save up and get the FW ones instead. The creatures look more like Thunderwolves from Space Wolves than Rhinoxes and the riders look kinda spindly. If their not Rhinoxes it'll be better IMO, and given that their nothing like the other Rhinoxes, thats a possiblity

Skewer Slingers seemed to be an incorrect rumor, and I don't see new Yhetees, though they might still be there, same with Jahred The Red on Rhinox, Golgfag Maneater and the other Finecast models

Just thought on, looks to me like the Mammox ? and the Stonehorn, come from the same kit as they have the same body.
Unless the Mammox is an extra conversion kit that might make more sense, really.

Yes, like anything in Warhammer, these beasties are optional, although that argument is dependent on your gaming group also steering clear of the big stuff.

And to be fair, Ogres were conceived as THE monster army.

I see maybe potentially suitable plastic Hellcannon conversion possibilities

I think they're all pretty epic - it's good to see GW's 'secrecy' policy in full effect once again

Ogre players should be pretty happy with these

Well I for one think they look wicked

I don't quite understand this one:



Does it have two set of tusks?

And a chin tusk-beard as well.

It has

1. A pair of small tusks
2. A pair of giant tusks
3. A chin Horn/Tusk
4. A Forehead Horn
-Which also have two smaller horns curving down
5. A chair, made out of horns

Horns for the horn god! Tusks for the tusk throne!

It is very peculiar indeed.

How does it eat? How does it get the food to it's mouth/maw?

I thought the "thing" in the middle was a trunk at first, but I am not so sure what it is now. Even if it was a trunk it is too short to ever reach anything with all the tusks in the way.

Mmmm very ... errr .... horny

I wasn't aware that Victorias Secret made Push Up Gutplates.

He doesn't have two sets of tusks. Those big, curvy things are horns since they clearly don't come out of his mouth.

I guess it would have been better if the bony plates on the horns extended all the way up to the head crest. The fur there doesn't really make sense at this angle.

TBD wrote:How does it eat? How does it get the food to it's mouth/maw?

In fantasy nothing needs to eat! Unless you're an ogre

So much win so little money.
Wonder if the mumak head will fit this?

I like everything but the big beasties are not how i had imagined they would be , I wanted mammoths and bears and alike , but these don't look ogre-y.The rhinoxes look alright though.

Monsterhammer is kind of awesome.

This kind of thing is why I have a Mumak for a game I don't play.

I also like to say Mumak.

Mumak!

His Master's Voice wrote:

NAVARRO wrote:

jojo_monkey_boy wrote:

NAVARRO wrote:Some nice bitz there but monstherhammer is getting silly.

Why else would you play Warhammer Fantasy Battles?

Sarcasm?

No, I don't think so. WFB always had big stuff like dragons, shaggoths, mammoths and living castles floating in the sky, it just never had the tech to make them in miniature form. Now that GW have the tech people are complaining we're given the option to play with those big critters. If you're a casual gamer, skip the beasts. If you're competitive and need the monsters to win and still don't like them, maybe you're in the wrong demographic.

I'd like to make it perfectly clear though that I'm all in favor of balanced rules and Hydra casus avoidance.

I'm not complaining that people have the option to field a monster that has always been present in WFB, and Im not even complaining the monster love parade I'm just pointing out that the fact every army gets exactly a big kit each update that doubles in 2 versions of a monster is a silly formula... some armies should have plenty of monsters others not so much but when something becomes the standart of every army its no longer a intersting fun option and becomes broken boring... one two or tree arachnocks on every army against 2 other army monsters becomes silly and adulterated way of how I envision warhammer.
As for needing something I dont like thats not even a option, 1st thing for me is cool models, the rules and companies are lateral to my enjoyment.

I dont know how I feel about this...

Why didn't GW give us Rhnox Riders? Instead we get big cat (sabertusk?) cavalry, seems kind of stupid to throw out one of the armies most favored units (which wasn't even in the army book in the first place), especially considering we now have what appears to be rhinox plastics galore...

And the mammox/stonehorn thing seems kinda on the small side, especially compared to some of the recent big beasties...

The tusks across the board look excessively angular to me, like they're going for a Blizzard aesthetic.

That said i do like them and absolutely cant wait to start cutting them to pieces.

malfred wrote:Monsterhammer is kind of awesome.

This kind of thing is why I have a Mumak for a game I don't play.

I also like to say Mumak.

Mumak!

You should change your name to Mumak then

Anyone else notice that those pics look like they came from an army book...?

chaos0xomega wrote:Anyone else notice that those pics look like they came from an army book...?

Most definitely, especially the flavor text on the Stonehorn.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Why didn't GW give us Rhnox Riders? Instead we get big cat (sabertusk?) cavalry, seems kind of stupid to throw out one of the armies most favored units (which wasn't even in the army book in the first place)

How did they throw them out if they were never in? In all seriousness, they probably did it because the FW ones sell well and they didn't want to make them redundant.

And the mammox/stonehorn thing seems kinda on the small side, especially compared to some of the recent big beasties...

Did you notice it's on a 100x150 base?

Yeah, but compare it to an arachnorok (sp?) which pretty much fills the base compared to these things which don't.

As for the Rhinox Riders, they had official rules released via White Dwarf years ago and were used by pretty much everyone and their fifth cousin. The fact that FW ones sell well is neither here nor there, consider how many other FW kits have made it into plastic. Theres also the fact that rumor mongers are saying there are no rules for Rhinox Riders in the book, which is a pretty big F-U from GW, and the rumors are cat cavalry is not nearly as good as Bull Rhinox Riders were.

NAVARRO wrote:I'm not complaining that people have the option to field a monster that has always been present in WFB, and Im not even complaining the monster love parade I'm just pointing out that the fact every army gets exactly a big kit each update that doubles in 2 versions of a monster is a silly formula... some armies should have plenty of monsters others not so much but when something becomes the standart of every army its no longer a intersting fun option and becomes broken boring... one two or tree arachnocks on every army against 2 other army monsters becomes silly and adulterated way of how I envision warhammer.
As for needing something I dont like thats not even a option, 1st thing for me is cool models, the rules and companies are lateral to my enjoyment.

Well, I'm not an expert with this whole "tactics"-thing some of you WHFB players have going on, but if I had, let's say, an Ork & Goblin army, I'd try to field the big spider only when I would also field a bunch of forest goblins so it would make sense from a fluff and asthetic point of view.

FearPeteySodes wrote:The tusks across the board look excessively angular to me, like they're going for a Blizzard aesthetic.

That said i do like them and absolutely cant wait to start cutting them to pieces.

Hey Pete, I didn't know you we're still around. Any new projects I should know about?


Back on topic: The horn overkill is just, well... overkill. And I don't like the cat cavalery. Really seems like a midded opportunity not to do Rhinox Riders. Though I expect one box with that cannon/scraplauncher will be cheaper than a Forgeworld Rhinox.

TBD wrote:

malfred wrote:Monsterhammer is kind of awesome.

This kind of thing is why I have a Mumak for a game I don't play.

I also like to say Mumak.

Mumak!

You should change your name to Mumak then

Yeah, but when would malfred ever get to say his own name?