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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 19:53:06
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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I was thinking Blizzard too with the shape of those tusks.
So blizzard copied off GW who is copying off blizzard? The circle is now complete.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 19:55:53
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Necros wrote:So blizzard copied off GW who is copying off blizzard? The circle is now complete.
But who is the master? (sorry, deep rooted need to complete all star wars quotes)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 20:00:46
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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FearPeteySodes wrote:The tusks across the board look excessively angular to me, like they're going for a Blizzard aesthetic.
It's not exactly Blizzard's aesthetic, more like low poly one. Most games designed to run on low end machines adopt that kind of thing, vide Tochlight.
I guess they went for the edgy look to make them rough-cut in the extreme. A mammoth just wouldn't cut it when it's just a large cuddly elephant.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 20:16:29
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Kirasu wrote:Scrap Launcha - This seems to fail in all of the ways the Cannon succeeded, which is odd because they look like variations of the same kit. It just looks like a chaotic mish-mash, and not in a good way. The old Scrap Launcha looked like a giant mess as well, but because the boring old details that held it together were boring old details like wood planks, the eye had boring bits to rest in and pull all of the mad little details together. The new kit is nothing but mad little details that simultaneously call for examination and in the end I don't feel like I examine anything. I would love to see the winding mechanism that allows all the knoblars to reset their enormous catapult. Speaking of gnoblars, kits like this succeed and fail in part by how well the gnoblars support the chaos of it all. These gnoblars look like there was an attempt made to make them "wacky" but it just looks off. Particularly the on who is holding a hammer? What's going on? Why is he precariously perched on one foot without looking like any of his weight is shifted to that foot? - C-
All I see is "Its in plastic and not metal".. Right there auto-win
/agree I own two SL's currently, both are unassembled, one used to be, then I actually played with it, and bits just kept falling off. This new kit, whic I absolutely love the look of, looks MUCH better thought out with real anchor points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 20:34:23
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
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I think it's a tossup between the Boar Riders and Ironblaster cannon as to which one looks worse.
The Tusk Monster of Tusky Tuskiness nudges his way into third place. IT'S GOT TUSKS MAN!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 20:44:00
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Fixture of Dakka
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I'll probably pass on the big monster, it just screams "Hey! Shoot me with a cannon!" and there are too many dwarf and empire armies around my neck of the woods..
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Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others; Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 21:10:12
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
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I'm so glad I just got into ogres. it's gonna be AWESOME.
I foresee a month of me not eating tbh
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 21:21:58
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Foxy Wildborne
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Killamop wrote:I'm so glad I just got into ogres. it's gonna be AWESOME.
I foresee a month of me not eating tbh 
But that's BLASPHEMY to the Ogres!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 21:28:37
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I saw those pics, and I'd jizzed in my pants.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 21:40:28
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Solahma
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Mr Mystery wrote:I saw those pics, and I'd jizzed in my pants.
You saw them and had jizzed in your pants? That's an odd use of tense. I'm glad people are liking these models but they seem a bit spindly looking to convey "big solid mean ogre brutes" to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 21:55:57
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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You know, looking more closely at the catox riders, it appears that the horn thingy that is sticking out behind the riders is in fact a horn growing out of the catoxes spine. If you look carefully, you can see what appears to be the horn going into the back of the catox between the riders legs...
If that really is the case, I'm liking them even less than before...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 22:17:58
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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chaos0xomega wrote:You know, looking more closely at the catox riders, it appears that the horn thingy that is sticking out behind the riders is in fact a horn growing out of the catoxes spine. If you look carefully, you can see what appears to be the horn going into the back of the catox between the riders legs...
If that really is the case, I'm liking them even less than before...
You sure? To me, it looks like they've got a harness in front of the shoulders, with a bar extending backwards from the top that forms the basis of the saddle.
Still ugly and top-heavy, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 22:28:13
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I really dig all the new minis other than the cat-rider-thingamabobs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 22:31:51
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Wraith
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Those are some truly awesome looking monsters. I love 'em.
Too bad they will be cannon'ed in the face immediately and a complete waste of ~200 points.
And sell for roughly the equivalent of a human kidney on the black market Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, also, how's that rumor leak control working out for you, GW?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 23:06:28
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Better than you might think? Deliberate leaking is one thing...and this is AFTER WD has announced their month of release....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 23:22:45
Subject: Re:Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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I really love the stonehorn/mammoth kit. I'm a little meh on the rhinox. The rhinox look a little small for the riders, and the cannon on the chariot is a little over the top.
I'm impressed enough that I'm rethinking whether or not to continue not buying GW product. Damn, they always lure me back in with new candy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 23:23:41
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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3 for 3 Grotsnik - every single one has appeared online weeks in advance of it appearing on GW’s site. It can’t all be deliberate, because deliberately leaking each release one after the other kinda defeats the purpose of leaking.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 01:38:30
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Rifleman Grey Knight Venerable Dreadnought
Realm of Hobby
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H.B.M.C. wrote:3 for 3 Grotsnik - every single one has appeared online weeks in advance of it appearing on GW’s site. It can’t all be deliberate, because deliberately leaking each release one after the other kinda defeats the purpose of leaking.
Beat me to it!
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We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)
Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid  Since i avoid bushlands that is
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 01:44:40
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Stubborn White Lion
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Maybe its a herbivore and therefore only eats from trees so not needing to put its head near the ground.... good one ogres.... ride a big scary monster in to battle.... that eats leaves.... but even though that creature looks like it should starve to death, I love the whole lot of them xD
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 02:02:10
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Well, I can't imagine rhinoxen being carnivores...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 02:30:30
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Mighty Gouge-Horn
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My ogre buddy just sent GW a 'I love you Letter' that would make his girlfriend jealous. I may have to buy some of that just for me
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D.O.O.M.F.A.R.T's 30th man!
Red_Zeke wrote:Now if your theme, is Hans, the arch-lector, who likes taking out the war altar to go watch his steam tank race around, while shooting off 3 cannons and 3 mortars for a fireworks display, it gets a little iffy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 03:49:35
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Dankhold Troggoth
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Wow, I finally just caught up on this thread and saw all the pics. I am really impressed!
However, I'm also slightly sad. Although I'm glad Salvage & company are getting new toys... this consistent release of monsters, as Navarro was describing, is a bummer... for me it's mostly because I run a "Monster Mash" army that's looking less and less unique!
I can also assure people that, for the most part, these large monsters are not going to be all that useful in-game... mine die very consistently in 8th edition without killing hardly anything back. Monstrous Infantry, on the other hand, are quite good (i.e. regular ogres) by comparison.
Maybe if they give them really high toughness, or better, a ward save...
But kudos for going kind of out there on the models, GW! They might get more bite on these for just how far they took them, whereas the O&G releases seemed redundant and unecessary, besides the giant spider... mostly just trying to sell new models ("savage" instead of regular orcs).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 03:51:09
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Lord of the Fleet
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Mantle wrote:.... ride a big scary monster in to battle.... that eats leaves....
Herbivores tend to be much larger though than carnivores though, and tend to be just as scary!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 04:15:19
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Ruthless Interrogator
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H.B.M.C. wrote:3 for 3 Grotsnik - every single one has appeared online weeks in advance of it appearing on GW’s site. It can’t all be deliberate, because deliberately leaking each release one after the other kinda defeats the purpose of leaking.
I think there's a pretty good chance it is deliberate. They can "leak" photos a month or so in advance with high quality images and get people excited when they decide to.
I don't play WFB but I think all these monster releases are amazing. I want to turn that Stonehorn into some amazing Khorne super juggernaught daemon engine thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 04:20:13
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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Herbivores tend to be much larger though than carnivores though, and tend to be just as scary!
They also tend to be more dangerous to humans and kill more of them than carnivores each year. In Africa, hippos (another pachyderm like rhinos and elephants) kill more humans each year than crocodiles. They are huge and bad-tempered highly territorial animals. In North America. pronghorns (e.g. deer, elk, moose) usually kill the most humans annually. Get too close to a stag, especially during their "angry time" while competing for mates and you'll likely not finish that army of models you were painting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 04:23:50
Subject: Re:Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Stubborn Hammerer
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One thing I have to say is that most of these models just look too busy for their own good, there are bolts here and plates of metal there...it's more of a mess than a cool jury-rig like they had going with the metal scrap launcher.
I guess the new thing in the OK army is horns, lots and lots of horns.
Don't know why the models just can't sit on the mount, rather they have to have these over-elaborate and useless saddles which only serve to make the model look both impractical on top of being physically impractical to transport. I can see many OK models being knocked over during a battle. Another thing: why all the sharp bits? I stab myself in the finger enough with a hobby knife in general use. Why now must I suffer through this torture when not only building but painting the damn thing?
All that said, love the mammox, it's got all that yhetee appeal while looking fresh.
I guess the main issue with the aesthetic they're trying to reinvent the OK with is: it looks too intricate for a simple army. They're trying to polish the proverbial turd - Not that I dislike OK, love the tongue-in-cheek writing and general shenanigans, just that they're sticking armour plates left right and centre on a perfectly fine model and calling it a day. I would like to see that cannon or that mammox without shields being randomly thrown over non-vital areas.
I do see a lot of chaos conversions coming from these models though, fantasy and otherwise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 04:38:34
Subject: Re:Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Nasty Nob
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I agree (with some posters) that these look very busy, very visually confused, and extremely 'complex' for an army of big, lumbering simpletons. It's been all right for me that the Gnoblars have complex, impractical thingamabobs, but it really hurts the look of the ogres, in my opinion.
I don't really hate any of them, but I don't see any that I like. Given that the OK book specifically mentions rhinoxen and mammoths, and given that Forgeworld already produced both really nice, really unique looking Rhinox AND a great looking Mammoth, why invent a ton of new monsters? You did resin Rhinoxen, you are now doing plastic Rhinox, but you don't do plastic Rhinox riders? You have a great looking War Mammoth, so you instead create TWO new creatures that are roughly mammoth sized and have tusks? Why not do a War Mammoth for OK?
I'm very disappointed with most of these new releases, because I think a good plastic Mammoth and a good set of Rhinox Riders in plastic would have been a better looking, more iconic choice. I'm not opposed to big monsters, but it seems like they are cranking out big monsters for the sake of big monsters. At least I can save some money.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 04:53:47
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Noble of the Alter Kindred
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Sorry
They look silly to me
Too much like they have escaped from Ice Age III or some such digital animation
Like the concepts but the execution is let down by the stylisation, the ridiculously skinny waists of the beasts (you are supposed to feed your warbeasts you silly ogres) and the small size of the Rhinnox.
The last point ruins the cannon for me.
Agree with comments about the over busy detailing. Also thought it makes them look fussy and confused.
Apologies again for being negative. But am so used to seeing fine scultures that the overstylisation and cartoon appearance does nowt for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 04:57:39
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Big Fat Gospel of Menoth
The other side of the internet
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I must say the sabertusk cavalry really surprised me.
Over all a new twist to the aesthetics of ogres and while they were not what I was expecting, I like them.
And Chibi, ogres can't feed their beasts, how would they be able to eat everything if they let other things eat too?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 05:01:44
Subject: Small note for upcomming Ogre Kingdoms/pictures on page 3.
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Noble of the Alter Kindred
United Kingdom
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Poor things having their fodder knicked! It ain't right.
Am going to report GW to the RSPCA
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