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2016/07/01 16:18:31
Subject: On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Ghastly Grave Guard
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I think it looks a lot better and I do it with all of mine now, though I didn't always. Mucking up a barrel is always a fear and it's happened to me a few times. Bolters and bolt pistols aren't a big deal but rarer weapons like combi-meltas really hurt when you bugger the whole thing up with the drill.
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2016/07/02 03:20:31
Subject: On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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I've drilled out some Heavy Bolters with just a drill bit (no handle, I still have cramps) so if you don't want to take a rediculous amount of time drilling every barrel in your army, I don't blame you at all. Just paint the tip black and voila.
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2016/07/02 05:28:22
Subject: On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Flashy Flashgitz
Armageddon
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I've seen too many barrels break over time because of it. I dont want that to happen to my minis. If its aint broke, dont drill a hole in it.
To many people here are too uppity and annoying about it though. I've had numerous experiences where I'm at a game store, showing off my cool newly painted (to a good standard) model, and some guy walks up, looks at it and says "drill out the barrels" Like no comment on the paint job or conversion work buddy? This has happened like 5 times already.
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2016/07/02 07:56:25
Subject: Re:On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Douglas Bader
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Always drilled, at least on weapons that should have gun barrels as opposed to lenses/invisibly tiny holes/etc. A model with un-drilled barrels looks like , and takes a trivial amount of effort to fix the problem.
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2016/07/02 18:16:24
Subject: Re:On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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Peregrine wrote:Always drilled, at least on weapons that should have gun barrels as opposed to lenses/invisibly tiny holes/etc. A model with un-drilled barrels looks like , and takes a trivial amount of effort to fix the problem.
A model with an off centre drilled barrel looks even more IMO I'm OCD when it comes to things that should be circular and concentric being slightly off, I have a pretty good eye for such things, so I tend to not drill my barrels because I can't live up to my own standards Many gun barrels on miniatures aren't perfectly circular when they're cast, so even if you drill a perfect hole in them, it simply highlights that the gun itself wasn't circular to begin with. The times I have drilled barrels and been happy with the results, I wouldn't describe it as a trivial amount of effort. I voted "I dont think it is important", though I do think models with perfectly drilled barrels look better, I err on the side of it not being worth the effort. On a display model it's necessary to have hollow barrels, but that may very well be achieved by replacing the entire barrel. For model tanks, aircraft and ships there's a niche market of people making machined metal barrels to replace the plastic ones that come in kits as it makes sense if you have a display model that you're putting several hundred hours in to that the gun barrels are perfect and the best way to ensure that is have them machined out of metal.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/07/02 18:19:29
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2016/07/17 08:43:48
Subject: Re:On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'd drill the barrels for all of my models if I had the correct tools. Sadly I don't have them as of yet
Personally I voted yes in the poll, but I've never really been so attentive to a model that I'm looking at that I check any weapon barrels to see if they've been drilled.
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2016/11/05 13:09:52
Subject: On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
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I do it on all of my own models (including metals), but I'm not bothered if others don't.
The biggest problem is that the ends of gun barrels are often very awkward places for getting the drill dead centre; so while I personally don't like to see my own models without drilled gun barrels, seeing them with off-centre holes is just as bad (worse even, as they're nothing to do about if you don't have a spare).
Fortunately on plastic it's fairly easy to mark the centre as a guide, but metal's a lot harder and I still have a ton of older metal models.
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2016/11/22 09:48:21
Subject: Re:On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Troubled By Non-Compliant Worlds
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Models looks much better when they have have drilled barrels, but a similar effect can be achieved by just painting a black dot on the barrel, and that takes less time and doesn't affect the model's durability in any way.
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2016/12/06 10:48:01
Subject: On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
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I like to see them drilled. Failing that a black dot is OK. I hate to see the end painted gun silver. All my bolter barrels are drilled.
TIP. You don't need a drill to drill out the end of a gun. I am talking boltgun size and up in plastic.
Just take a 1mm drill bit and twist with your fingers. Works great.
For metal. I wedge the 1mm drill bit in my scalpel handle for that extra torque.
Cheers, Vim
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2016/12/07 14:55:37
Subject: On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Damsel of the Lady
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I honestly never even notice.
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realism is a lie
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2016/12/08 15:20:39
Subject: On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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[DCM]
Moustache-twirling Princeps
Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry
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On the table, yes, barrel holes are usually overlooked.
But, if you showcase your model, the extra effort of drilling shows through.
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2016/12/08 18:40:16
Subject: Re:On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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I personally can not stand the look of a barrel with a huge, flat end. But I also can not stand barrels that are even slightly off center. That's why I drill my bolters before I glue them on and buy some spares to boot.
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2016/12/08 18:42:14
Subject: On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Damsel of the Lady
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Skinnereal wrote:On the table, yes, barrel holes are usually overlooked.
But, if you showcase your model, the extra effort of drilling shows through.
For me, I'm not lying when i say i don't notice it unless someone takes the time to point it out. it definitely does look nice with them drilled, i'll freely admit that. but it doesn't really bother me at all if they aren't
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2017/02/08 19:11:27
Subject: On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Norn Queen
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I drill mine on my nids/necrons. But I don't care about what anyone else does. It stands out more with my armys because the gun itself tends to be a big contrast to the color i pick for tongues/gooey bits. So the inside of the barrel pops. Same with crons. Energy glowy color is different from the bulk of the model. I can see why IoM mostly would be unnoticeable though.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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2017/02/09 20:28:55
Subject: On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Charing Cold One Knight
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I do it if the model doesn't have an indent on the muzzle for the barrel. But even when I do have to drill them out myself, I use a scribe and put a dent in the center of the barrel, than drill just enough to get past the angles on the drill bit.
But, having a pin vise makes it a heck of a lot easier haha. This is mine, it is fairly heavy, so I just hold the barrel vertical and let the weight of the pin vise apply pressure while I twist it.
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2017/03/09 11:14:22
Subject: On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
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Definitely prefer drilled barrels, but I really need to get a better drill; it's fine for plastic and finecast, but I still have a ton of older metal models that I'm stripping and re-painting, and all of them need drilled (lots of them are Storm Bolters too).
That said, when it comes to other people's armies I'm not too snobbish; for me it's more important that an army is painted rather than having drilled out barrels, but even then it doesn't bother me if an army is unpainted if the player knows how to have fun (and doesn't mind reminding me what models are equipped with).
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2017/04/10 10:46:15
Subject: On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Waaagh! Ork Warboss
Italy
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I think it's mandatory I can't stand weapons without the hole. Not only weapons but anything that should have a hole must be drilled IMHO
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2017/04/25 00:28:30
Subject: On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Guardsman with Flashlight
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Do I like to see it? Yes, do I bother myself? Nope.
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2017/04/25 00:34:04
Subject: On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Stalwart Tribune
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Yes, I do that on allmost every model.
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2017/04/26 00:00:02
Subject: On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Sneaky Kommando
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Yes but I have never done it my self
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2017/07/13 15:47:56
Subject: On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Spawn of Chaos
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I drilled my foot slogging wolves out. They looked better for it IMO. I will say, the Scarab Occult kit had combi-Bolters with properly drilled muzzles. (I bout lost my gak over that minor detail.) Hope the trend continues.
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2017/08/14 17:20:04
Subject: On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Stubborn Prosecutor
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I like the idea and love it when the plastic model already has an open barrel. I'm generally not interested in doing the drilling myself. It's just easier to paint black.
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2017/09/15 11:38:31
Subject: On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I always drill the barrels from the side first (if possible) and then the front. As the leader of my FLGS says: "How are your soldiers supposed to shoot if their weapons are blocked?"
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2017/09/15 14:09:17
Subject: On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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I drill heavy bolters and similar large calibre weapons in my IG-army, but rarely all the way to the muzzle holes. Usually 1-2 mm only.
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2017/09/16 19:00:40
Subject: Re:On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Kid_Kyoto
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My GK are drilled out, and I think most of my heavy/special weapons are too. The standard IG aren't though, because i picture lasguns having a final lens at the end of the barrel, not really an open hole. I mean, it's a laser weapon. Only need to have the barrel to begin with is really to give the guy something to sight down and for focal length on any optics involved in the device, kinda like a camera or telescope.
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2018/02/20 13:43:57
Subject: Re:On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Squishy Oil Squig
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2018/02/20 16:23:58
Subject: Re:On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Stubborn Prosecutor
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You can get them from third parties. I 'll have to dig out a pic of mine - in addition to the flare there is a clearly visible furry brown hamster being ejected from the barrel.
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2018/03/21 10:32:34
Subject: On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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I drill plastic barrels, I have misdrilled metal ones in the past and now leave them alone.
I have seen pictures of the metal Dreadnoughts with countersunk auto launchers and want to do it to mine
I’m sure it’s just a pilot hole with a 3mm countersink
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DV8 wrote:Blood Angels Furioso Dreadnought should also be double-fisted.
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2018/03/21 14:29:52
Subject: Re:On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Stubborn Prosecutor
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ChargerIIC wrote:
You can get them from third parties. I 'll have to dig out a pic of mine - in addition to the flare there is a clearly visible furry brown hamster being ejected from the barrel.
Found the pic:
Mother Khador uses only the finest armor piercing hamsters
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2018/03/21 18:52:31
Subject: Re:On models do you like to see drilled/open gun barrels?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I drilled all of my marines' boltguns. A lot of work but worth it!!!
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