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Skits wrote:This thread has given me some new stuff to chew over. And has been highly entertaining for most of the evening, hehehe. Just because you've seen it all before doesn't mean everyone else has.

Still, there is a search function which would answer pretty much everything already stated on this thread

That still wouldn't have been as entertaining.

Skits wrote:That still wouldn't have been as entertaining.

Oh I don't know, you should have a read of some of them.

Kan's definitely a key feature

What makes you think I haven't?

Honestly, if I just wanted to read stuff, I'd go read a wiki. Or, Emperor forbid, an actual book. However, I always thought the point of a forum was to, y'know, interact with people. Share thoughts, bounce ideas around, engage in dialogue, discuss differing points of view, talk with each other. I can't do that in a necro'd thread.

The topic of this thread is, to me, like a giant jigsaw puzzle. One that nobody has the picture to, half the pieces are missing, the rest of the pieces could fit together in multiple ways and still form something of a picture, and the content of gaps could be guessed at by the shapes that the pieces we do have make around them. I've picked up a few new pieces during the discussion here, and I'm always looking for new ways to put them together. I've also quite enjoyed the discussions I've had in this thread so far.

Now, if you've read or participated in threads like this before, there's nothing forcing you to read this one as well. I know I skip over a whole ton of threads because they're not relevant to my particular interests. However, if nobody could make threads that have been made before, or talk about things that have been discussed previously, then this would be a gorram bloody boring forum.

With all that said... it's 2am here and I'm going to bed now. Hopefully I'll be able to continue the discussion in the morning!

This thread has existed before, (I started one myself last year or so), but in my opinion it is ok this new one exists as there have been more hints in the fluff since, and for many the debate will be new.

I highly suggest though that anyone who has been bickering for more than 2 pages repeating themselves ad-nauseum is getting dangerously close to having their posts considered spam and borderline harassment. NO ONE is provably right, therefore all theories or positions are just that, theories. Conduct your discussions as such.

So, one: Thousand Sons and Magnus the Red. They don't suffer the flesh-change because they don't practice sorcery.

[quoteStrike one. Every single member of the Thousand Sons suffered from the flesh-change. Hence why the Legion is almost entirely consistent of suits of animated armor, with the Sorcerers being the only ones who have retained their physical bodies. [quote

The Rubric of Ahriman could worked on the marines outside of the warp and turned to dust the ones inside.

MajorTom11 wrote:This thread has existed before, (I started one myself last year or so), but in my opinion it is ok this new one exists as there have been more hints in the fluff since, and for many the debate will be new.

I highly suggest though that anyone who has been bickering for more than 2 pages repeating themselves ad-nauseum is getting dangerously close to having their posts considered spam and borderline harassment. NO ONE is provably right, therefore all theories or positions are just that, theories. Conduct your discussions as such.

Or to expand upon this a bit:

You are free to discuss and argue this topic until your fingers are just bloody stumps if you want, but you MUST keep the argument focused on the topic and not each other. Also remember that when having arguments about events in a fictitious universe there is no universal truth, as the 'facts' change every time a new piece of fiction is written. So, for example, we can never truly know whether Batman would beat Superman ( ) because that entirely depends upon who would write the story. Some authors would write that batman would win (so he would) and some authors would write that Superman would win (so he would).

In this case, you're trying to deduce an alleged mystery based on 'facts' spread about multiple sources written by multiple authors. You have no idea whether anyone at GW has an answer to the underlying question or whether it is simply intentionally vague. And even if one person knows the answer it doesn't mean that all the other people writing even have knowledge of that fact, so anything they write that seems to allude to your query may simply be a coincidence...or it could be intentional.

So the point is, no matter what, this is your personal opinion based on how you perceive the 'facts' you've read. It is fine to try to convince someone else that they've misinterpreted the 'facts' but at the end of the day it is one person's opinion vs. another person's opinion.

It is therefore fine to say: 'I personally feel you are wrong based on X'. But it is NOT FINE to say: 'you are wrong based on X'.

If you anyone is getting tired of reading the same arguments remember that you always have the choice to not reply and/or not read the thread. And if you're sick of writing the same things over and over again I suggest writing up a treatise on the topic (perhaps even as an article) and then just anytime the topic starts again you can post a link to your thread or article to save you the time and energy of re-typing it out.


So yes, by all means continue the discussion. But please remember that your opinion is your opinion and another person's opinion is their opinion which they are entitled to have. If there is anyone who can't manage to follow that basic code of discussion etiquette then I strongly suggest they refrain from posting any further in this thread (or in threads discussing similar topics).