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You need one flyte for every unit you want to load on to them.

I STILL can't get my head around how the Economy works on this.

As Novgorod, with 5 Merchants in all the CoTs within range and 1 out of range I start with, Trade Rights with everyone I can get them with, during Peacetime, with all my investment in Trade and a lot of Trade buffs, plus an Administrative Government and Trade advisors, I still can't afford more than 5 or so military units without getting a nice fat deficit warning.

This leads me to ask what the hell i'm missing. Is it just my nation of choice? Or am I doing something hellishly wrong, because i'm at around 1407 and I want to know how i'm expected to even get close to some of the treasury values on show in this thread before Muscowy or Lithuania decide they want my country, and flood me with an army I couldn't even hope to match without minting like a madman and spamming units in every province.

It's not that i'm trying to build an army in one go, more that i've got 5 units, and the upkeep of is already burning a hole in my coffers.

I have one flyte for every unit and they will not do anything.

Avatar 720 wrote:I STILL can't get my head around how the Economy works on this.

As Novgorod, with 5 Merchants in all the CoTs within range and 1 out of range I start with, Trade Rights with everyone I can get them with, during Peacetime, with all my investment in Trade and a lot of Trade buffs, plus an Administrative Government and Trade advisors, I still can't afford more than 5 or so military units without getting a nice fat deficit warning.

This leads me to ask what the hell i'm missing. Is it just my nation of choice? Or am I doing something hellishly wrong, because i'm at around 1407 and I want to know how i'm expected to even get close to some of the treasury values on show in this thread before Muscowy or Lithuania decide they want my country, and flood me with an army I couldn't even hope to match without minting like a madman and spamming units in every province.

It's not that i'm trying to build an army in one go, more that i've got 5 units, and the upkeep of is already burning a hole in my coffers.

For a start, Novogorod won't be able to compete at foreign COTs at the start of thee game. Secondly, trade income affects monthly income, wheras you pay for military out of your yearly census. So increase your tax rates using production buildings and you'll see a difference.
And make sure your army is reduced upkeep during times of peace.

Is there actually a tutorial for this? I'm confused to hell

I think so.
http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Main_Page
The eu3 wiki is great, use it.

They won't board if the ships are in the port.
They have to be at sea...

That makes absolutely no sense, surely you can only actually board a ship if it's in port?

corpsesarefun wrote:That makes absolutely no sense, surely you can only actually board a ship if it's in port?

Wel not on a large scale no...
It doesn't make sense but frankly neither does France being able to pull all of Europe into a war solely against me...

They need to be on the water, not in port.

Trying out Denmark now, seems interesting.

Soladrin wrote:They need to be on the water, not in port.

Trying out Denmark now, seems interesting.

Denmark always goes to heck, as I always destroy them en route to a united Germany/Scandinavia/Netherlands.

WarOne wrote:

Soladrin wrote:They need to be on the water, not in port.

Trying out Denmark now, seems interesting.

Denmark always goes to heck, as I always destroy them en route to a united Germany/Scandinavia/Netherlands.

Sure, but if they dont face a human nation, they can do very well.

Put them out to sea and then move them onto the boats.

Dark Scipio wrote:

WarOne wrote:

Soladrin wrote:They need to be on the water, not in port.

Trying out Denmark now, seems interesting.

Denmark always goes to heck, as I always destroy them en route to a united Germany/Scandinavia/Netherlands.

Sure, but if they dont face a human nation, they can do very well.

Not sure about that in the recent expansions/games, as Sweden likes to kick everything around nearby and sometimes gets the chance to form Scandinavia.

Finally got the hang of ships the other day and wiped out half of the native american tribes with the brits last night.

Then my game suddenly ended at 1500, stupid demo.

WarOne wrote:

Dark Scipio wrote:

WarOne wrote:

Soladrin wrote:They need to be on the water, not in port.

Trying out Denmark now, seems interesting.

Denmark always goes to heck, as I always destroy them en route to a united Germany/Scandinavia/Netherlands.

Sure, but if they dont face a human nation, they can do very well.

Not sure about that in the recent expansions/games, as Sweden likes to kick everything around nearby and sometimes gets the chance to form Scandinavia.

I would like to see Sweden more successful, in my games they always go down to Norway or Denmark.

They go down to norway because they get beaten by someone else, usually denmark, and weakened. Unless Sweden is being beaten up by someone else it'll almost always annex norway.
IIRC Denmark's base tax and MP is higher than Sweden's so early game before production and military buildings they will tend to beat sweden (unless sweden has Germanic allies who invade Denmark).

corpsesarefun wrote:
Then my game suddenly ended at 1500, stupid demo.

Someone didn't take their history lessons seriously. IIRC, the entire world gets sucked into a time warp until 1945, when the United States beats Germany to become ruler of the world.

Joey wrote:They go down to norway because they get beaten by someone else, usually denmark, and weakened. Unless Sweden is being beaten up by someone else it'll almost always annex norway.
IIRC Denmark's base tax and MP is higher than Sweden's so early game before production and military buildings they will tend to beat sweden (unless sweden has Germanic allies who invade Denmark).

Indeed, thats the reason Sweden doesnt win often. Although its even worse, because german allies of sweden often are easy prey for denmark.

France and Castille must be the biggest douchebags on this game...

England too if your not playing them mate. They love torturing coastal provinces with their uber fleet.

Soladrin wrote:England too if your not playing them mate. They love torturing coastal provinces with their uber fleet.

Well it is fun... what's your point?

Their at the same level of dickishness as france and castille. Bohemia and Austria are annoying as feth too btw.

I love when Muscovy or Novogrod struggles to become Russia. They try so hard yet get derailed by the horde nations.

Soladrin wrote:Their at the same level of dickishness as france and castille. Bohemia and Austria are annoying as feth too btw.

Nah, if it's England doing it whoever is on the recieving end probably deserves it...
I seem to falling into my old routine on Strategy games of not being aggressive enough...

Soladrin wrote:England too if your not playing them mate. They love torturing coastal provinces with their uber fleet.

England is by far not as annoying as France, Castile or Austria .

Austria as the Emprah and the Pope....

Okay i need tips on economy and such...
Managed to pull of a perfect invasion of Scotland.
They everything fell apart and i couldn't stop it...

Economy- Build tax and production buildings when magistrates are available. Conquer or create centers of trade, and use the sliders to indicate which CoTs your traders go to. Slide your Free Trade bar all the way to the right and make sure to conquer rich provinces as well to get better sources of income.

Damnit that's what i was doing...
Might just do it quicker next time...