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Monster Rain wrote:The most asinine thing I've heard about music is when someone says that "live performances suck" or some variation of that theme.
It signifies pretty much everything I hate about humanity.
ALL live performances don't suck; bands that are used to being autotuned their entire music career who then do a live performance suck.
I HATE most live albums, but there are a handful of them that I like at least as much as the studio albums. The Suburban Legends live album is good, as is Face the Promised Land by Counting Crows.
Well, yeah, I'm not saying that all live performances are good. Not by a long shot.
To me, there's just an energy to a live event that can't be matched on a studio album. Two of my favorite albums of all time are actually live recordings, Live Rust and Get Yer Ya-Ya's out.
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Albatross wrote:How can you say that the Spice Girls were unsuccessful because they were successful as a group, but not as individuals? That makes no sense.
back in the day I would have loved to have spent some solo time with Baby Spice...
Albatross wrote:How can you say that the Spice Girls were unsuccessful because they were successful as a group, but not as individuals? That makes no sense.
back in the day I would have loved to have spent some solo time with Baby Spice...
My cousin has met her. Apparently she's absolutely smoking in real life, and a very nice lady.
Albatross wrote:How can you say that the Spice Girls were unsuccessful because they were successful as a group, but not as individuals? That makes no sense.
back in the day I would have loved to have spent some solo time with Baby Spice...
My cousin has met her. Apparently she's absolutely smoking in real life, and a very nice lady.
Albatross wrote:How can you say that the Spice Girls were unsuccessful because they were successful as a group, but not as individuals? That makes no sense.
I dunno. someone here made a referrence to Lady Gaga as a 'failure' for some reasons so I might use the same reasosn to Judge Spice Girls.
the 'reunion' didn't even last long enough to finalize the concert tour though.
too bad by the time of their heyday, it was the Kylie Minogue's "decline" .. she only made a successful return in 2000 (a big gambit. by then). quite a contrary. it was the end of Spice Girls . as a band.
^Heavily blue screened video^
^Use of Classic filming techniques, with a few digital enhancements. alot more of art^
dunno if this thing contribute to the attitude that Posh Spice had on Kylie Minogue ? a year later there was a big 'catfight match' that lasts two rounds
Albatross wrote:How can you say that the Spice Girls were unsuccessful because they were successful as a group, but not as individuals? That makes no sense.
back in the day I would have loved to have spent some solo time with Baby Spice...
My cousin has met her. Apparently she's absolutely smoking in real life, and a very nice lady.
Lucky.
Not lucky, everyone in the UK knows each other, and usually in the biblical sense.
Albatross himself has enjoyed him some David Beckham, Prince William, and the Queen; all at the same time (incest bonus).
They are all atheistic bisexuals after all.
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Ah the sweetness that is Kylie, I remember her on neighbours. Had the biggist school boy crush on her, hell I wanted to be her. As for her music "meh" not my sort of thing but I will conceed this Confide in me has to be my fav tune of hers. Not bad for a tomboy from Ramsay Street
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Albatross wrote:How can you say that the Spice Girls were unsuccessful because they were successful as a group, but not as individuals? That makes no sense.
back in the day I would have loved to have spent some solo time with Baby Spice...
My cousin has met her. Apparently she's absolutely smoking in real life, and a very nice lady.
Lucky.
Not lucky, everyone in the UK knows each other, and usually in the biblical sense.
Albatross himself has enjoyed him some David Beckham, Prince William, and the Queen; all at the same time (incest bonus).
They are all atheistic bisexuals after all.
Thats why we make all the plastic toy solders every one buys
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Ribon Fox wrote:Ah the sweetness that is Kylie, I remember her on neighbours. Had the biggist school boy crush on her, hell I wanted to be her.
As for her music "meh" not my sort of thing but I will conceed this Confide in me has to be my fav tune of hers. Not bad for a tomboy from Ramsay Street
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Albatross wrote:How can you say that the Spice Girls were unsuccessful because they were successful as a group, but not as individuals? That makes no sense.
back in the day I would have loved to have spent some solo time with Baby Spice...
My cousin has met her. Apparently she's absolutely smoking in real life, and a very nice lady.
Lucky.
Not lucky, everyone in the UK knows each other, and usually in the biblical sense.
Albatross himself has enjoyed him some David Beckham, Prince William, and the Queen; all at the same time (incest bonus).
They are all atheistic bisexuals after all.
*Ahem* Extreme Royalist here.
I shall forgive you this ONCE-next time...... well there better not be a next time.
and what is wrong with Bisexuals? personaly i have no problem with them.
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remilia_scarlet wrote:anything by the insane clown posse or anyone using their record label.
Johnny-Crass wrote:This X 1000
My hatred of Juggleos is limitless
I don't see how thay are a musical failure and think the whole 'Juggalo' fanbase gets a bad rep for no reason. Ok, there may be the exceptions but I have a group of friends who are all Juggalos and are all really awesome, down to earth guys, there is no reason atall for them to be stereotyped into whatever people judge them to be. I think the hatred is a bit of a cliche really.
ICP are a rap band, there are plenty of other rap artists out there, many other bands who wear masks or face-paint and countless bands that have musical content far worse. Fwiw I am myself a big ICP, Twiztid, Dark Lotus, ABK etc fan.
Bloodfever wrote:
I don't see how thay are a musical failure and think the whole 'Juggalo' fanbase gets a bad rep for no reason. Ok, there may be the exceptions but I have a group of friends who are all Juggalos and are all really awesome, down to earth guys, there is no reason atall for them to be stereotyped into whatever people judge them to be. I think the hatred is a bit of a cliche really.
ICP are a rap band, there are plenty of other rap artists out there, many other bands who wear masks or face-paint and countless bands that have musical content far worse. Fwiw I am myself a big ICP, Twiztid, Dark Lotus, ABK etc fan.
The fact that they self-identify with ICP warrants the reputation they receive. Believe it or not, people don't judge you by some magical inner light your mom might think you have. They judge you by the fact that you're listening to vulgar shock music and idolizing clown rappers, at times to disturbing extent. If it looks like a steaming pile, and it smells like a steaming pile, then you're not going to bother to step in for a taste before you decide to label it.
I also hate them because they're science-hating closet Christians.
Bloodfever wrote:
I don't see how thay are a musical failure and think the whole 'Juggalo' fanbase gets a bad rep for no reason. Ok, there may be the exceptions but I have a group of friends who are all Juggalos and are all really awesome, down to earth guys, there is no reason atall for them to be stereotyped into whatever people judge them to be. I think the hatred is a bit of a cliche really.
ICP are a rap band, there are plenty of other rap artists out there, many other bands who wear masks or face-paint and countless bands that have musical content far worse. Fwiw I am myself a big ICP, Twiztid, Dark Lotus, ABK etc fan.
The fact that they self-identify with ICP warrants the reputation they receive. Believe it or not, people don't judge you by some magical inner light your mom might think you have. They judge you by the fact that you're listening to vulgar shock music and idolizing clown rappers, at times to disturbing extent. If it looks like a steaming pile, and it smells like a steaming pile, then you're not going to bother to step in for a taste before you decide to label it.
I also hate them because they're science-hating closet Christians.
It's just bandwagon bullying. They are an easy target and it's 'cool' to hate them so people do. So it's bad to self-identify and feel like part of a community, for lack of a better word?
ICP and other 'juggalo' bands are not the 1st and will not be the last bands to make 'vuglar shock music', alot of metal bands do it ALOT worse but don't get singled out because of it. If people can't handle the content or decide to take it seriously then that's their fault, but it doesn't mean it's bad or wrong.
It's the same as us being stereotyped for wargaming, yes, there may be some that conform to that stereotype, but the vast majority of us do not and do not warrent to be.
Also, they are not 'closet christians', they openly admit they believe in god, and to hate them because of this just makes you a bigot.
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Cobain death = fail because we were subjected to the Foo Fighters, who used to be good but now pump out the same crap every year.
Phil Anselmo+the wrong drugs = fail because he became an even bigger dick and imploded Pantera, the best rock band to come out of the late 80's early 90's.
And of course the death of Dimebag was a music fail for we lost a true great and at least top 20 if not top 10 greatest guitarist of all time (imho) to some bitch who was pissed about Pantera and shot the wrong guy.
Also this happened:
Yes. It really happened.
Veteran Sergeant wrote:Oh wait. His fluff, at this point, has him coming to blows with Lionel, Angryon, Magnus, and The Emprah. One can only assume he went into the Eye of Terror because he still hadn't had a chance to punch enough Primarchs yet.
Albatross wrote:I guess we'll never know. That is, until Frazzled releases his long-awaited solo album 'Touch My Weiner'. Then we'll know.
warboss wrote:I marvel at their ability to shoot the entire foot off with a shotgun instead of pistol shooting individual toes off like most businesses would.
Mr Nobody wrote:Going to war naked always seems like a good idea until someone trips on gravel.
Ghidorah wrote: You need to quit hating and trying to control other haters hating on other people's hobbies that they are trying to control.
ShumaGorath wrote:Posting in a thread where fat nerds who play with toys make fun of fat nerds who wear costumes outdoors.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Good thing it wasn't attacked by the EC, or it would be the assault on Magnir's Crack.
I hate them because they don't like science, not necessarily because of their Christian views. I pity them for their Christian views. There is a difference, and yes, I can spot it from up on my high horse.
And, no, sadly as you say, they're not original. I'm well aware that there have been shock bands both before and after them. I know there is some outright disgusting metal out there. I like some vulgar punk bands. The thing you're missing though is the metal heads might wear a Pantera t-shirt, some chains, and (maybe) some eyeliner, if they're feeling out there. And the more extreme of them, with piercings, ball bearings implanted dermally, and other things are absolutely freak-shows too. They lack branding however. They're not a population.
"Juggalos" get the target painted on them so viciously simply because they're the ones who painted it there. It's branding. They're not a band, they're a lifestyle. Most importantly, they're an EXTREME. You can't compare them to metalheads. You can't compare them to wargamers. Sure, the wargamer evokes the smelly neckbeard stereotype, but that's less true than it ever has been, and the half of us with any sense of humor laugh at it self-depricatingly. As you're proving yourself here, you are actually serious about it. The analogue would be the guy who ACTUALLY THINKS he's a Khorne Berserker and dresses like it every day, reciting hymnals and oaths to the dark gods.
Do this: Google Image Search the following words, and then look at the pictures of human beings. Look at wargamers, and then look at metalheads. First are basically normal guys with a bend toward the nerdy. The second are a bunch of guys with long hair and usually wearing black. I work with people who dress like that, and I have a bigboy job. Now GIS for Juggalo. Now imagine that you're Joe Average, and you see each one of the three walk past. Which one would you have the problem with?
You say that you see no reason for which they receive a bad reputation.
I'd like to think I have provided you with those now. Whether they're legitimate to you or not is immaterial. People will judge you based upon impressions, and if you carry yourself like a freak, that's how you'll be treated.
Lint wrote:
And of course the death of Dimebag was a music fail for we lost a true great and at least top 20 if not top 10 greatest guitarist of all time (imho) to some bitch who was pissed about Pantera and shot the wrong guy.
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Actually he wasn't pissed about Pantera breaking up: he was crazy and thought that the band members could hear his thoughts and that they were laughing at him.
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Lint wrote:Cobain death = fail because we were subjected to the Foo Fighters, who used to be good but now pump out the same crap every year.
who used to be good but now pump out the same crap every year.
pump out the same crap every year.
every year.
Echoes, Silence, Patience and Grace came out in 2007, Wasting Light came out in 2011. Other albums came out in 1995, 1997, 1999, 2002 and 2005. That definitely isn't "Every Year".
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