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dogma wrote:I'm curious as to what you think religious liberty is.

To be perfectly honest, at this stage, I'm really not. We all know more or less the form biccat's answer will take, and we all know that it'll make about as much sense as any of the other conservative positions he's endeavoured to defend.

Really at this point I'm just watching US conservatism drift into more and more ridiculous nonsense, waiting for the moment when biccat finally says he's had enough of defending their silliness. It has to be soon. I mean he's here defending a major conservative figure calling some random girl he doesn't know a slut, and the only argument the conservative noise machine has given him to justify this is speculation that the girl could have overstated the cost of contraception. So I figure the breaking point has to be soon.


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dogma wrote:But no one gets called a moonnut.

Does that seem right to you?

Or a wingbat. But then that wouldn't be much of an insult, or really much of an anything, considering bats have wings.

alarmingrick wrote:moonbats v wingnuts is a rivalry from the days of the dinosaur, noone can understand it......
(except maybe Frazz! )

So far Limbaugh has lost 2 stations(dropping his show) and 12 advertisers. And I've been hearing talk of
him being dropped by AFR(Armed Forces Radio). Nice to see his mouth finally draw it's desreved payback.

Live by the blowhard die by the blowhard? Now if we can exterminate Bill Maher's and Michael Moore's careers then I can call it a good day.



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dogma wrote:

sebster wrote:
I find it's generally the fringe left that gets called moonbats. The fringe right gets called wingnuts. I don't know why.

But no one gets called a moonnut.

Does that seem right to you?

Wingbat seems both cool and oxymoronic though. Plus it would make Batman twitch every time there's a commercial on the TV.

Frazzled wrote:

alarmingrick wrote:moonbats v wingnuts is a rivalry from the days of the dinosaur, noone can understand it......
(except maybe Frazz! )

So far Limbaugh has lost 2 stations(dropping his show) and 12 advertisers. And I've been hearing talk of
him being dropped by AFR(Armed Forces Radio). Nice to see his mouth finally draw it's desreved payback.

Live by the blowhard die by the blowhard? Now if we can exterminate Bill Maher's and Michael Moore's careers then I can call it a good day.

except this "extermination" was brought around by Rush himself.

alarmingrick wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

alarmingrick wrote:moonbats v wingnuts is a rivalry from the days of the dinosaur, noone can understand it......
(except maybe Frazz! )

So far Limbaugh has lost 2 stations(dropping his show) and 12 advertisers. And I've been hearing talk of
him being dropped by AFR(Armed Forces Radio). Nice to see his mouth finally draw it's desreved payback.

Live by the blowhard die by the blowhard? Now if we can exterminate Bill Maher's and Michael Moore's careers then I can call it a good day.

except this "extermination" was brought around by Rush himself.

What "except" they've all made similar stupid comments.

Interesting its coming out that Fluke now was earlier advocating that is employment discrimination if company health care don't cover sex change operations. Why exactly is a 30 year old at a full time law school again?
http://mrctv.org/blog/sandra-fluke-gender-reassignment-and-health-insurance

It also seems that this is exactly the type of attention Ms. Fluke wanted.

For your consideration:

Fluke came to Georgetown University interested in contraceptive coverage: She researched the Jesuit college’s health plans for students before enrolling, and found that birth control was not included. “I decided I was absolutely not willing to compromise the quality of my education in exchange for my health care,” says Fluke, who has spent the past three years lobbying the administration to change its policy on the issue. The issue got the university president’s office last spring, where Georgetown declined to change its policy.

alarmingrick wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

alarmingrick wrote:moonbats v wingnuts is a rivalry from the days of the dinosaur, noone can understand it......
(except maybe Frazz! )

So far Limbaugh has lost 2 stations(dropping his show) and 12 advertisers. And I've been hearing talk of
him being dropped by AFR(Armed Forces Radio). Nice to see his mouth finally draw it's desreved payback.

Live by the blowhard die by the blowhard? Now if we can exterminate Bill Maher's and Michael Moore's careers then I can call it a good day.

except this "extermination" was brought around by Rush himself.

Then all Frazz needs to do is provoke Bill and Michael into calling him a Slut, and then it's mission accomplished.

I believe Maher dropped the c-word a few times.

Selective outrage.

biccat wrote:I believe Maher dropped the c-word a few times.

Selective outrage.

Or ignorance of things that Maher does, seeing as he is, you know, a middling stand-up comedian with a poorly rated late-night talk show on a premium channel.

dogma wrote:

biccat wrote:I believe Maher dropped the c-word a few times.

Selective outrage.

Or ignorance of things that Maher does, seeing as he is, you know, a middling stand-up comedian with a poorly rated late-night talk show on a premium channel.

vs. a middling stand up commedian on a poorly rated AM radio talk station?

Limbaugh is considered a comedian now?

Frazzled wrote:
vs. a middling stand up commedian on a poorly rated AM radio talk station?

I thought his show was still nationally syndicated, and rated higher than any other talk radio program.

If I remember right, Limbaugh has more listeners than The Daily Show has viewers, and I can guarantee more people watch that than anything Maher does.

Wiki agrees with you:

Rush Hudson Limbaugh III ... is an American radio talk show host, conservative political commentator, and an opinion leader in American conservatism. He hosts The Rush Limbaugh Show, which is aired throughout the U.S. on Premiere Radio Networks and is the highest-rated talk-radio program in the United States. Limbaugh signed an 8-year, $400 million contract extension with Clear Channel in 2008.

streamdragon wrote:Limbaugh is considered a comedian now?

Everyone outside of the USA assumes he is a parody character when they first hear/read about him.

Then we discover that he's apparently serious which is even more amusing.

Frazzled wrote:

alarmingrick wrote:moonbats v wingnuts is a rivalry from the days of the dinosaur, noone can understand it......
(except maybe Frazz! )

So far Limbaugh has lost 2 stations(dropping his show) and 12 advertisers. And I've been hearing talk of
him being dropped by AFR(Armed Forces Radio). Nice to see his mouth finally draw it's desreved payback.

Live by the blowhard die by the blowhard? Now if we can exterminate Bill Maher's and Michael Moore's careers then I can call it a good day. .

Not sure who bill maher is(i probably know just cant recall the name) But Moore, Yes. He is such a pretentious moron.

dogma wrote:Or ignorance of things that Maher does, seeing as he is, you know, a middling stand-up comedian with a poorly rated late-night talk show on a premium channel.

Maher gets about 1 million viewers a night. Which is roughly on par with the best non-Fox news program (Rachel Maddow) [as an aside, since when do Hannity, O'Reilly, Maddow, Schultz and O'Donnell count as news shows?]

Seems like his views are important to some people.

biccat wrote:
Maher gets about 1 million viewers a night. Which is roughly on par with the best non-Fox news program (Rachel Maddow) [as an aside, since when do Hannity, O'Reilly, Maddow, Schultz and O'Donnell count as news shows?]

Seems like his views are important to some people.

Its also a weekly, rather than daily show. Which is to say, barring re-runs (I can't find data on them) significantly fewer people watch Real Time than watch Rachel Maddow on a weekly basis.

Some people may care about what he has to say, but you can't really argue that his significance as a public figure even approaches Limbaugh's.

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streamdragon wrote:Limbaugh is considered a comedian now?

Everyone outside of the USA assumes he is a parody character when they first hear/read about him.

Then we discover that he's apparently serious which is even more amusing.

Why do you think he's serious? Why does anyone think or take him seriously.

And compariing him to the Daily Show is still a battle of nobody vs. nobody. Trying to draw a difference so its ok for the left wing crazies to be crazies is nonsense.

Frazzled wrote:Why do you think he's serious? Why does anyone think or take him seriously.

Depends on what the issue is.

He's serious on a lot of things, not so serious on others.

I did particularly enjoy when the left got righteously indignant over the "Magic Negro" song.

Frazzled wrote:And compariing him to the Daily Show is still a battle of nobody vs. nobody. Trying to draw a difference so its ok for the left wing crazies to be crazies is nonsense.

I'd rather they just say "left wing crazies are allowed to be crazy," it would let us know where they stand. Rather than trying to create false barriers that break down when they would negatively impact liberal crazies.

Doesn't, at some point, the context of the comment also factor in?

I mean, there's a reason there isn't outrage every time a policeman beats a suspect too.

Oh, and "Rush doesn't have any influence on conservatives" is up there with "I'm not a Republican, I'm an independent" and "I'm not right wing, I'm moderate" with things conservatives say that always amuse me.

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Monster Rain wrote:No, it actually isn't.

I disagree with Gen. Lee Losing here, but you're just making things up.

Protip: Google what "optional" means.

He isn't. If a thing is simply left up to those who can afford it, then there is no right to it if you don't have the money. So, for instance, if alarmingrick couldn't afford to pay for the pill, his child would be without it.

Gen. Lee Losing was talking about paying for optional medical procedures and medications. Go back and read the posts.

Regulating hormones to keep one from bleeding to death is not, by most reasonable definitions, optional if that is what is deemed medically necessary.

Are we really derping this hard right now?

How about we address each instance of stupid on its own merit?

Why should we play a constant game of "it's okay that Rush did it because X did it, and it's okay that X did it because Y did it before him".

Why not be angry at each person for his or her own offense? If you are justifying it, then are already acknowledging that he was wrong and you are just trying to ding a reason to make it okay.

d-usa wrote:How about we address each instance of stupid on its own merit?

Why should we play a constant game of "it's okay that Rush did it because X did it, and it's okay that X did it because Y did it before him".

Why not be angry at each person for his or her own offense? If you are justifying it, then are already acknowledging that he was wrong and you are just trying to ding a reason to make it okay.

i think I already did that. Come on D-Usa catch up. The Frazzled victory train is heading out!

I'd get on that train.

Monster Rain wrote:I'd get on that train.

The Weiner dog express? No thanks, smells like weinies......

alarmingrick wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:I'd get on that train.

The Weiner dog express? No thanks, smells like weinies......

Especially since we all know what Weiner does.

I would like to know what his or a general definition of slut really is.

Girl has sex with a 1 guy in a high school. Word gets around. Slut.

Girl sleeps with a few guys. Slut.

Is it a certain number of guy? number of guys in a period of time? Not married to they guy(s).

Not to sound like some feminist fighting for women's sexual freedom and expression, but men seem to be too fixated on women and their number of partners they may have had and not point the finger at themselves.

What do we say about this guy?
http://www.ktrh.com/pages/michaelberry.html?article=9850991

In non-video format please?

Not that it matters, you're probably expecting people to jump to his defense because of political beliefs or something.

Frazzled wrote:vs. a middling stand up commedian on a poorly rated AM radio talk station?

Limbaugh plays daily to an audience in the tens of millions, and he a political commentator, not a comedian.

So basically what you're saying is that both sides are equal as long as we're all happy to make the facts that make them equal.

Frazzled wrote:What do we say about this guy?
http://www.ktrh.com/pages/michaelberry.html?article=9850991

He's an ass.
What about Gov. Kasich refusing "Federal assistance" at first? Saying they didn't need it.
And all because of polotics. The guy you linked is a talking head. Kasich is the leader of a state
and his actions could actually hurt those victims.