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Leerstetten, Germany

Mannahnin wrote:There used to be a requirement. Nowadays it isn't, but they can revoke your US citizenship if they have reason to believe you've renounced it.


Yeah, I think most of the requirements with dual citizenship and loosing citizenships have more to do with voluntarily picking up another nationality. If you have multiple nationalities because of circumstance (birth, parent, etc..) the you can usually keep them all. If you actively pursue another citizenship then things may become more difficult.

If I joined the US military I would loose my German citizenship unless I applied for a waiver beforehand if I remember right. I am sure there are similar requirements for the US side of things if I were living in Germany and decided to enlist.

I think I am "technically" more American than German. I was born in Germany, but in a US military hospital on base. So I think I suffer from the McCain effect and would still be considered as being born on "American soil". Then I have one German and one American parent.
   
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d-usa wrote:Might depend on certain definitions and certain countries. The United States doesn't have any provisions for making you choose if you are born with two citizenships. I cannot speak for people who become naturalized at a later age, but from the US perspective there is no need to pick once you hit 18.


Like I said earlier, naturalised is different. To become a naturalised US citizen you are required to renounce other citizenship, but the kicker is that most countries ignore that, and you remain a citizen anyway.

“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”

Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges




United States

d-usa wrote:
It is also fun when the Border Patrol tries to figure out why you have no entry/exit stamps in your passport when coming back into the US.


Try having a passport with added pages.

"This is suspicious!" is the normal line.

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Outside the DarkTower, amongst the roses.

Threads like this make me really want the asteroid to slam us in december. Might be the only way to change up the way the world works. I hate both parties, who should I vote for? I really wish tinfoil would do a better job of blocking out the truth.I want my blue pill back lol.

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Pleasant Valley, Iowa

Mannahnin wrote:There used to be a requirement. Nowadays it isn't, but they can revoke your US citizenship if they have reason to believe you've renounced it.


It's way, way more difficult than that. If you are a naturalized citizen, then it's easier, but if you were born on in the US to an American citizen it's nearly impossible to revoke your citizenship, even if you've renounced it. You actually have to renounce it in a very specific way, by going to a US consulate, having a witness, and filling out a form. I read up on this extensively when Obama authorized the (imo, extrajudicial) killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, who had birthright citizenship but joined Al Qaeda. He had renounced his citizenship while in Yemen, but remained a US citizen up until the day he died (by a US drone strike). Otherwise there would have been virtually no complications for ordering his assassination.

There have been numerous efforts, mostly by Joe Lieberman, to make it as you say, where it's easier to revoke US citizenship; but none of them have passed (yet).

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dogma wrote:Try having a passport with added pages.

"This is suspicious!" is the normal line.


A Mongolian diplomat was stopped at customs in the 1990s, they felt he was suspicious because they didn't believe Mongolia was really a country.

I mean, to be fair it does kind of sound made up, like a place that used to exist.


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Deathshead420 wrote:Threads like this make me really want the asteroid to slam us in december. Might be the only way to change up the way the world works. I hate both parties, who should I vote for? I really wish tinfoil would do a better job of blocking out the truth.I want my blue pill back lol.


What? An article with an almost completely fictitious basis is posted, and that makes you despair of both parties?

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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”

Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
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Zendikar

Oh good god why
I guess the world will end in 2012

 
   
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The Great State of Texas

Mannahnin wrote:Yeah, I've been tempted to get a Bulgarian passport since they joined the EU; I just don't want to put in the work to learn the language.

The first rule of Bulgaria Club is no one talks about Bulgaria Club!


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dogma wrote:
Mannahnin wrote:No one enforces the restriction against smoking Cubans.


We don't even really enforce the travel ban.

"There appear to be staple holes in your passport."
"My word! However could they have gotten there?!?"

Mannahnin wrote:
You did leave out both the real benefits of retaining your EU citizenship; getting to use the shorter airport security lines while you're in Europe, and having a much easier time getting a job, because you don't need a work visa.


Ugh, don't remind me. I've been trying for a French work visa (well, their ridiculous equivalent of one) for the better part of a year.

I thought the travel ban had been done away with.

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Amusingly enough, many forget the first president to sign such an order was a Republican, and, the fact that the US survived his presidency was far more surprising than the possibility that Obama might be re-elected.

His name was Abraham Lincoln.


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United States

Frazzled wrote:
I thought the travel ban had been done away with.


Nah, its just that more exceptions were added. It will be gone within a decade though, maybe sooner.

Either way, there are plenty of ways to get to Cuba without travelling from the US, and the Cubans are more than happy to refrain from stamping your passport directly.

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