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For the uninitiated, what exactly does "HHHobby" mean? I saw it come up awhile ago and now I see it everywhere.

Also, on topic: I really wish GW would start listing the edition number on all its books. Just a pet peeve. Nothing much to say about this "leak" however. If that's the final cover, so be it - I'm more interested about what's inside the book.

"HHHobby" was a term coined by KilKrazy (I believe) to disparagingly refer to what GW calls "The Games Workshop Hobby", which is term they coined to try to make people think that GW games are somehow part of an entirely different hobby than other tabletop wargames ("Sure, you could play Malifaux, but that's not part of The Hobby!"). Haters and Black Knights have now adopted it.

So its a Dark Angel? Don't really know why that would be such a crazy thing as they are the next loyalist group in line for a codex.

All I want is for the stuff inside the book to actually fix the stuff that's broken with the game.

RatBot wrote:"HHHobby" was a term coined by KilKrazy (I believe) to disparagingly refer to what GW calls "The Games Workshop Hobby", which is term they coined to try to make people think that GW games are somehow part of an entirely different hobby than other tabletop wargames ("Sure, you could play Malifaux, but that's not part of The Hobby!"). Haters and Black Knights have now adopted it.

So is it an acronym, or does it have a punchline, or anything like that? Or is it arbitrary?

I hope it doesn't sound like I expect you to personally answer that, btw, since you seem to be a helpful bystander rather than an actual practitioner of the wordplay in question. But if one of those dudes could answer I'd be obliged.

Reivax26 wrote:So its a Dark Angel? Don't really know why that would be such a crazy thing as they are the next loyalist group in line for a codex.

All I want is for the stuff inside the book to actually fix the stuff that's broken with the game.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA really though, best wishes to you.

Altruizine wrote:

RatBot wrote:"HHHobby" was a term coined by KilKrazy (I believe) to disparagingly refer to what GW calls "The Games Workshop Hobby", which is term they coined to try to make people think that GW games are somehow part of an entirely different hobby than other tabletop wargames ("Sure, you could play Malifaux, but that's not part of The Hobby!"). Haters and Black Knights have now adopted it.

So is it an acronym, or does it have a punchline, or anything like that? Or is it arbitrary?

I've always interpreted it as something of an overly aggressive first-syllable drawl, akin to a game show announcer.

I thought that could be it, but the capitalization is at odds with that interpretation (since "Hhhobby" would be a better textual representation of that imagined enunciation).

Can someone enhance that image? I want to see what the words at the bottom say.

Something about there being only war? looks like a rulebook to me.

IN THE GRIM DARKNESS OF THE FAR FUTURE THERE IS ONLY WAR... how can you nor know that? Really?

Its been the grimdark motto for over 15 years.....

Every time I look at that cover art, I see a Black Templar painting that's been photoshopped into a Dark Angels painting. Something like that happened once before on the forums, IIRC (Imperial Fists & Black Templars or something).

That was Blood Angels to Imperial Fists. This one's not photoshopped, however. If it were, you'd be able to find the original somewhere. End of story.

Altruizine wrote:

RatBot wrote:"HHHobby" was a term coined by KilKrazy (I believe) to disparagingly refer to what GW calls "The Games Workshop Hobby", which is term they coined to try to make people think that GW games are somehow part of an entirely different hobby than other tabletop wargames ("Sure, you could play Malifaux, but that's not part of The Hobby!"). Haters and Black Knights have now adopted it.

So is it an acronym, or does it have a punchline, or anything like that? Or is it arbitrary?

I hope it doesn't sound like I expect you to personally answer that, btw, since you seem to be a helpful bystander rather than an actual practitioner of the wordplay in question. But if one of those dudes could answer I'd be obliged.

I believe it was a reference to a character sketch on a comedy show. I can't remember the name of it unfortunately, it's got one of the guys from the show 'Big Train' doing a mock-TV show about different types of hobby. Basically he's a bit of a nerdy lunatic, and uses the word 'hobby' about 100 times. Sorry I can't be more specific, perhaps someone else remembers the name?

Agamemnon2 wrote:That was Blood Angels to Imperial Fists. This one's not photoshopped, however. If it were, you'd be able to find the original somewhere. End of story.

Yep. It dosn't look photoshoped to me in those areas. There is something odd going on just under the 40k logo. That might be the word CODEX removed or (more likely) noise from using a cheap camara or mobile phone to take the photo.

DiabolicAl wrote:IN THE GRIM DARKNESS OF THE FAR FUTURE THERE IS ONLY WAR... how can you not know that? Really?

Its been the grimdark motto for over 15 years.....

I knew that, but writing out the whole thing would have not reinforced my point, at all. It was more of a joke than actual seriousness, so if I upset you, I am sorry.

If GW were to change that motto, now that would be something!

Badam tish! Best troll by GW yet.

Hope that's not 6ed rulebook anyway I do not mind the image or that it is Dark angels ... but think it's a pretty lame picture to have on the entire rulebook ..should be something for everyone, not a marine chapter (how dont even have a proper dex when it comes out

JBrehaut wrote:


3rd edition rulebook

Lies. 3rd edition didn't actually have a cover. The first print run had binding issues and they all fell off the first time you opened your book. In GW's defense, they realized the problem and mailed out replacements.

Who cares what the cover looks like, I'll be glad it it stays on the book!

Added this to the rumor tracking thread, assuming Kaltenberg was the first.

Reivax26 wrote:

All I want is for the stuff inside the book to actually fix the stuff that's broken with the game.

As much as I agree...I also realize its not going to happen.

They are going to make some changes, how much we dont know yet. However, to fix EVERYTHING thats broken with the game would require a complete rewrite of the entire game and all the codexes. Why?...because the biggest problem with the game is lack of balance. IMO this stems from a lack of a construction system...which assigns stats with set points value. Instead GW simply makes up stats, characters, etc and assigns them random points values.

I like the cover and the artwork looks gorgeous. It's a departure from the style of 4th and 5th but cool nonetheless. For those that think the cover should illustrate the conflict of multiple factions, I feel your pain, but, 40k is the story of mankind and the Imperium (i.e., Space Marines).

Mad4Minis wrote:However, to fix EVERYTHING thats broken with the game would require a complete rewrite of the entire game and all the codexes. Why?...because the biggest problem with the game is lack of balance. IMO this stems from a lack of a construction system...which assigns stats with set points value. Instead GW simply makes up stats, characters, etc and assigns them random points values.

I agree with your assessment of the problem (and indeed that the only solution would be a rewrite from the ground upwards), but it's worth pointing out that a construction system (which the game had back in the days of Rogue Trader, and which still largely informed points values in 2nd Ed.) has its own problems, since it can't in isolation account for synergies between choices. Both editions allowed for horrendously unbalanced armies (Orks and Chaos in RT, Eldar and Tyranids in 2E) despite calculating points values from a supposedly-absolute basis.

I'd be fascinated to know, if anybody could enlighten me, how the GW studio assign points values nowadays - whether they work from some kind of mathematical model and then adjust values after playtesting, or whether it's degenerated into writers making their best guesses (and then, arguably, shaving a few points off to make the newest codex more competitive - see the Space Wolves and Grey Knights codices by way of example).

I want the rulebook to have Vespid Stingwings or Eldar Shining Spears on the cover.

So the most popular, well-known and fleshed-out 'faction' in GW's universe gets front cover on their flagship rulebook? SHOCK HORROR.

This will be the first GW book I would have bought since 3rd Ed, simply because the cover is gorgeous. Only 12 days to go!

Ledabot wrote:Can someone enhance that image? I want to see what the words at the bottom say.

Something about there being only war? looks like a rulebook to me.

Sure thing!

ENHANCE

ENHANCE

ENHANCE DAMN YOU

Enhancing only happens on shows like CSI. It doesn't actually exist.

It says "In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war."

Brother SRM wrote:

Ledabot wrote:Can someone enhance that image? I want to see what the words at the bottom say.

Something about there being only war? looks like a rulebook to me.

Sure thing!

[.....]

Enhancing only happens on shows like CSI. It doesn't actually exist.

Oh man, oh man. That is comedy at its best. "Enhance". Give me a god damn break.

Cant wait for the 6th edition

More likely a DA dex and the title will be nicely embossed on the spine

... And come on people, save your nerd rage for release ;-) annoys me when people write books off before they have even seen or read them... Get over yourself or go play war machine ;-)

Liam

CptCortez128 wrote:More likely a DA dex and the title will be nicely embossed on the spine

... And come on people, save your nerd rage for release ;-) annoys me when people write books off before they have even seen or read them... Get over yourself or go play war machine ;-)

Liam

But I can tell from the light glare and the leather jacket in the background that this will be the worst edition ever!

Can't you tell by the pixels???