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The two bits of applicable advice would seem to be learn to play (learning to write would be an immense help as well) and find a group to play with who don't suck as hard as your current one.

It could be argued that you could do the second before the first.

frogy27 wrote:
Also belive if gw dont make a model for unit type you can't use the just in dex to be cool. I so want storm troopers but you can't get them

Uh... no. If a unit is given stats in a Codex, but GW does not produce a model specific to that unit, you can take similar models and convert them to match what that unit carries. If you want Stormtroopers, take some Cadian Guardsmen and put hellguns in their hands (or plasma guns or bolters or whatever it is the Codex states the unit carries). Don't like the character model for a given IC? Choose another Citadel miniature (or one from an entirely different line) and, as long as it's roughly the same size with generally the same guns/knives/grenades/whatever, then you're pretty well good to go. "Counts As" is kinda the name of the game in this situation.

I will never make my own models i will not wreck a model to build hydra and our any model so you limited to whatit you can field from gw very limited. as to what they give you like. all the artillery the y say you can use but don't give you that many models. so what they in codex to look cool.

Then, quite frankly, you're an idiot and in the wrong hobby. This is a game designed around building your own models to fit one's personal desire for a custom army look, building variants of vehicles presented in Codices, White Dwarf, IA Volumes, whatever's bearing the "40K Approved" stamp, or converting models to present a cool-looking army on the table to represent custom Chapters, historical armies, or for whatever-the-hell reason. Back in the day... and I'm guessing a decade, at least, before you were born... we used to use the little plastic bubbles from gumball machines mounted on spare Walker leg sprues because none of us could get Killa Kans for our Ork hordes, and just glued random bits of sprue, spare weapons, heads, whatever on them to make them "Orky". The added benefit of the bubble was, if the unit was destroyed, you could pop it in half and leave it in a pile on the table. My brother even glued a crazy little grot mini to the inside base cap of the bubble of a few. Then we got older, got jobs, and our local store got better inventory and we could buy the real thing.

This hobby, and this game, gives you as much out of it as you're willing to put into it. If you're just throwing a list together and hoping it somehow wins against any and all foes you come up against, you're going to be in a world of hurt when you encounter an army that is particularly strong against foot-Guard or Mech-Guard. If you're fielding a horde of infantry, and run into an entirely ground-based army that is heavy on the Flamers, or any Large Blast Template weapons... not a single Flyer amongst them... you're gonna get spanked. If you bring a Tank-and-Truck army against an army fielding large number of Lascannons and anti-armor infantry (melta-vets, for example)... you're gonna get spanked. If your local group is all about the Flyers, then you need to adjust your army build to take this into account. This isn't really list-tailoring, as you're not building a list specifically to counter one single army build, but you are adjusting your tactics and your playstyle to better-match the styles of the other armies you're likely to face. As Guard, you've got one of the most versatile...heck, probably *the* most versatile... armies one can field. And if all you are playing is KP games? Then you need to adjust your tactics to maximize your KP-gains and minimize your opponent's KP-gains. This seems to include killing their flyers.

Now, now, now. We all had to start some where. It could be the poor lad has a very bad case of dyslexia. I know some poor soul that is as bight as a 1000 watt light bulb but can only read and write with the effectiveness of a 10 year old. I my self am dyslexic (prefect reading and good penmanship, but I struggle with spelling,) I'd be lost with out F7 or right click

frogy27 wrote:
As a csm and new ig player. i really don't care@for planes ever one brings 3to6 some times more planes to a game. as a ground pounder and mech head i find this rather just blah. its so unwise to use armor now as with all the flying tanks that even care troops. as they will just lay wast to ur armor and drop a squad of guys off to finsh the job of killing. only way around this is to take defense of works with quad guns and hide be hind them and hope for the best.
Side note my group don't play objective based games always last man standing wins type of games our kill points. ALSO I WILL NEVER BUY A FLYER marines flyer look ugly like a flying rhino. Ig flyer i feel same way. i run mech style marines and tank and foot heavy ig.

ok rant over


men of the 506 foot back to ur bunkers and quad gund

You have three real options here: Find a new group to play with, push the group to bring objectives back to the game or buy your own flyers and join in the meta. Those objectives are what make the ground pounders necessary. Just like in the real world you can't claim territory with a bunch of things flying around in the sky dropping bombs. Only boots on the ground can do that. If you can't get objectives back into the game or find a new group then you are stuck with the meta and need to accept it and play with it. I am lucky in that I am the big spender in my group so no one else in the group even has a flyer, so they almost never appear. Since no one else plays CSMs or DAs either I don't use the flyers I have (1 hell blade and 1 heldrake) because I don't see the point in forcing them to buy the defense line with quad gun BS crap either.

Skriker

Flyers killed 40k, in the Black library, with the AP3 candlestick!

Meaning Canoness Scarlet and Commissar Mustard are innocent.

frogy27 wrote:
Also belive if gw dont make a model for unit type you can't use the just in dex to be cool. I so want storm troopers but you can't get them

Ummm...where did you get this from? If the model isn't officially made you are *encouraged* to make/convert your own and use it. As for storm troopers go to GW's online store and look in the Elite section for Imperial Guard. There you will see two options: Stormtroopers and Kasirkin, which are just specially named Cadian stormtroopers. Both readily available and purchasable every day. There is even a full selection of special weapon options available to each kind as well.

Stormtroopers are an important elite choice for an IG army and have been available in different miniature forms practically since 2nd edition of the game.

Skriker


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 Ribon Fox wrote:
The IG have the best AAA platforms in the game and you are getting tabled by air power?
Just because a kit doesn't exist doesn't mean you can't use it, hell even if a kit of it does exist you don't have to use it.

battle sentinel was built). The kit is was cheap and with a bit of plascard, some bits from the bitz boxz you have a very cool looking unit (I always tell folks that they are Hydras and the nod after going "COOL!").
The second two images are of my Hydra called "Lead Slinger" built to look like what is in the codex. Its only used in 1000pts games where the points matter.
Adapt or die, tiss the way of life and war.

Very nice job on the Hydra conversion RF.

Skriker