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A 187 year old murder?

Damn all the masons!

Seriously, this is priceless...

 kitch102 wrote:
Sounds good! Which lodge are talking with?

Hope it goes well for you

I'll be speaking with someone from lodge 941. I'm pretty excited

I have genuinely never heard of that instance or man. As I said though, to save us going round in circles, I'd appreciate being able to move on past your, with respect, conspiracy theories.

D-usa has it right lol

Ironic, I hope it goes well for you! Be yourself and enjoy meeting the people there

Cool thread.

There is a very large lodge literally two blocks down from my place.

To be honest, it's super creepy. It's got a big faded mural on the side, and a bunch of stained glass windows everywhere. The door is ALWAYS shut, and there is an intercom out front. Anytime I see anyone entering or leaving, they invariably look furtive. Sometimes there are very big, very rude guards with earpieces posted up out front, presumably when there is an event going on inside. The parking lot has several large and unfriendly signs instructing non-members to not even enter it to make U-turns.

There are no signs out front. The only way I know it's a masonic lodge is the mural on the side, which is so faded that it's actually hard to see.

It hasn't happened recently, but a few years ago on a number of occasions I saw literal busloads of *very* scantily clad, very young girls (think late teens, early twenties) going in there. It looked like a busload of prostitutes, frankly. At the time, my wife and I were convinced that's what it was. I saw that two or three times, but, again, haven't seen it in years.

I'm sure there is nothing seriously nefarious going on inside, but, the overall unfriendliness / creepiness of the place is disturbing enough that I don't even like walking by it.

Can any masons here maybe shed some light on what I'm seeing or help with my general uneasiness about the place?

Ooh! Which of these are true, and which do you know to be false?

http://listverse.com/2012/11/21/top-10-scandalous-freemason-secrets/

My students last year were utterly obsessed with Masonic symbols and conspiracy theories.

feth knows, could you give me the address and I'll find out first hand?!?!

Genuinely no idea. Women aren't allowed inside of the "temple" unless it's just for a tour.

Lodges are used for other purposes though. It could be that a lodge didn't have enough members to justify the use of what sounds like a big expensive building, and moved elsewhere. Meanwhile the building is handed over to another party for their own use. Either way, that doesn't sound masonic.

Could you take a picture of the building and post it up here? Sounds interesting.


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I know the noose is true, it represents an umbilical cord, which in turn represents rebirth.

As for the rest of it, I couldn't say pal :-/

 ironicsilence wrote:
i know this is the OT / internet and all but maybe more useful discussion and less pot shots and silly nonsense?

Yes, please.

 kitch102 wrote:
feth knows, could you give me the address and I'll find out first hand?!?!

Genuinely no idea. Women aren't allowed inside of the "temple" unless it's just for a tour.

Lodges are used for other purposes though. It could be that a lodge didn't have enough members to justify the use of what sounds like a big expensive building, and moved elsewhere. Meanwhile the building is handed over to another party for their own use. Either way, that doesn't sound masonic.

Could you take a picture of the building and post it up here? Sounds interesting.


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I know the noose is true, it represents an umbilical cord, which in turn represents rebirth.

As for the rest of it, I couldn't say pal :-/

You've got to be right. They must rent the place out for events to outside organizations or something. I can't imagine partying with a busload of prostitutes adheres to the Freemason code of conduct. But, then again, I saw a bunch of distinguished looking older gentlemen escorting these young ladies inside... it was a freaky scene, man, I am telling you.

Or perhaps it's some strange offshoot of freemasonry? The mural definitely has the ruler and compass design on it. I'll try to get a pic of the place next time I walk past, and I will post it here. Although, to be honest, I am more than a little concerned that I may get confronted by some goon for taking pictures of the place. Yes, the vibe around there is like that.

Wow, murder is now a conspiracy theory. And I'm using that example to point you in the direction of what I mentioned earlier in thead to break down you denile on all masons are good and they speak truth all day every day.
Look, you have made your choice, and I'm not trying to change it. But it's a foolish man who closes his mind or belittles the other side of the coin. You were born with free will, and it's up to you to use it. If you choose to follow group thought, that's your business. I'm only bringing a horse to water.

 Themanwiththeplan wrote:
Wow, murder is now a conspiracy theory. And I'm using that example to point you in the direction of what I mentioned earlier in thead to break down you denile on all masons are good and they speak truth all day every day.
Look, you have made your choice, and I'm not trying to change it. But it's a foolish man who closes his mind or belittles the other side of the coin. You were born with free will, and it's up to you to use it. If you choose to follow group thought, that's your business. I'm only bringing a horse to water.

your not taking a horse anywhere...the horse is dead...stop beating it. Muslims are peace loving good people but this one time a group of them flew some planes into some buildings and killed a bunch of people....does that mean all Muslims are evil?

Do you have any personal experience with the masons that makes your opinion of them so strong?

Are you now trying to make me out to be a racist? Your bait is obvious. Be careful what you fish for, for sometimes the hunter becomes the prey.

Seriously, this whole "200 years ago some Freemasons killed some guy, possibly because he was going to write a book about them. Therefore Freemasons in 2013 are going to kill anybody who spills their secrets. Wake up Sheeple!" thing is just making you look pretty silly.

Keep on rocking the tinfoil, meanwhile this thread is on target to get locked.

(Probably by the Masons. Lego's are square, and are used to build things. They are almost like cornerstones. And one of the admins is Legoburner. Which fits in with the stone cutting symbolism of the legos and the burning is from the holy fire of the sun. This goes deep guys, very deep.)

 Themanwiththeplan wrote:
Are you now trying to make me out to be a racist? Your bait is obvious. Be careful what you fish for, for sometimes the hunter becomes the prey.

No he's not trying to make you out to be a racist, Masons aren't a race, they're an organization. He was giving you something equally as ludicrous as your statement.

Him: A small number of Muslims killed people in a plane attack, therefore all Muslims are bad (false)
You: A small number of Freemasons killed a guy in a violent attack, therefore all Freemasons are bad (false).
Me: I'm a member of Tau Kappa Epsilon, they've had members kill kids with alcohol poisoning, therefore all Tekes are bad. (false, we're fething awesome )

Ironic, just ignore him, hopefully he'll give up in the end.


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D-usa, holy crap dude I think you're on to something there!

Can we ignore the troll and focus on what's really important? The older men partying with very young prostitutes at my local Masonic Lodge is a pressing and important issue!

 Xenocidal Maniac wrote:
Can we ignore the troll and focus on what's really important? The older men partying with very young prostitutes at my local Masonic Lodge is a pressing and important issue!

pretty sure that should be on the recruitment poster cause thats a party I want to join

 ironicsilence wrote:

 Xenocidal Maniac wrote:
Can we ignore the troll and focus on what's really important? The older men partying with very young prostitutes at my local Masonic Lodge is a pressing and important issue!

pretty sure that should be on the recruitment poster cause thats a party I want to join

I don't think I'd feel comfortable with that until the phrase "very young" is defined.

I guess its all relative, very young to me is too young, but very young for a bunch of old men sounds just about right!

Refer to my previous post - by young, I mean late teens / early twenties.

Haha yeah... only reason I was really upset about is that I wasn't allowed to join

Yes you are all bad people because a few of you murdered a guy 200 years ago. So....masons have done nothing bad since then. Yes believe you! believe you! I could point them out but you will just call them conspiracies like you did with that murder until I gave you proof. Enjoy your satanic cult guys, I'm sure your 'priest's' find there's nothing wrong with dressing up like the Ku Klux Klan.

 Themanwiththeplan wrote:
Yes you are all bad people because a few of you murdered a guy 200 years ago. So....masons have done nothing bad since then. Yes believe you! believe you! I could point them out but you will just call them conspiracies like you did with that murder until I gave you proof. Enjoy your satanic cult guys, I'm sure your 'priest's' find there's nothing wrong with dressing up like the Ku Klux Klan.

You sir have dove...

 Xenocidal Maniac wrote:
Refer to my previous post - by young, I mean late teens / early twenties.

Haha yeah... only reason I was really upset about is that I wasn't allowed to join

its the polar opposite of Islam, instead of dieing and getting 72 virgins, you get to live and have 72 working girls

 Themanwiththeplan wrote:
Yes you are all bad people because a few of you murdered a guy 200 years ago. So....masons have done nothing bad since then. Yes believe you! believe you! I could point them out but you will just call them conspiracies like you did with that murder until I gave you proof. Enjoy your satanic cult guys, I'm sure your 'priest's' find there's nothing wrong with dressing up like the Ku Klux Klan.

Apply directly to the forehead!

I just want to take a moment to say -

This is the best thread ever.

 rubiksnoob wrote:

 Themanwiththeplan wrote:
Yes you are all bad people because a few of you murdered a guy 200 years ago. So....masons have done nothing bad since then. Yes believe you! believe you! I could point them out but you will just call them conspiracies like you did with that murder until I gave you proof. Enjoy your satanic cult guys, I'm sure your 'priest's' find there's nothing wrong with dressing up like the Ku Klux Klan.

Apply directly to the forehead!

Will do And thanks, I was aiming to go off the deep end with the most insane conspiracies I could think of, though I probably missed some. You guys are too easy, laugh more instead of taking gak serious. I've had fun laughing at you and the same with you at me. It'ts been fun but I'm bored with this thread now. I'm off to crawl into my bunker and eat jarred food while I read Alex Jones as I watch my cameras. Come and get me lizards! Your ray guns from your UFO's can't get me!

Oh we would have laughed at what you said instead of just at you, if there had been anything funny to your posts, instead they were just sad, sad and insane...

 Themanwiththeplan wrote:

Will do And thanks, I was aiming to go off the deep end with the most insane conspiracies I could think of, though I probably missed some. You guys are too easy, laugh more instead of taking gak serious. I've had fun laughing at you and the same with you at me. It'ts been fun but I'm bored with this thread now. I'm off to crawl into my bunker and eat jarred food while I read Alex Jones as I watch my cameras. Come and get me lizards! Your ray guns from your UFO's can't get me!

Ah, congrats. Last minute direction change to swap your poorly articulated arguments for a 'no skin off my nose' trolling attitude.

I wish I could even say it was well done, but instead you've just derailed a thread aimlessly. You're the first person who almost made it on to my ban list. Congrats again.

Sorry to disappoint. And your right there, no skin off my nose, just a lark to point out that not all masons are saints like you have all tried to portray. How ease it is to pull the strings of puppet's. Dance my puppets! Dance!

 Themanwiththeplan wrote:
Sorry to disappoint. And your right there, no skin off my nose, just a lark to point out that not all masons are saints like you have all tried to portray. How ease it is to pull the strings of puppet's. Dance my puppets! Dance!

No one said all masons are saints, but you cherry picked an example older than people's grandparents...

 Themanwiththeplan wrote:
Sorry to disappoint. And your right there, no skin off my nose, just a lark to point out that not all masons are saints like you have all tried to portray. How ease it is to pull the strings of puppet's. Dance my puppets! Dance!

the french judge gives your trolling attempt a 3, better luck next time, or maybe dont be TFG and try to derail people's conversations