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 Kroothawk wrote:

 Lockark wrote:
Is this new rumour a confirmation or a repost of the original blood of kittens one?

The update is new, the old rumour is old. Thought that was clear enough.

It feels like alot of the new rumor is just repeating the old rumor.

So I was wondering if anyone knew their track record.

I haven't bought a new GW product in a couple of years, but this is really interesting. If the following conditions are met:

1) The game has campaign/growth mechanics included a'la necromunda
2) Two playable factions and enough other stats to make it worthwhile converting or proxying other figures.
3) Is $100 or less
4) Is in line with Necromunda in terms of complexity.

...then it's almost for sure that I'll split it with a friend or even buy it outright myself. A skirmish level game in the 40k world has the potential to package up more than enough awesome to get me out of my general malaise regarding GW.

On the other hand if it's just a boardgame with no campaign mechanics, then I'll probably pass it by.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:

 jah-joshua wrote:


yeah, one guy who likes to collect and paint rare minis is what's wrong with this hobby...
oh wait, from my perspective, nothing is wrong with the hobby...
i just sit back and enjoy collecting rare minis...

[TOO MANY ELIPSES...]

cheers
jah

Why do you format your posts like this? It's strange and a little annoying to read. Regardless, you can still collect the box set even if they make more than a couple dozen copies of it. Toys are more fun when they're not sitting in their shrink wrap.

Agreed, I've never understood that mentality. I mean, I own "collector editions" of things, videogames etc, but I bought them because of the stuff that came in them, not because I found some kind of perverse joy in knowing that because I owned something, someone else I'd never met and never would was deprived of the chance to own it. I bought the LE of Dark Vengeance because I wanted the Chaplain, but I'd still have bought it if there was nothing limited about it and they'd only made a regular edition.

Absolutely. The only thing that makes a "collector's" item special or specific to the "collector" is that they have more money probably. I'm much more impressed by people who can take something that ANYONE can buy, and then does something special to it through their own skill.

-C6

 IceRapture wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:

Why do you format your posts like this? It's strange and a little annoying to read. Regardless, you can still collect the box set even if they make more than a couple dozen copies of it. Toys are more fun when they're not sitting in their shrink wrap.

Agreed, I've never understood that mentality. I mean, I own "collector editions" of things, videogames etc, but I bought them because of the stuff that came in them, not because I found some kind of perverse joy in knowing that because I owned something, someone else I'd never met and never would was deprived of the chance to own it. I bought the LE of Dark Vengeance because I wanted the Chaplain, but I'd still have bought it if there was nothing limited about it and they'd only made a regular edition.

You realize he's saying he enjoys collecting AND painting the LE stuff right?
He's not saying his enjoyment of the wargaming hobby comes from schadenfreude, he's a collector and a painter which is a completely legitimate division of the hobby.

 jah-joshua wrote:

yeah, one guy who likes to collect and paint rare minis is what's wrong with this hobby...

Please read the comments before letting loose the hate.

He specifically stated he would prefer that any Inquisition boxed release be limited edition, because he likes to collect things. The only reason to prefer a thing be limited edition over general unlimited release assuming the contents are the same is because you derive satisfaction from knowing that you own something other people can't.

Well, well....

Official +I+munda from Games Workshop. Sounds absolutely fantastic and would be a massive hit, with Hobbyists around the world having done the advertising for the concept since 2008

 catharsix wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:

 jah-joshua wrote:


yeah, one guy who likes to collect and paint rare minis is what's wrong with this hobby...
oh wait, from my perspective, nothing is wrong with the hobby...
i just sit back and enjoy collecting rare minis...

[TOO MANY ELIPSES...]

cheers
jah

Why do you format your posts like this? It's strange and a little annoying to read. Regardless, you can still collect the box set even if they make more than a couple dozen copies of it. Toys are more fun when they're not sitting in their shrink wrap.

Agreed, I've never understood that mentality. I mean, I own "collector editions" of things, videogames etc, but I bought them because of the stuff that came in them, not because I found some kind of perverse joy in knowing that because I owned something, someone else I'd never met and never would was deprived of the chance to own it. I bought the LE of Dark Vengeance because I wanted the Chaplain, but I'd still have bought it if there was nothing limited about it and they'd only made a regular edition.

Absolutely. The only thing that makes a "collector's" item special or specific to the "collector" is that they have more money probably. I'm much more impressed by people who can take something that ANYONE can buy, and then does something special to it through their own skill.

-C6

no, i don't have more money than most others, i just have a passion for collecting rare minis...
please, take a look at my gallery of 40K minis, and then tell me that i don't do special things with bog standard minis...

@Yodhrin: it's not about owning something others can't, but about painting some things that others don't own...
this is, in my opinion, a good business decision...
now that i've quit doing commissions and studio work, i will be spending half my time on LE's, and half my time on stock minis...
with two different budgets, for two different types of customers...
it's smart business, paint something rare to attract the pure collector, and also something stock for the gamer...

i understand that my opinion may not be popular, but you don't need to judge me as some villain, or put words in my mouth...
call me mercenary all you want, but i'm not trying to lord over anyone, or gloat about my toy soldiers...
i'm simply trying to make a living with my skills, and attracting customers with rare gems is a very valid idea...

cheers
jah

I want an entire box of plastic Jokaero... lol

The bickering about limited editions is rather off topic.

Practically speaking, all of GW's new (board)game releases have been limited editions of very large size. No-one who wanted a Space Hulk or a Dread Fleet had any trouble getting one at release as long as they had the ready cash. However there have been no reprints in later years.

 jah-joshua wrote:

 Ironwill13791 wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 jah-joshua wrote:
why not just just shift those other expensive purchases aside, and get this box first???
that's exactly what i will be doing...
Space Marines can wait...

And there you have it, the reason GW is so hell bent on doing LE rather than adding competitive products to their range.

God forbid the game is actually good and people want to play it instead of 40k...

I love it. That is the exact way the elite stay elite.

yeah, one guy who likes to collect and paint rare minis is what's wrong with this hobby...
oh wait, from my perspective, nothing is wrong with the hobby...
i just sit back and enjoy collecting rare minis...

i love the Space Hulk set, even without playing the game, because the minis are beautiful...
same goes for Dreadfleet...
no matter what anyone thinks of the game, the ships are amazing...
i happen to love cool minis...
simple...

i'm not interested in gaming, nor in being elite...
i just want to enjoy the hobby my way, and i know i will enjoy some Inq. 28 minis...

cheers
jah

It's a bit hard to explain to University that I have to shift back the paying of my tuition fees as I *must have* the brand new shiny box of toys from GW that can't wait as it's limited edition as I may miss out.

Not everyone spends all their money on GW bro... I am not buying anything of the new space marines....


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Like I said before anyway, don't make it limited edition, get a finite amount produced at first and start a pre-order for the next batch 6 months down the line if they need too, i can wait 6 months, even if I miss out on some cool special edition model in it. I want the rule book mainly, NOT the models, I'll make my own warband.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
The bickering about limited editions is rather off topic.

Practically speaking, all of GW's new (board)game releases have been limited editions of very large size. No-one who wanted a Space Hulk or a Dread Fleet had any trouble getting one at release as long as they had the ready cash. However there have been no reprints in later years.

But that's the thing. After the initial release there will be no new players. To most people the game is dead and forgotten.

At first I was incredibly excited! Then I saw one word...

Blanche.

I have now become mildly curious.

Just to remind everyone...


tags added, artistic partial nudity ahoy so etc etc yadda yadda
reds8n

Isn't that picture from his Femme Militant line?

 DeffDred wrote:
At first I was incredibly excited! Then I saw one word...

Blanche.

I have now become mildly curious.

Just to remind everyone...

Funny, he also did these:

 Yodhrin wrote:

He specifically stated he would prefer that any Inquisition boxed release be limited edition, because he likes to collect things. The only reason to prefer a thing be limited edition over general unlimited release assuming the contents are the same is because you derive satisfaction from knowing that you own something other people can't.

I'd like it to be general release as well - or at worst simply made readily available for x months rather than "2000 units worldwide"-type limited.

However, I so see the appeal of collecting rare and limited models. Not because I'm denying others having something, but because it's just cool to get and to have something that's hard to get. This can range from the Sgt Centurious I got years ago from a friend to a few unreleased figures I managed to get off eBay to the old WFB3-era models I've been buying and collecting recently. I got the original Dragon Ogre last week. I'm fething stoked about that - partly because it's rare and hard to get, but also because I always wanted to own it back in the day. It wasn't limited back then, but it certainly qualifies as "rare" now.

If they release this product as an ongoing release, I think the first batch of them will be limited - as in with a limited figure inside them as DV and Hobbit had (and an inflated price to go with it!). - Following ones will lack the limited figure. If it's simply a one-off splash release like Space Hulk or Dead (in the water) Fleet, the box itself will be the limited-edition exciting-thing.

I much prefer Blanche's art style to the cartoony look of current 40k miniatures.


Maybe the new space marine plastics will have even more screaming cartoony guys! Yay!

Thanks for reposting Kroothawk I still don't understand why the first post was ever closed in the first placed....

It was closed because after the initial post there was not a single shred of any worthwhile rumor or information and the entire thread from post #2 onward was just a bunch of worthless blather.

Frankly, I can't believe we have another thread on this so soon because again we have one post claiming this is true and already there are five pages of non-substantive posts in response.

Ye. We have allot of pointless guessing at whether it will be a limited edition based on nothing more than space hulk (which has always been a stand alone box, with a few expansions) and Dreadfleet (a horrendous flop). So, ye, basicly we have nothing other than there SHOULD be some sort of box set next month and it MIGHT have some sort of skirmish game based on the inquisition. Possibly.

 BrookM wrote:
Funny, he also did these...

Oh, I'm quite aware. Now if you'll excuse me I need to pour bleach in my eyes.


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 frozenwastes wrote:
I much prefer Blanche's art style to the cartoony look of current 40k miniatures.


Maybe the new space marine plastics will have even more screaming cartoony guys! Yay!

Are you suggesting that Blanches ...artwork... is not cartoony?

And the new helmetless heads are stern and bearded.

People who don't like Blanche should seriously just quit 40K. Whole look of 40K is based on Blanche's artworks, it is he who has given 40K such strong imagery that sets it apart from other scifi franchises.

 Crimson wrote:
People who don't like Blanche should seriously just quit 40K. Whole look of 40K is based on Blanche's artworks, it is he who has given 40K such strong imagery that sets it apart from other scifi franchises.

Sorry, but no. I'm collecting all the 40k codexes that have been released and I can't touch the Deamons one with a 5-foot pole because of the artwork. I like many of Blanche's works, BrookM posted here several examples of fantastic looking images of his, but the deamons ones, gaack, there's not one I truly enjoy.
I respect the man and his vision, but don't expect all 40k fans to enjoy his work: I feel he's a "either you love ir or you hate it" case.

Oh, and I hate how he paints his minis. Again, I understand the effort and skill require to convert and paint the way he does, but how I hate the extreme "grimdarkness" of his painting with so many muted browns and darks. Again, it's all a matter of personal taste.

And to finish: I really, really, really want leaked pictures of the minis C'mon GW, you have been excellent with the C:SM, don't disappoint us now!

DeffDred wrote:Are you suggesting that Blanches ...artwork... is not cartoony?

No, it's not. It has a 1970s indy comic book feel to it, but it is not at all like anything you'd find during Saturday morning cartoons. That's what I meant by cartoony.


"I'm a Space Marine! No wait... I'm Duke from GI Joe."

 frozenwastes wrote:
I much prefer Blanche's art style to the cartoony look of current 40k miniatures.


Maybe the new space marine plastics will have even more screaming cartoony guys! Yay!

Blanche has two art styles. I like his finished works far better than his napkin-scribbles.

I picked up the two newish Black Library hardcover art books recently. (The Emperor's Will/The Emperor's Might). Not to mention the FFG 40k RPG books. There's tons of high quality 40k art out there right now.

I am hoping it is a board game so I can play it with my young nephew. I am really looking forward to this release and just hoping its well done and have ongoing playability.

I love anything Inquisition so I think I will buy it at any rate.

Here's hoping it good

 Crimson wrote:
People who don't like Blanche should seriously just quit 40K. Whole look of 40K is based on Blanche's artworks, it is he who has given 40K such strong imagery that sets it apart from other scifi franchises.

Brian Ansell
Jes Goodwin
Ian Miller
Kev Adams
Bob Naismith
Adrian Smith
Michael and Alan Perry
Pete Knifton
Sid
Paul Bonner
Mark Gibbons
John Sibbick
Wayne England
Davis Gallagher
Tony Cottrell
Gary Harrod
Kevin Walker
Trish & Aly Morrison

and it goes on and on... - not so much in the last decade or more, but in the first decade the design studio was literally an artists' studio with creatives bouncing ideas off one another in all kinds of ways. Blanche was there, one of them and certainly deserves a lot of credit, but passing over so many artists is either ignorant, misguided or insulting.

I didn't mean to dismiss other artists, creating 40K imagery certainly was a group effort, but Blanche was the main force behind the weird gothic look of the Imperium. (Jes Goodwin is similarly the guy who is mainly responsible of the Eldar aesthetics.)

So what is the source of these rumours?

 Crimson wrote:
People who don't like Blanche should seriously just quit 40K. Whole look of 40K is based on Blanche's artworks, it is he who has given 40K such strong imagery that sets it apart from other scifi franchises.

Some of Blanches artwork is fantastic, the Gothic buildings, the whichunters, the mechaniucum, SoB

But some of it is just awful, his vision is fine as long as others are there to balance it out and the figures are not direct copies of his art, I prefer his earlier work, lately it just seems brown and red.

Whether or not you personally like Blanche's work or style, bear in mind that he oversees and mentors much of the inhouse artist's and what they produce. He's been there since the beginning and his influence flows through many of the above named artists, the sculptors and the design team.

I'm thankful to him for his continued contributions and glad he's still there, linking the current GW to the very first days of inhouse production. In recent years, many of us have been concerned about the shift in aesthetic in minis and I feel without Blanche at Nottingham, that might well speed up or change the entire range and aesthetic completely, leaving us with World of Warhammercraft looks forever.

I'm off to look at a 3 headed minotaur with a back banner of the Mona Lisa!

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:


I'm off to look at a 3 headed minotaur with a back banner of the Mona Lisa!

That was so good.

Blizzard and GW have crossed swords a few times,Steam Tanks, the Zerg/ Tyranid argument.

Also Andy Chambers going to work for them. I honestly understand He has been there since the beginning and thats fine, good on him surviving the Kirby Era, But really I think he does need balance, though if the box art is as good as the SoB cover I may just buy it for that alone.

Spacehulk was good because the models were good and compatible with 40k. Dreadfleet was a joke of a game because A) the game was fairly bad and B) the models were useless for anything other than dreadfleet. Take a look at all the very successful boardgame kickstarters.. they mostly include 28mm scale models for use with 40k or similar games

GW is finally realizing this and not giving us more garbage called dreadfleet.. People like multi-use products!

Oh, and C) Dreadfleet was WFB..