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I've had very very very few PP or GW models with no mold lines. Heck, I've been modeling for 15+ years and have had to clean almost every single model I have gotten. And that includes figures from other companys like Rackham, Reaper, Wyrd, etc.

Though I will readily and proudly admit I have not bought any new GW models in nearly 4 years. Maybe they got better the last few years, but that isn't the rumors I have heard.

Also, metal models in my experience have as many mold lines as plastic and plastic is usually a lot easier to clean.

But my experience and preferences may not be typical.

 Grimtuff wrote:

Resin for man-sized models is a bad idea. We get it, you've got a man-chubby for resin and hate metal, but it's just not an appropriate material for man-sized models. Just looking at GW's finecrap will tell you that. For the cores of large models it is great as it keeps the weight down, but for man-sized models it makes them far too flimsy.

Gotta disagree with you there. Resin is just fine for man sized things, you just have to not suck at it like GW does. Granted, some of their choices of things to do in resin like the DE Wrack's backpack things are a bad choice, but the bubbles etc are a design and execution issue, not an inherent problem with resin.

 Wehrkind wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:

Resin for man-sized models is a bad idea. We get it, you've got a man-chubby for resin and hate metal, but it's just not an appropriate material for man-sized models. Just looking at GW's finecrap will tell you that. For the cores of large models it is great as it keeps the weight down, but for man-sized models it makes them far too flimsy.

Gotta disagree with you there. Resin is just fine for man sized things, you just have to not suck at it like GW does. Granted, some of their choices of things to do in resin like the DE Wrack's backpack things are a bad choice, but the bubbles etc are a design and execution issue, not an inherent problem with resin.

For display pices resin is fine but for gaming 25-35 mm humans most resin won't be a good choice due to its tendency to be brittle.

Some resin is really poor for that, yea. Ramshackle uses a very brittle resin I find. Then again, I have many, many resin models I use in games and while very thin bits are not a good idea, most are just as good as the plasticy stuff PP uses durability wise. It just depends on the material, and there are a vast amount of resins to choose from.

Of course your normal, hard plastic is best in most cases, but you can do really good things with resin, much better than GW's awful attempt.

For Minions:
1 caster, unit, light and heavy beast, 1 gargantuan each.

For Rhulic and pirates:
1 caster, unit, light and heavy jacks.

 Grimtuff wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:

 sing your life wrote:
Privateer Press needs to start offering its best selling metals in resin.

Not until they improve the quality of their plastics and fix the mold line problems.

All of PP's non-metal models have quality problems of varying degrees.

I've gotten models with mold lines that are really just unacceptable. Nothing that couldn't be fixed but really I shouldn't have to spend 20 minutes cleaning a single member of a 6 man unit. Not to mention I don't like the material because if its bent it is very difficult to get to bend back and stay put.

This.

I thought I had got out of the "piles and piles of mould lines" thing when I stopped buying GW stuff. Then I got my CoC boxes....

The problem with the Convergance miniatures seems to actually be too many delicate parts [besides recent GW miniatures have hardly any mouldlines

Resin for man-sized models is a bad idea.

No, the material is just fine for those miniatures, if you actually looked at resin models you'd know.

We get it, you've got a man-chubby for resin .

Were did you get that from?

Just looking at GW's finecast will tell you that.

But you have no experience with finecast, so you have no opinion on the material


For the cores of large models it is great as it keeps the weight down, but for man-sized models it makes them far too flimsy.

Care for some examples?

Replies are in bold.

atrocious avatar BTW.

Yea convergence battle box had way to many small pieces that people couldn't figure out what went where and that was what the online assembly guide was trying to fix.

Honestly the only real issue I have had with PP minis is that they seem to have a somewhat high level of miss packs. Most of the stuff I buy from them (primarily the boxs/kits with a single model) are fine but some of the unit boxes I have gotten they give either two of leader torso (such as for the forgeguard) or just pieces are missing (as with my stormguard leader). They are rather good about sending the parts you need if you send a report on their website though.

The plastics for PP I have had overall good success with for most things, with the exception for long polearms on my stormguard and stormblade leader. However the hot/cold method seems to work fine to fixing those.

Edit: Also peoples issues with PP plastic was brought up on the PP forum and PP did actually respond saying they are aware of the problem and working to improve the quality. Which you know is something, better than what we got from GW on finecast, as in GW never responded to the issues from what I have seen other than send replacements to those who complained. link

I would love a winterguard heavy artillery unit. Something like a howitzer.

 Zuul wrote:
I would love a winterguard heavy artillery unit. Something like a howitzer.

You mean like a field gun or a mortar? Because those could be cool.

 Mordekiem wrote:

 Zuul wrote:
I would love a winterguard heavy artillery unit. Something like a howitzer.

You mean like a field gun or a mortar? Because those could be cool.

A howitzer:



Not a howitzer:

And what would a howitzer-style cannon do that the current model doesn't?

 Kirbinator wrote:
And what would a howitzer-style cannon do that the current model doesn't?

Bigger boom longer range? I mean just give this thing some rules:

 Surtur wrote:

 Kirbinator wrote:
And what would a howitzer-style cannon do that the current model doesn't?

Bigger boom longer range? I mean just give this thing some rules:

It has rules, actually. Destroys a fifth of the enemy force every time it fires, IIRC.

Laughing Man wrote:
It has rules, actually. Destroys a fifth of the enemy force every time it fires, IIRC.

Yup! It was for a reinforcement type scenario and fired off-board. If it hit, everything in that reinforcement block died.

 Laughing Man wrote:

 Surtur wrote:

 Kirbinator wrote:
And what would a howitzer-style cannon do that the current model doesn't?

Bigger boom longer range? I mean just give this thing some rules:

It has rules, actually. Destroys a fifth of the enemy force every time it fires, IIRC.

where are these rules?

 sing your life wrote:

EDIT: I was thinking Epic Strangeways as a character Journeyman but there already is one.

Strangeways is not a Warcaster because he hasn´t got the gift. He´s extremly handy with jacks hence the pseudo-focus but he´s not a magician. At least that´s what a short story in the SiX anthology says.

War machine doesn't need D weapons...

The current "artillery" is fine. We don't need to escalate it further.

 sing your life wrote:

 Laughing Man wrote:

 Surtur wrote:

 Kirbinator wrote:
And what would a howitzer-style cannon do that the current model doesn't?

Bigger boom longer range? I mean just give this thing some rules:

It has rules, actually. Destroys a fifth of the enemy force every time it fires, IIRC.

where are these rules?

One of the older No Quarters. There's a scenario built around it, and ones around the other terrain pieces GF9 made as well.

 Mordekiem wrote:
War machine doesn't need D weapons...

The current "artillery" is fine. We don't need to escalate it further.

You sure about that?

I find that picture funny.

Looks like Nemo is going to need a change of underwear.

But then we'd be adding things in with crazy long ranges, and I'm ok without that...

Yeah, anything with a longer range than 16" would break the game. And 16" is insanely long ranged in this game.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Yeah, anything with a longer range than 16" would break the game. And 16" is insanely long ranged in this game.

Isn't the Khador mortar 20" range? I don't have my Khador book around to double check.

 Mordekiem wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
Yeah, anything with a longer range than 16" would break the game. And 16" is insanely long ranged in this game.

Isn't the Khador mortar 20" range? I don't have my Khador book around to double check.

It is, but it's borderline immobile and almost incapable of hitting anything.

And even when it does hit its not super powerful. But a howitzer would be super strong.

Not disagreeing with either of those statements. But Grey Templar said a range over 16" would break the game. And the mortar has a 20" range and the game is not broken.

A "D" weapon howitzer thingy would not make the game fun.

 Mordekiem wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
Yeah, anything with a longer range than 16" would break the game. And 16" is insanely long ranged in this game.

Isn't the Khador mortar 20" range? I don't have my Khador book around to double check.

So is one of the shot varieties for the only Heavy Artillery in the game, the Commodore.

Don't get me started on that abomination.

Thank the Creator its a character AND it can only be taken with 1 warcaster.

Cygnar has a ton of stuff that can reach 18~20" range with Snipe
Skorne Artillery can reach 22"

While I agree that 16"~22" is massive in this game, I would not go so far to say that it auto breaks the game

 Grey Templar wrote:
And even when it does hit its not super powerful. But a howitzer would be super strong.

You've never seen mortars with epic irusk. Fire for effect. Boosted hit rolls (so it's hitting def13-14 on average) and boosted damage rolls (pow16+3d6 hurts )