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flamingkillamajig wrote:I apologize if I've said something I shouldn't have as I probably just did. I'll edit that out if you wish.

Phht, please - this is the internet. I fully expect half of dakka to be perverts.

Psienesis wrote:You... don't understand how old-school Catholic Schools, or the Sisters of Battle, work... do you?
I mean, there's a *reason* that Catholic School imagery resonates so much in the BDSM scene, is because there was a whole lot of corporal mortification going on without there being any of the kinky fun-times angles. The fetish aspects arose out of the reality.

And Wh40k seems quite happy to build upon this "nunsploitation" aspect with certain pieces of fluff.
That being said, morally I don't really see how this should be any more wrong than the general glorification of violence and murder that is celebrated by the franchise.

 Lynata wrote:

flamingkillamajig wrote:I apologize if I've said something I shouldn't have as I probably just did. I'll edit that out if you wish.

Phht, please - this is the internet. I fully expect half of dakka to be perverts.

At least we're not 4chan ;P. I think anybody could do better than that though.

I'm a pervert yes but honestly the BDSM stuff is a little much for me. I probably wouldn't give up a chance to 'get it on' if I had to do some of that probably but I think I have some limits. I find it weird I'm considered a perv considering I'm not really into that as compared to some.

This is how I feel when some people talk to me.

"Dude you're a pervert and you have a problem. Excuse me one second." *gets strung up from the ceiling in a leather mask while being whipped*

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Anyway if we're beyond that little topic yeah I think sisters would be used for sacrifices to the dark gods. Something suitably horrific and painful before decorating something heretical. Possibly with some sort of horrible heresy like a halo with the 8 pointed star above their head instead of a halo and possibly something that insults the idea of the golden throne or give them a heretical version of angel's wings. Anyway loads and loads of heresy. That is all!

The things to remember about the BDSM scene are thus;

1) 50 Shades of Grey is a horrible representation and should be burned before it destroys any more potential D/s relationships.
2) There is no such thing as a domme or a sub with no limits.
3) 50 Shades of Grey is a horrible representation that twists a beautiful thing into Twilight-level abusive gak, and should be burned.
4) BDSM is mostly not about sex.
5) 50 Shades of Grey is a horrible book and should be burned just for the writing quality.
6) BDSM has a keyphrase: Safe, Sane and Consensual. If it's not safe, it's not good BDSM. If it's not sane, it's not good BDSM. If it's not Consenual, it's abuse and worse, and should be reported to the police.

I would reiterate that 50 Shades should be burned, but I think I might be belabouring the point.

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Back on topic, yes, sacrifices. Torture, all that nasty stuff that's really nothing like the other thing we're discussing. Shave their heads and brand a Chaos Mark into their scalps, play Rick Astley on a loop, that sort of thing.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
The things to remember about the BDSM scene are thus;

1) 50 Shades of Grey is a horrible representation and should be burned before it destroys any more potential D/s relationships.
2) There is no such thing as a domme or a sub with no limits.
3) 50 Shades of Grey is a horrible representation that twists a beautiful thing into Twilight-level abusive gak, and should be burned.
4) BDSM is mostly not about sex.
5) 50 Shades of Grey is a horrible book and should be burned just for the writing quality.
6) BDSM has a keyphrase: Safe, Sane and Consensual. If it's not safe, it's not good BDSM. If it's not sane, it's not good BDSM. If it's not Consenual, it's abuse and worse, and should be reported to the police.

I would reiterate that 50 Shades should be burned, but I think I might be belabouring the point.

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Back on topic, yes, sacrifices. Torture, all that nasty stuff that's really nothing like the other thing we're discussing. Shave their heads and brand a Chaos Mark into their scalps, play Rick Astley on a loop, that sort of thing.

Actually I don't have any personal experience with the BDSM thing. I have seen stuff in shows which is probably different from the truth much like pornos and late night comedy shows are fake (I've been to one and notice how for no reason the crowd's laughter comes in with 2 waves like an aftershock to an earthquake. I mean we've all had those moments of laughter....not.).

Anyway as far as BDSM goes the most I've seen actually wasn't from that. I don't know if you're aware of this web comic but have you ever heard of SpoonyOne and seen some of his stuff on 'That Guy with the Glasses'? I knew about him before that time but he did something on phantasmagoria 2 and there was a scene with Curtis being hung from a ceiling with chains. On the topic of SpoonyOne I don't really watch his stuff anymore. He doesn't really do anything anymore last I checked. It's a shame my favorite review he did was of 'The Thing' PC game. I was first aware of Spoony when a friend showed me his review of D&D dragonstrike the first time around before he edited and made it crappier in my opinion. Also everybody was excited about his final fantasy 8 review and fanboys hated him. Not going to ruin it for the most part but 'filthy multi-tasking quistis' is pretty freaking awesome.

Sorry now I'm really going off topic. Anyway torture, mayhem, destruction and puppies. The sisters will get one of these from chaos and it won't be puppies unless they have tentacles or spread STD's through hugs.

Well, this thread went to an interesting place.

Worse yet, persuade them that Rick Astley that they've come to despise IS the Emprah, then they'll feel like they've killed their loyalty.

Then make them write a summary of 50 Shades of Grey. Good literature .

Interestingly enough... 50 Shades of Grey began life as a Twilight fan-fic. No kidding. It really did.

And while I'm not saying that the Sisters of Battle are a direct BDSM imagery or element, what I am saying is that a very large number of the various kinds of corporal punishments that show up in "standard" (or, as is often called, "English") BDSM were part and parcel to life in Catholic (and other religious) schools well into the 20th century (iirc, some districts/diocese/whatever did not ban the use of the tawse or the cane until the 1970s and 80s). It is these sorts of things that the GW writers are making allusions to in their writings of the harsh lifestyle of the Sisterhood. It's like a 1950s Scottish Catholic Girls' School... in Space.

No, no, you got the tone all wrong.

Say it: "... IIIIN SPAAAACE!"

The tone goes without saying!

I mean, shoot, read my post in the thread about the origins of 40K factions...