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 trexmeyer wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 trexmeyer wrote:
We're going to just sit here and pretend that pornstars that remain in relationships with abusive men after the first assault (let alone several more) are one hundred percent mentally stable?

That was very uncalled for.

Let me guess, you're one of those people that operates under the false pretense that pornography is empowering for women and not a single woman in the business has suffered emotional trauma that led to her decision to pursue that career?

How the hell did you get that bolded part from my message?

Is MMA empowering for men or do its participants have mental health issues?

Just for the sake of balance - and variety.

can we pseudo psychologically strip down the perp and their ilk rather than the victims?

 jasper76 wrote:
There is something about this crime and others like it that causes people to look for problems in the victims life, and to give her the Miley Cyrus sideline psych evaluation.

Everybody has problems. Everybody has issues. If you scour every domestic violence case for pychological problems on the part of the victim, you'll always find them, because everyone has psychological problems, period. Not everybody gets beaten near to death, and noone deserves it, no matter what problems they may have. Whatever issues this lady may have are basically irrelevant.

I have no idea why it happens and it alot feels like an inbuilt psychological defense. People think, "This would never happen to me because the victim here has X, Y and Z." This helps them fee security and stability that every human being craves as a basic need.

Like I said, I don't really know.

 Easy E wrote:

 jasper76 wrote:
There is something about this crime and others like it that causes people to look for problems in the victims life, and to give her the Miley Cyrus sideline psych evaluation.

Everybody has problems. Everybody has issues. If you scour every domestic violence case for pychological problems on the part of the victim, you'll always find them, because everyone has psychological problems, period. Not everybody gets beaten near to death, and noone deserves it, no matter what problems they may have. Whatever issues this lady may have are basically irrelevant.

I have no idea why it happens and it alot feels like an inbuilt psychological defense. People think, "This would never happen to me because the victim here has X, Y and Z." This helps them fee security and stability that every human being craves as a basic need.

Like I said, I don't really know.

It would never happen to me because I'm a straight male exclusively interested in petite women so the odds of me being beaten to a pulp by one of them is extremely low. They could still shoot me, stab me, go baseball bat mode, drug me, cut off genitals, etc, though.

 trexmeyer wrote:

It would never happen to me because I'm a straight male exclusively interested in petite women so the odds of me being beaten to a pulp by one of them is extremely low. They could still shoot me, stab me, go baseball bat mode, drug me, cut off genitals, etc, though.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that "baseball bat* mode" involved beating someone.



*Other blunt objects are available.

I was being slightly sarcastic. I've heard of more than one story of so and so professional athlete getting beaten by his tiny wife.

I think what happened was horrible. As somebody with almost 20 years of martial arts experience I'd never raise a hand against a female (or anyone who was defenseless) and it's so infuriating to see anybody with training misusing their skills like that. Respect and self control are the core of the martial arts spirit, he clearly doesn't abide by those traditions and needs to be put down and have it done very, very painful fashion.

 focusedfire wrote:
*Please to note that mental instability does not automatically refer to mental illnesses that are physiological in nature. It can refer to psychological/emotional based problems that are enviromentally induced.

Then all you're really doing is redefining mental instability as poor decision making, in which case the argument becomes 'women who are making an objectively bad decision to stay in a relationship are women who are making at least one objectively bad decision'.


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 trexmeyer wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 trexmeyer wrote:
We're going to just sit here and pretend that pornstars that remain in relationships with abusive men after the first assault (let alone several more) are one hundred percent mentally stable?

That was very uncalled for.

Let me guess, you're one of those people that operates under the false pretense that pornography is empowering for women and not a single woman in the business has suffered emotional trauma that led to her decision to pursue that career?

You know how you said this early in the thread;
"Did you take courses on how to twist statements or does that ability come naturally?"

Maybe listen to your own snark in future.




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 jasper76 wrote:
There is something about this crime and others like it that causes people to look for problems in the victims life, and to give her the Miley Cyrus sideline psych evaluation.

Everybody has problems. Everybody has issues. If you scour every domestic violence case for pychological problems on the part of the victim, you'll always find them, because everyone has psychological problems, period. Not everybody gets beaten near to death, and noone deserves it, no matter what problems they may have. Whatever issues this lady may have are basically irrelevant.

Really well said.

 paulson games wrote:
As somebody with almost 20 years of martial arts experience I'd never raise a hand against a female (or anyone who was defenseless)

I understand the “not attacking someone defenseless”, but you would never raise a hand against a woman? You would refuse a match against a woman even if she was just as skilled as you are in martial arts?

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

I understand the “not attacking someone defenseless”, but you would never raise a hand against a woman? You would refuse a match against a woman even if she was just as skilled as you are in martial arts?

Back in highschool one of my wrestling teammates got destroyed by a woman. Granted she was nationally ranked, but he easily could have won had he not been so shy regarding touching her. The idea that a guy might be uncomfortable with hitting/grappling with a woman in a combative manner is very much understandable.

I've never been a fan of the "Never hit a woman" school of thought. Only Sith deal in absolutes.

 dogma wrote:
Granted she was nationally ranked, but he easily could have won

He was nationally ranked too?

I think what paulson means is he wouldnt beat a spouse or fremale friend or a female he met that night etc etc, then continued to add he wouldn't been anyone, including woman, who cant fight back.

Just my opinion sorry for intruding and pretending to know what you meant Paulson :/

Reports are that Dog has caught him. Here's the preliminary video (these are War Machine's pets, who he takes EVERYWHERE):




I stand corrected.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

He was nationally ranked too?

No, he was just a competent, male wrestler.

I think this is more a job for Boba Fett rather than Dog.

 dogma wrote:
No, he was just a competent, male wrestler.

There is such a big disparity between male and female wrestlers?

 PrehistoricUFO wrote:
Reports are that Dog has caught him. Here's the preliminary video (these are War Machine's pets, who he takes EVERYWHERE):

I stand corrected.

I told you Dog was the real deal.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 dogma wrote:
No, he was just a competent, male wrestler.

There is such a big disparity between male and female wrestlers?

Um, obviously? Even at the same height, weight, and leverages an average male will have significantly more potential for strength and speed than a woman. Aside from the very rare genetic anomalies men will be stronger and quicker than woman.

Also, War Machine has been caught.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 paulson games wrote:
As somebody with almost 20 years of martial arts experience I'd never raise a hand against a female (or anyone who was defenseless)

I understand the “not attacking someone defenseless”, but you would never raise a hand against a woman? You would refuse a match against a woman even if she was just as skilled as you are in martial arts?

There is a difference between a sparring match and beating somebody.

I have sparred with plenty of women when training students over the years, there is no hostile intent involved in sparring and it is an exercise and sport to develop skill. Upmost care and self control is used by all involved to avoid injuring their opponent regardless of if they are male or female.

"Raising a hand" consists of beating or assaulting someone with intent to inflict harm, pain, or injury on the other person, which is an entirely different scenario and one I would not resort to.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 dogma wrote:
No, he was just a competent, male wrestler.

There is such a big disparity between male and female wrestlers?

Sexual dimorphism.

Hope 'War Machine' gets a proper sentence. This whole story has really opened my eye to how many scumbags there are on the internet, some of the sites I've been on the overall vibe has been she's a whore and deserves it, glad it hasn't been like that on here.

I just realized the title of the thread is a 70's Country Ballad.

 Ahtman wrote:
I just realized the title of the thread is a 70's Country Ballad.

It's a reference to The Dark Tower.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
I just realized the title of the thread is a 70's Country Ballad.

It's a reference to The Dark Tower.

Now I remember that line.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that a semi-famous man with a physique that will draw attention, who had no plans to flee and presumably no connections to the underworld to help protect him is going to be one of the easier kinds of people for a bounty hunter to catch, no matter how many muscles the semi-famous person has. This is because the actual hard bit is finding out where the person is, the bit where you and five of your mates grab descend on him while he's unaware and spray mace in his face is the easy bit.

Say what you want, that Dog character is a smart man who knows how to play things for the tv. Coming out of retirement to take on a guy that everyone thinks is a total ass, in a case that would have looked way harder than it probably really was is very smart.

Perp has been arrested by police in California.