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Again, Congrats mate keep it up

All exercise you do depends on your goal. I am well-muscled, but more athletic as my wife and I frequently run marathons and being very muscled would be a giant disadvantage, not to mention that the amount of running already limits the amount of muscle we could build. If you aim for big muscles, you won't do much cardio.

 Sigvatr wrote:
All exercise you do depends on your goal. I am well-muscled, but more athletic as my wife and I frequently run marathons and being very muscled would be a giant disadvantage, not to mention that the amount of running already limits the amount of muscle we could build. If you aim for big muscles, you won't do much cardio.

I'm a hooker for my local rugby club... and this is quite correct. I know I need to run more, but I'd rather spend more time lifting than running

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
All exercise you do depends on your goal. I am well-muscled, but more athletic as my wife and I frequently run marathons and being very muscled would be a giant disadvantage, not to mention that the amount of running already limits the amount of muscle we could build. If you aim for big muscles, you won't do much cardio.

I'm a hooker for my local rugby club... and this is quite correct. I know I need to run more, but I'd rather spend more time lifting than running

Man, rugby has its own hookers? Lucky

theres a fine line between being healthy and being in "shape", i agree alot of folks (gamers among others) let themselves go and end up a bib fortuna short of being jabba the hut. But getting off your ass and moving(burning what you intake) is far more important then pumping iron or watching what you eat, yes i agree food choices do have big impacts but a candy bar or a coke isen't going to turn you into the blob. The big elephant in the room is that society now a days has forged a double edged sword, where food is engineered to be cheap and fast(and made out of pure gak) society has also made it easier for us to be lazy via technology, if i'm hungry i can just fire up my smart phone and wait for the nail in the coffin AKA delivered grease saturated food to come to my door. Lastly, society has brainwashed us to think that healthy is having wash board abs, and biceps the size of water melons..which is not accurate either but forces people into a war of attriction with their self esteem. Oh and i wiegh 160 pounds, eat whatever i want(i avoid sugar and high fructose corn syrup) consume beer, caffiene, tobbaco..heres the catch i get two full scale medical exams twice a year(comes with the industry i'm in) and i'm 100% healthy, the key is to get off your ass and move, and some what police what you(go for the peanuts over the snickers for a snack). For those of you who aren't happy with yourselves, don't get caught up in that "go pump iron 8 hours a day" and eat 10 pounds of boiled chicken breasts to be healthy. Evaluate your daily habits, find the flaws and make adjustments..if your job requires you to sit in a chair half the day with mcdonalds daily for lunch, then maybe start packing a lunch and walking to work...

Crimson Heretic wrote:
theres a fine line between being healthy and being in "shape", i agree alot of folks (gamers among others) let themselves go and end up a bib fortuna short of being jabba the hut. But getting off your ass and moving(burning what you intake) is far more important then pumping iron or watching what you eat

Eh...no. If you want to lose fat, gain muscles and watch what you eat. Period. Want to lose fat? Lift weights. Cardio is always good to have, but what really gets that nasty fat burning is a nice set of muscles. More muscles = more fat burning.

No need for a special "secret" diet though. Cut down on carbohydrates really hard, rather eat more proteines. There. Add exercise. Done. You'll be healthy in a few weeks. Highly, highly recommend doing HIIT. Really gets you past your limits and extremely effective at burning calories, especially when you don't have much time at hand.

 Sigvatr wrote:
If you aim for big muscles, you won't do much cardio.

That really depends on how much time, and money, you have...and what sort of cardio you're talking about.

 Sigvatr wrote:
Cardio is always good to have, but what really gets that nasty fat burning is a nice set of muscles. More muscles = more fat burning.

Yeah. The more muscle you have the more calories you will burn at rest, and you only burn adipose tissue at rest.

I do alot of cardio and a lot of weights more on the strength training side though

so i can run fast and fairly well and then left really good

Eat less carbs, lift heavy.

I recently picked up hiking as a major form of weekly fitness. Trying to condition for my first post-undergrad hiking filled summer. And I gotta say, something about the low-impact, repetition of hiking for hours is super rewarding both physically and mentally.
Luckily none of my friends want to tabletop early on Saturday mornings anyway.

Anyone ever have this before? I lost alot of weight, but it seems as if my beer belly is not changing at alll, sort of like its getting bigger. But I continue to loose weight.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Anyone ever have this before? I lost alot of weight, but it seems as if my beer belly is not changing at alll, sort of like its getting bigger. But I continue to loose weight.

Probably not quite the same thing, but when I was in HS, I was under 10% bf, and the more I worked out, the more my "gut" stuck out (I never had a six pack, yet I had very strong abs/lower back muscles)

If you look at pro, or even top level amateur bodybuilders, it's kind of the same thing, some of them look like they have distended "beer bellies", even though they have ridiculously defined muscles. Perhaps someone better with anatomy can help me here, but I have a theory that some muscles just will not grow "out" and instead, grow "in" which pushes other things out... In this case, I would think that lower back muscles are growing "in" which pushes the abs out further? Again, it's just a theory I have, and I could be way off in left field, trying to play cricket when everyone else is playing baseball.

Despite all the junk-science talk and pretending that is is all just about calories in and calories out, specific nutrition does have a specific effect on the body.

Lots of refined carbs *stares at Twinkie* will increase your insulin production, which will cause your body to store more belly fat.

You can brute force weight loss by simple mathematics, but in the end nutrition will be your friend.

 d-usa wrote:

You can brute force weight loss by simple mathematics, but in the end nutrition will be your friend.

I hope I haven't come across as one of the junk science types... however, I will have to agree with you here... The owner of the gym I go to, and future trainer, has often told me that the quickest way to see results in the gym is to fix the diet. While my wife was out in the field, I largely did that, and I feel like I'm already seeing/feeling results from that.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Anyone ever have this before? I lost alot of weight, but it seems as if my beer belly is not changing at alll, sort of like its getting bigger. But I continue to loose weight.

You're a man. That's the problem. Men tend to focus fat in the belly region first. Always approach the ladies from the front

 trexmeyer wrote:
Eat less carbs, lift heavy.

Spoiler:

the main issue with this thought is that your body needs those carbs to create energy, protein is the building block for muscle but carbs give you the fuel to build muscle...i'm saying good carbs like whole wheat pasta, not a bag of chips. If all you consume is protein, then your going to damage your body and feth up your liver in the long term, carbs/protein pre work out, amino acids and protein post workout for recovery. Lifting weights is not the answer for self esteem or being healthy always.

I am, in the words of Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, a disgusting fatbody. 330 lbs and 6'1". So... I think it is about time I put down the fork and got out some more. My idea is thus: I am trying to build an Elfdar army and I am trying to lose weight. Why not combine the two? For every 10 lbs I lose I get a new unit. Nothing too expensive just a squad or a tank. Once at goal weight I'll get a revenant titan.

 TheCustomLime wrote:
I am, in the words of Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, a disgusting fatbody. 330 lbs and 6'1".

Your "profile" says So Cal, if I may suggest... go check out a local rugby club. Firstly, being a rugby player myself, I will tell you that, in my experience ruggers are the most welcoming bunch of new blood into the sport. Secondly, we really don't care if you've ever played, or don't think you're a good athlete, we can/will teach you basically everything you need to know. The "startup" investment isn't very much, some boots and a gumshield (aka, "Concussion proofing" lol) to start off with. And lastly, if you make it to/through that first match with a club and see game time, you'll be hooked; And honestly, I don't have any closer brothers than my rugby brothers.


All the running/cardio and work you put in on the rugby pitch will definitely get you trimming down, even if you don't necessarily lose the weight

 TheCustomLime wrote:
I am, in the words of Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, a disgusting fatbody. 330 lbs and 6'1". So... I think it is about time I put down the fork and got out some more. My idea is thus: I am trying to build an Elfdar army and I am trying to lose weight. Why not combine the two? For every 10 lbs I lose I get a new unit. Nothing too expensive just a squad or a tank. Once at goal weight I'll get a revenant titan.

Awesome i love it!
be sure to keep us updated! on the army and the weight loss buddy!
work hard and game hard !
FMJ

 d-usa wrote:
Despite all the junk-science talk and pretending that is is all just about calories in and calories out, specific nutrition does have a specific effect on the body.

Lots of refined carbs *stares at Twinkie* will increase your insulin production, which will cause your body to store more belly fat.

You can brute force weight loss by simple mathematics, but in the end nutrition will be your friend.

I don't think anyone is really arguing that a proper diet isn't the key to loosing weight and working out. When it really comes down to it, diet is 70% of working out.

Yup.If you're trying to lose weight just working hard at the gym after a trip to the buffet isn't going to work. An hour's worth of exercise basically loses the equivalent of a burger or so depending on how hard you work out. You have to combine both for great success.

I think some people can just be too hard on themselves as well. Getting in shape shouldn't consume your life(unless its your job) but it should be something your cognicent of. I work out 4 to 5 times a week depending on my schedule. But if I want to do something I have no problem skipping my workout. Just like my diet, I eat a low carb diet most of the time, but I'm not afraid to enjoy a burger and beer here and there. Moderation is the key to everything...

Avid gym (if relatively new, 1.5 years training now) gym rat and wargamer here. I've been lifting for a year and love it. My current 1 rep maxes are:
deadlift: 255 lbs
Squat: 185 lbs
bench: 165 lbs

I'm 18 years old, 5 foot 7 inches and weigh in at 144 pounds. I am currently leaning out to 10 % body fat (currently about 13), I am really struggling with this though as I have never leaned out before (but I played sports my whole life so I was never above 15% really).

I do have a problem that runs a bit deeper than being hungry eating 2k calories a day haha. I love wargaming but no one in my local meta is in shape, so I feel like my fitness is all for nothing as nobody I socialize with admires or cares about it. This is very demoralizing for me and is not helping with achieving my goals! Anybody who has been/is in the same situation have thoughts on this?

 mitch_rifle wrote:
I do alot of cardio and a lot of weights more on the strength training side though

so i can run fast and fairly well and then left really good

Zoolander would be proud.

This thread has inspired me, i shall start getting fit as a means to give away the smokes.

MaxZ wrote:

I do have a problem that runs a bit deeper than being hungry eating 2k calories a day haha. I love wargaming but no one in my local meta is in shape, so I feel like my fitness is all for nothing as nobody I socialize with admires or cares about it. This is very demoralizing for me and is not helping with achieving my goals! Anybody who has been/is in the same situation have thoughts on this?

Personally, and this is IMHO, if you are wanting your fitness to be admired and/or cared about, you may be into it for the wrong reason.... I personally haven't gotten back into it for kudos, nor even as much as I love them, for the rugby club. I'm doing it for ME. *I* want to be strong as an ox, *I* am tired of being a "disgusting fatbody" (to quote Gnny. Sgt. Hartman), *I* love lifting. Hopefully that makes some sense??

I mean, I suppose if you are going into it for admiration or outside attention to your physique, perhaps you could look into going fully down the body building rabbit hole?

The reason doesn't matter. Even if you're just doing it to impress or get laid, you're doing your body a giant favor. Anything is better than being fat.

 Sigvatr wrote:
The reason doesn't matter. Even if you're just doing it to impress or get laid, you're doing your body a giant favor. Anything is better than being fat.

The reason does matter as it necessarily affects what you consider "in shape" to be, and what you're willing to do to remain "in shape".

When I want to get in shape fast, I cut my carb...to zero if need be for a week and I loose almost 1 kg a day. I eat veggies and protine as much as I want. I know this is not healthy, but healthier than being fat. Oh and I only do this about one week and then, I slowly get back into normal healthy diet.

So if you want to loose.
Stop carbohydrates
Exercise
See the result in day two. Your body feels tighter and the fat you loose comes off the face. Your stomache get smaller, so your gut shrink by a centimeter.
Get the push start you need, start this plan and by day 7th, you have drop at least 3 kg.

I'm down to 208-210, anti-depressants ballooned me about 70 pounds, and a bunch of that fell off after I got off the meds. My real issue for weight loss is that I can't run or do high impact stuff, so I do yoga and try to eat well.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I'm down to 208-210, anti-depressants ballooned me about 70 pounds, and a bunch of that fell off after I got off the meds. My real issue for weight loss is that I can't run or do high impact stuff, so I do yoga and try to eat well.

Yep. Been there. Anti-Depressants are truly terrible. You absolutely need them but the weight loss is just frustrating as feth.

Have you tried a cross-trainer yet? Low impact, full body exercise, not that expensive anymore.


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david choe wrote:
When I want to get in shape fast, I cut my carb...to zero if need be for a week and I loose almost 1 kg a day. I eat veggies and protine as much as I want. I know this is not healthy, but healthier than being fat.

Eh...no, it isn't. In the contrary.

Being fat is unhealthy in the long run. Not getting any carbohydrates is extremely detrimental in the short run as your brain absolutely requires them to work properly. I could make a joke about a carbohydrate defiency and your posts, but I'll refrain. Never, ever, stop taking Carbohydrates completely. It's a super dumb move.