niv-mizzet wrote:There is no option for my vote.
"No, but it needs LESS special rules."
I've been saying this for years now.
Go back to a 2ed revised model. 2ed had some great ideas and mechanics but it had it's problems too. Fix CC
, the physic phase and tone the codexes down while adding a proper foc
and we're off to the races.
KingmanHighborn wrote:I like a d6 system, it's super easy for anyone to get d6s by the bunches needed.
That said, a consolidated rulebook, like the 3rd ed. One is what's needed, and a return to the 3rd ed. Rules. There is too many rules, units, and bs that needs the fat trimmed. They also need to bring back the concept of only being able to play special characters, with opponents permission, and if the army is x amount of points. Flyers just need to be skimmers, unbound outlawed, and the ability to take buildings done away with. ADLs and the like should have never been a thing.
Eliminate at least half the special rules and wargear, go for the level of detail 3rd edition had (a power weapon is a power weapon is a power weapon).
Azazelx wrote:I'd strip it back to something much more like 3rd edition, but with universal special rules added in to cover contingencies and unique units - in the same way that Kings of War has them. Rather than piles of unique special rules scattered across many, many codices and other Datafax/dataslate/formation/etc sources. Not sure if that counts as a "complete rewrite" since it'd much more be stripping back the bloat to the core that worked very well, and then carefully adding the more fluffy layers back in an (ideally) balanced and measured way.
Wow, great minds think alike.
Manchu wrote: Phydox wrote:
You might end up with a simple "beer and pretzels" game
As opposed to ... ?
There is a lot of AoSphobia among 40k
players - but it really seems like AoS
is based on 6E and 7E 40k
. Although I don't currently play it myself, AoS
currently gets a ton of play in my group. It's not a perfect game but it is fast and fun, two fronts where 40k
could stand to improve. I think 40k
will be "AoS
-ified," except this will really just mean that 40k
will continue down the path it is already on and has been on for a number of years now. Unlike with WHFB
, there is no reason to "blow up" the setting to accomplish this.
WFB didn't need the setting blown up either.