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Ah, those guys are just weird.

 Slayer le boucher wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
Just remembered one.

Poeple who argue over rules/models you used 4 days after the game ended, because they are sore loosers...

Just had a discussion with a guy, that apparently i used rules from 2 different codexes with my Possessed unit( after discussion i still don't understand where that comes from, the guy though that the +1A and Init mutation was actually 2 separate mutations, even though i've showed him the mutation chart in the KDK codex)...

I'd rather not have a 15 minute debate on how to rule something in-game. Agree on how to handle it for that game, then research it later.

Afterwards, if I look something up and see that we did something wrong, I have no problem telling you so that we don't do it wrong again.

There is a difference in doing something wrong, and you find out/remember it a few days after, then there is nothing wrong, you did use the unit/rule how it is described/intended and then the guy comes back and says that you played it wrong...

i mean how can i play the Possesssed wrongs?, the mutation says that you get +1 A and Init, so whats so confusing about it?...

I understand. If they are still wrong and butt-hurt about it, that's on them

 Verviedi wrote:
People who ask for a game, and then start deploying while I'm writing my list.

Meh, if you're not prepared and need to write your list on the spot, I can totally understand an opponent wanting to make a start rather than sitting around twiddling their thumbs while you do your homework.


Frankly, I'd be more likely to just go and find a different opponent the moment it turns out you don't have a list ready to go.

I dislike lists that are VERY unfluffy. I get that many things can be explained away fluffwise, but WHY is that imperial knight fighting alongside those dark eldar?

The Adeptus Mechanicus have made deals (or a deal, at least) with the Dark Eldar before...

War Kitten wrote:
I dislike lists that are VERY unfluffy. I get that many things can be explained away fluffwise, but WHY is that imperial knight fighting alongside those dark eldar?

"But the Tyranids recognised the Imperial Knights as useful allies and decided to join forces with them." ~Quote from a Imperial Knights/Flyrants list player in a tournament I attended.

Somehow he still lost every game.

You can't argue with that kind of logic...

You CAN, but it isn't worth your time.

I recall a few players in my local area would get SERIOUSLY worked up about relatively minor setbacks in games. Their Thousand Sons would fail saves or something and boom, off they'd go, getting aggressive and yelling at their miniatures/the dice/God almighty or whoever else they thought was responsible. Can't say I enjoy that sort of behaviour. Kinda ruins the whole game, really.

Other than that, an extremely minor and entirely ridiculous peeve I have is the nickname of "space communists" for T'au. They're... really not very communist at all, so I've always found that a bit confusing. However, that's literally the most minor gripe I have, and I'm aware it's kind of a silly one.

I have always wondered where the name "Space Communists" come from. It does not reflect their government or economic systems. Is it a relic of older fluff, or just something that an uninformed person made up?

 insaniak wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
I always pick up successes when I roll (it's so much easier to gather up your hits and roll them all to see if you wound) and it did not really strike me that you'd pick up failures too just to decieve your opponent.

I combine both... Pick up the failures and put them aside, leaving the successes on the table so that my opponent can see them, and then pick those up for the next roll. Keeps it all transparent.

I make exceptions for things like overwatch and ork shooting. As a courtesy I point out the dice I'm pulling and go slow so the opponent can verify that I'm pulling hits before I pull them.

I think the whole "space communist" thing is something that someone made up, and over time it was picked up by other players until most people thought of the tau as space communists

War Kitten wrote:
I think the whole "space communist" thing is something that someone made up, and over time it was picked up by other players until most people thought of the tau as space communists

Sounds about right. Probably someone heard the term "greater good" and completely misunderstood what that implied. Aw well.

 the Signless wrote:

War Kitten wrote:
I dislike lists that are VERY unfluffy. I get that many things can be explained away fluffwise, but WHY is that imperial knight fighting alongside those dark eldar?

"But the Tyranids recognised the Imperial Knights as useful allies and decided to join forces with them." ~Quote from a Imperial Knights/Flyrants list player in a tournament I attended.

Somehow he still lost every game.

I like 'nids. And I do like the small amount of fluff I've read about them so far. I know some people complain it's not all that deep, but I've always loved swarming, getting up close and personal, and destroying in games, so I think it's great!

Now let's say for a minute these particular 'nids DID decide that some IK were useful allies and try to form this army. Then what? The 'nids casually stroll up while the IK shoot the hell out of them? Even if they could get close it's not like they could then communicate effectively. If they've not yet managed to inform the IoM of their name how are they supposed to go "whoa guys!! We're chill. Let's team up and kick some "??

Nids: *We are super cool and we want to hang with you, bro!*

IK1: "It looks like they are trying to communicate... Shall I open fire?"
IK2: "But of course!"

Nids: *No! We were going to find bitches and blow!*

Splat!

Now all I can think about at work is space coke and xenos bitches.

Thanks, kronk. Thanks.

Lists designed to win above all else.

I get the fact that it's a game, winning is good. And then you get the type of person who has clearly spent a great amount of time thinking up a list which guarantees a win, with zero fun to play, the other player being a formality, effectivley turning up with a shotgun to a knife fight.

Case in point.

750 points (6th ed eldar)

HQ - Avatar of Khaine

Troops - 2 Squads Guardians w/ Brigtlances

Heavy Support - 2x Wraithknight.

As was once writtten in White dwarf "If our opponent has had a bad experience because of us, then we've failed in our task as wargamers."

I dislike people who have ridiculously strong lists and go into every game complaining that they're going to lose and/or don't understand why nobody seems to have fun against them. It's like, dude, I've never seen you lose let alone not table someone, it's not "army hate" that's making you not get games..

 Skellgrimm wrote:
Lists designed to win above all else.

I get the fact that it's a game, winning is good. And then you get the type of person who has clearly spent a great amount of time thinking up a list which guarantees a win, with zero fun to play, the other player being a formality, effectivley turning up with a shotgun to a knife fight.

Case in point.

750 points (6th ed eldar)

HQ - Avatar of Khaine

Troops - 2 Squads Guardians w/ Brigtlances

Heavy Support - 2x Wraithknight.

As was once writtten in White dwarf "If our opponent has had a bad experience because of us, then we've failed in our task as wargamers."

So in addition to being an ass-hat, he was also cheating? That was more than 750 points, even in 6th edition.

Man, I already think my genestealers just look like lonely xenos looking for some hugs, now I know that they're so chill because they've been on space blow! It all makes sense now!

 the Signless wrote:

War Kitten wrote:
I dislike lists that are VERY unfluffy. I get that many things can be explained away fluffwise, but WHY is that imperial knight fighting alongside those dark eldar?

"But the Tyranids recognised the Imperial Knights as useful allies and decided to join forces with them." ~Quote from a Imperial Knights/Flyrants list player in a tournament I attended.

Somehow he still lost every game.

Are you guys even trying? This is an easy one - the Knights are defending against a tendril of a Hive Fleet on some planet when another foe descends upon their battle. The Tyranids divert their attention to this new threat and the Knights decide "well, maybe as long as we don't tick the bugs off, we'll live long enough to get out of here! Might as well take down some Chaos/Xenos/Imperials who thought we weren't dying fast enough as we try to distance ourselves from the bugs!"


Alternatively: genestealer infestation of a Knight House. The Knights will help win the battle and then walk themselves in to (I don't remember why I can't remember the actual name of them) Assimilation Pits? The pools of acid and biomass the Tyranids dump everything into.

Alternatively: The Knights are outfitted with highly experimental technology that sends out enough psychic signals to flood out even the Hive Mind's chittering horror, cutting off smaller splinter fleets and allowing a limited amount of control of their actions.

You're just not forging the narrative hard enough, guys.

Rihgu wrote:

 the Signless wrote:

War Kitten wrote:
I dislike lists that are VERY unfluffy. I get that many things can be explained away fluffwise, but WHY is that imperial knight fighting alongside those dark eldar?

"But the Tyranids recognised the Imperial Knights as useful allies and decided to join forces with them." ~Quote from a Imperial Knights/Flyrants list player in a tournament I attended.

Somehow he still lost every game.

Are you guys even trying? This is an easy one - the Knights are defending against a tendril of a Hive Fleet on some planet when another foe descends upon their battle. The Tyranids divert their attention to this new threat and the Knights decide "well, maybe as long as we don't tick the bugs off, we'll live long enough to get out of here! Might as well take down some Chaos/Xenos/Imperials who thought we weren't dying fast enough as we try to distance ourselves from the bugs!"


Alternatively: genestealer infestation of a Knight House. The Knights will help win the battle and then walk themselves in to (I don't remember why I can't remember the actual name of them) Assimilation Pits? The pools of acid and biomass the Tyranids dump everything into.

Alternatively: The Knights are outfitted with highly experimental technology that sends out enough psychic signals to flood out even the Hive Mind's chittering horror, cutting off smaller splinter fleets and allowing a limited amount of control of their actions.

You're just not forging the narrative hard enough, guys.

I definitely prefer to think they're just out for space hookers and space blow.

Now I want to see an imperial knight with the top,hatch popped, a guy hanging out the top holding a pair of bolt pistols, with two of those dark elder slave girl models on either side of his cockpit.

Of course the walker itself should be decked out in gold chains and be walking through 'snow'.

that is amazing.

thank you crazyterran for that image. I am forever in you debt

People who simply cannot resist the urge to tell you why "that wouldn't happen" when a player makes a fluff/army design decision that hasn't been documented in a codex or novel. Gods forbid someone uses their imagination.

Lists that are designed to hard counter your army. There is nothing that pisses me off more than this, especially when its a friendly game.

Orks vs. SM

SM: im gonna bring 3 Vindicators and spam flamers like theres no tomorrow!!

Me: dude really???

For the record my Ork list was infantry heavy and i despise Bikers and hate putting Trukks together, so my Orks walked. Also this was 6 ed, so no Green Tide. Its like "Dude its a friendly game, just show up with an all comers list"

This behavior is why i showed up with a surprise Tzeentch Daemon army in 5th, it was the first time he was ever tabled, and no i dont feel bad. I actually still call that list, Surprise its Daemons!!

1. Playing a game and the opposition getting distracted and walking away.

2. Getting dragged into teaching kids how to play (depends on how well behaved they are but half the time they walk off, I'm a consumer not a teacher. It's fine if I'm at a FLGS but at a gw it's pretty poor show.)

3. Lack of terrain.

4. Playing guard and having to pack away my models. Takes longer than my own turn most of the time.

 Grimmor wrote:
Lists that are designed to hard counter your army. There is nothing that pisses me off more than this, especially when its a friendly game.

Orks vs. SM

SM: im gonna bring 3 Vindicators and spam flamers like theres no tomorrow!!

Me: dude really???

For the record my Ork list was infantry heavy and i despise Bikers and hate putting Trukks together, so my Orks walked. Also this was 6 ed, so no Green Tide. Its like "Dude its a friendly game, just show up with an all comers list"

This behavior is why i showed up with a surprise Tzeentch Daemon army in 5th, it was the first time he was ever tabled, and no i dont feel bad. I actually still call that list, Surprise its Daemons!!

While intentional list tailoring against a specific opponent is bad sportsmanship, are you sure that wasn't his idea of a "TAC" list? Certain armies do get a lot more mileage out of flamers than others.

The other thing to consider is that sometimes somebody just manages to bring the list that is the hard counter to your own. Not in an intentional way, but that yo simply don't have a good answer for.

 TheNewBlood wrote:

 Grimmor wrote:
Lists that are designed to hard counter your army. There is nothing that pisses me off more than this, especially when its a friendly game.

Orks vs. SM

SM: im gonna bring 3 Vindicators and spam flamers like theres no tomorrow!!

Me: dude really???

For the record my Ork list was infantry heavy and i despise Bikers and hate putting Trukks together, so my Orks walked. Also this was 6 ed, so no Green Tide. Its like "Dude its a friendly game, just show up with an all comers list"

This behavior is why i showed up with a surprise Tzeentch Daemon army in 5th, it was the first time he was ever tabled, and no i dont feel bad. I actually still call that list, Surprise its Daemons!!

While intentional list tailoring against a specific opponent is bad sportsmanship, are you sure that wasn't his idea of a "TAC" list? Certain armies do get a lot more mileage out of flamers than others.

The other thing to consider is that sometimes somebody just manages to bring the list that is the hard counter to your own. Not in an intentional way, but that yo simply don't have a good answer for.

He brings a different list to fight the Crons and another fight my Daemons and a third for Guardsmen. It was annoying as hell, it got so bad at one point i seriously considered making the Deff Rolla Blitzkrieg. Its the IA list that lets you field like 12 Def Rollas. Basically he made a Tournaent list and the rest of us are just making fun lists. Its not cool. Its also why my Orks are currently shelved, i dont have fun playing them right now. Adeptus Mechanicus on the other hand....

 the Signless wrote:

War Kitten wrote:
I dislike lists that are VERY unfluffy. I get that many things can be explained away fluffwise, but WHY is that imperial knight fighting alongside those dark eldar?

"But the Tyranids recognised the Imperial Knights as useful allies and decided to join forces with them." ~Quote from a Imperial Knights/Flyrants list player in a tournament I attended.

Somehow he still lost every game.

Durning invasions needs use parasites, and genestealers can infect people so they do what they want. They can also use psykers to force the pilot to obey. As other races goes, some of the knights are soldiers of fortune and those work for anyone that buys them.

I hate long set up times, and any point where people talk about how good their unit is. And wasting time between rolls