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A compilation of all the new footage from the Battlefront Planets site:



Because we've all been waiting 10 years for a Gonk droid escort mission... I look forward to DLCs allowing you to substitute the slow Gonk for a speedy little Mouse Droid (Imperials only, of course), an Astromech that has all kinds of plot-requirement gadgets or a Protocol Droid that just won't shut up!

 Kanluwen wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
So the extra $10 goodie bag sounds worthless. Time to drop back down to a standard pre-order. Still hyper excited for release date.

Serious question here:

Why would you preorder the "Deluxe Edition" to begin with? It's been very clear that it comes solely with early access to weapons since the preorders went up.

Made the pre-order in May, and had been told it came with a bunch of extra stuff. I didn't look it up, but saw by accident one day what the "extra stuff" was. Decided it isn't worth getting, I'll save the $10 to spend elsewhere.

 timetowaste85 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
So the extra $10 goodie bag sounds worthless. Time to drop back down to a standard pre-order. Still hyper excited for release date.

Serious question here:

Why would you preorder the "Deluxe Edition" to begin with? It's been very clear that it comes solely with early access to weapons since the preorders went up.

Made the pre-order in May, and had been told it came with a bunch of extra stuff. I didn't look it up, but saw by accident one day what the "extra stuff" was. Decided it isn't worth getting, I'll save the $10 to spend elsewhere.

Back when it first went up for preorder, I listed exactly what it was just to help people avoid this situation!

Psh. Who has time to read anymore.

3 days and 5+ hours! *twitch*
Already requested Tuesday off so I can play all day. My roommate has to work. Mwahahahahaha!! (We work for same company, hence evil laugh)

According to a video I saw earlier from someone who played the full launch version at a DICE event, here's what's actually in the game:

16 maps
11 online game modes
4 Survival co-op/single player levels (including one that looks like it can be played offline in single player with AI troops)
5 'Missions' (specific 'levels' that are basically 'training' for the game)

11 primary weapon options
24 secondary weapon/gear options
157 aesthetic options
6 playable heroes, 2 playable 'hero' ships


And from the DLC:
16 more maps over 4 expansions (don't know if they're including the free Jakku one in that)
4 more heroes
4 more game modes

20+ new 'weapons, vehicles and equipment options'
Season Pass gets all expansions 2 weeks early.

Seems like plenty to me.

The 16 maps thing is really...dubious. What they actually did was making 4 maps and cutting them in parts (roughly).

In general, severly disappointed. The entire game is a dumbified Battlefield game with a Star Wars skin. The game had so much potential to reenact famous moments of Star Wars history, with you right into the battles that made Star Wars history.

And all we get is a Battlefield clone with the depth of your average Call of Duty. What a letdown.

 Sigvatr wrote:
And all we get is a Battlefield clone with the depth of your average Call of Duty. What a letdown.

You clearly haven't played Battlefield

It's a lot better. More maps, more guns, better gameplay. Can't take anyone saying "it's a Battlefield clone" seriously, because it's far from that.

 Sigvatr wrote:
The 16 maps thing is really...dubious. What they actually did was making 4 maps and cutting them in parts (roughly).

Okay, so?

That's what Battlefield 4 did. People loved it because there became a kind of "story" to the maps, especially when played in the DICE rotation.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
And all we get is a Battlefield clone with the depth of your average Call of Duty. What a letdown.

You clearly haven't played Battlefield

It's a lot better. More maps, more guns, better gameplay. Can't take anyone saying "it's a Battlefield clone" seriously, because it's far from that.

Dumbified.

 Sigvatr wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
And all we get is a Battlefield clone with the depth of your average Call of Duty. What a letdown.

You clearly haven't played Battlefield

It's a lot better. More maps, more guns, better gameplay. Can't take anyone saying "it's a Battlefield clone" seriously, because it's far from that.

Dumbified.

Dumbified beyong recognition, then, seeing as it plays nothing like it.

I'm happy, and I'm freaking loving the fighter squadron. I've only had one match that was rough-all others I've rocked.

I think the big takeaway is that the first two BF games existed when online play was still in its infancy. Now, online MP is the main drive. I miss the "story" missions of BF 1&2, but this one is still tons of fun. It's just changed. And change can be very hard on some. Me, I'm working to adapt. And there is nothing more satisfying than watching a TIE fighter disappear in a puff of smoke.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
And all we get is a Battlefield clone with the depth of your average Call of Duty. What a letdown.

You clearly haven't played Battlefield

It's a lot better. More maps, more guns, better gameplay. Can't take anyone saying "it's a Battlefield clone" seriously, because it's far from that.

I'm sorry, I can't let this one slide. I'll give you the point on more maps, as technically speaking this is correct even though each game mode of Battlefront only goes through 3 or 4 maps whereas Battlefield allows every map to be played on every game mode, but even then... Battlefront's map design is pretty bad, and is sorely lacking by comparison to Battlefield 4's maps. Battlefront maps are incredibly linear and don't offer nearly the same opportunities for flanking and maneuver as Battlefield's maps do.

More guns? Are you serious? Have you ever even played Battlefield 4? There are 11 main guns to choose from in Battlefront. That's about as many as you'd find in a single class of weapon in Battlefield. Furthermore, guns in Battlefield have a lot more to set them apart from each other than in Battlefront, and that's before you even get into the complexity of weapon attachments. In Battlefront weapons only differ in 2 ways: rate of fire and damage. That's it.

Better gameplay? I know that this is entirely subjective, but as far as shooters go Battlefront is so incredibly shallow. There are no classes, and while you can kit yourself out to do different things you don't have nearly the same variety of gadgets or gameplay as you do in Battlefield 4. The vehicular combat is incredibly archaic. I mean seriously, when was the last time you played a game where all vehicles were powerups littered across the map? At least in Call of Duty you have to get kill streaks first. Where are my anti-tank mines? Repair tools? Where are my counter measures? Where's my variable weapon loadout on the vehicles themselves? None of it is there.

The only thing this game does well is give you something pretty to look at and nice to listen to, and on these accounts it's a stellar game. It looks gorgeous and sounds just like the movies. If that's all you're looking for, that's great. But a better game than Battlefield? That is really stretching it.

Does anyone know if the AI kills count toward your KD ratio? On ground I am even at best but in the air I'm on the top almost every time, so just curious. Plus is there a dakka group nerding out on this game?

 creeping-deth87 wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
And all we get is a Battlefield clone with the depth of your average Call of Duty. What a letdown.

You clearly haven't played Battlefield

It's a lot better. More maps, more guns, better gameplay. Can't take anyone saying "it's a Battlefield clone" seriously, because it's far from that.

I'm sorry, I can't let this one slide. I'll give you the point on more maps, as technically speaking this is correct even though each game mode of Battlefront only goes through 3 or 4 maps whereas Battlefield allows every map to be played on every game mode, but even then... Battlefront's map design is pretty bad, and is sorely lacking by comparison to Battlefield 4's maps. Battlefront maps are incredibly linear and don't offer nearly the same opportunities for flanking and maneuver as Battlefield's maps do.

More guns? Are you serious? Have you ever even played Battlefield 4? There are 11 main guns to choose from in Battlefront. That's about as many as you'd find in a single class of weapon in Battlefield. Furthermore, guns in Battlefield have a lot more to set them apart from each other than in Battlefront, and that's before you even get into the complexity of weapon attachments. In Battlefront weapons only differ in 2 ways: rate of fire and damage. That's it.

Better gameplay? I know that this is entirely subjective, but as far as shooters go Battlefront is so incredibly shallow. There are no classes, and while you can kit yourself out to do different things you don't have nearly the same variety of gadgets or gameplay as you do in Battlefield 4. The vehicular combat is incredibly archaic. I mean seriously, when was the last time you played a game where all vehicles were powerups littered across the map? At least in Call of Duty you have to get kill streaks first. Where are my anti-tank mines? Repair tools? Where are my counter measures? Where's my variable weapon loadout on the vehicles themselves? None of it is there.

The only thing this game does well is give you something pretty to look at and nice to listen to, and on these accounts it's a stellar game. It looks gorgeous and sounds just like the movies. If that's all you're looking for, that's great. But a better game than Battlefield? That is really stretching it.

I was saying BF4 is better for reasons mentioned above by you

Yup, lots of flash and pazzaz in presentation but little actual depth in gameplay. Given the lack of content right now, unless you really just want to jump in and gun+play the same thing over and over I'd wait till it comes down in price and the newer stuff gets added in a GoTY version or something similar that might make it worth playing compared to all the other stuff coming out.

DICE doesn't do "Game of the Year" editions. They keep Premium live for the lifetime of a game, meaning that anyone who buys the game next year and gets Premium will get the same rewards/perks as someone who buys Premium now.

The person buying it a year on just gets those rewards immediately rather than spaced out.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 creeping-deth87 wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
And all we get is a Battlefield clone with the depth of your average Call of Duty. What a letdown.

You clearly haven't played Battlefield

It's a lot better. More maps, more guns, better gameplay. Can't take anyone saying "it's a Battlefield clone" seriously, because it's far from that.

I'm sorry, I can't let this one slide. I'll give you the point on more maps, as technically speaking this is correct even though each game mode of Battlefront only goes through 3 or 4 maps whereas Battlefield allows every map to be played on every game mode, but even then... Battlefront's map design is pretty bad, and is sorely lacking by comparison to Battlefield 4's maps. Battlefront maps are incredibly linear and don't offer nearly the same opportunities for flanking and maneuver as Battlefield's maps do.

More guns? Are you serious? Have you ever even played Battlefield 4? There are 11 main guns to choose from in Battlefront. That's about as many as you'd find in a single class of weapon in Battlefield. Furthermore, guns in Battlefield have a lot more to set them apart from each other than in Battlefront, and that's before you even get into the complexity of weapon attachments. In Battlefront weapons only differ in 2 ways: rate of fire and damage. That's it.

Better gameplay? I know that this is entirely subjective, but as far as shooters go Battlefront is so incredibly shallow. There are no classes, and while you can kit yourself out to do different things you don't have nearly the same variety of gadgets or gameplay as you do in Battlefield 4. The vehicular combat is incredibly archaic. I mean seriously, when was the last time you played a game where all vehicles were powerups littered across the map? At least in Call of Duty you have to get kill streaks first. Where are my anti-tank mines? Repair tools? Where are my counter measures? Where's my variable weapon loadout on the vehicles themselves? None of it is there.

The only thing this game does well is give you something pretty to look at and nice to listen to, and on these accounts it's a stellar game. It looks gorgeous and sounds just like the movies. If that's all you're looking for, that's great. But a better game than Battlefield? That is really stretching it.

I was saying BF4 is better for reasons mentioned above by you

Oh. Well... carry on then! Whoops lol

Well, in hindsight, I can see how my post could be interpreted like that, my apologies!

You guys can hate on it all you want, I'm loving my X-Wing v. TIE fights!!

 timetowaste85 wrote:
You guys can hate on it all you want, I'm loving my X-Wing v. TIE fights!!

For me it's Hoth. I'm gonna spend so many hours on that damned place...

It's a shame that the game isn't cross-platform, though

Anyone who wants to play can send me a friend request on Xbox live. Timetowaste85, same as here. Just lemme know you're from Dakka.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
You guys can hate on it all you want, I'm loving my X-Wing v. TIE fights!!

I'm pretty sure that when I can finally play the game at Christmas, Fighter Squadron will be me go-to mode for some time. It just looks so brilliant!

Any guesses for the upcoming maps/heroes? I'd like to see a redux of the excellent Bespin maps from BF1 (can you imagine Fighter Squadron around the platforms? Awesomeness!), perhaps a Death Star map (interior for ground modes, exterior for Fighter Squadron), wouldn't mind seeing Kashyyyk at some point.

As for heroes, my guesses are: Chewie, Ben Kenobi (or Yoda, but BK would be cooler and more fitting), but I'm struggling to think of who the baddies would get, unless they want to be total legends and give up Kylo Ren and Captain Phasma at some point...

 Sigvatr wrote:
And all we get is a Battlefield clone with the depth of your average Call of Duty. What a letdown.

Ironically, despite how much concern I initially had over this being a Battlefield re-skin... I actually wish it had just been a BF re-skin now. Or rather, I would prefer a BF re-skin to what we currently have.

 Paradigm wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
You guys can hate on it all you want, I'm loving my X-Wing v. TIE fights!!

I'm pretty sure that when I can finally play the game at Christmas, Fighter Squadron will be me go-to mode for some time. It just looks so brilliant!

Any guesses for the upcoming maps/heroes? I'd like to see a redux of the excellent Bespin maps from BF1 (can you imagine Fighter Squadron around the platforms? Awesomeness!), perhaps a Death Star map (interior for ground modes, exterior for Fighter Squadron), wouldn't mind seeing Kashyyyk at some point.

As for heroes, my guesses are: Chewie, Ben Kenobi (or Yoda, but BK would be cooler and more fitting), but I'm struggling to think of who the baddies would get, unless they want to be total legends and give up Kylo Ren and Captain Phasma at some point...

December 8th(1st for anyone who preordered) sees the "Battle for Jakku" maps release for free to everyone.

Everything else? No clue. I haven't seen any lists.

First thing they need to fix is that invincibility bug. Really obnoxious to have one guy storm an uplink post and just kill everyone there with nothing you can do about it.

 streamdragon wrote:
First thing they need to fix is that invincibility bug. Really obnoxious to have one guy storm an uplink post and just kill everyone there with nothing you can do about it.

Is it happening on all platforms? I can only play on my pc tonight Q_Q

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:

 streamdragon wrote:
First thing they need to fix is that invincibility bug. Really obnoxious to have one guy storm an uplink post and just kill everyone there with nothing you can do about it.

Is it happening on all platforms? I can only play on my pc tonight Q_Q

I play on PC and it's definitely happening there. Had a guy go 43-11 running straight down the center of the Sorosubb map taking hits from AT-ATs, AT-STs, Turrets and everything and just didn't die. Ever. He destroyed an AT-ST basically on his own with his rifle.

 streamdragon wrote:

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:

 streamdragon wrote:
First thing they need to fix is that invincibility bug. Really obnoxious to have one guy storm an uplink post and just kill everyone there with nothing you can do about it.

Is it happening on all platforms? I can only play on my pc tonight Q_Q

I play on PC and it's definitely happening there. Had a guy go 43-11 running straight down the center of the Sorosubb map taking hits from AT-ATs, AT-STs, Turrets and everything and just didn't die. Ever. He destroyed an AT-ST basically on his own with his rifle.

Good grief. Welp this will definitely be interesting.

FWIW, it requires a specific bit of luck and it doesn't happen every game.

It's just super obnoxious when it does, because it basically ruins a game entirely.