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Thanks bud

Looks fabulous bud.

Up to man himself, but I have no objections to it joining the line up. What's a couple hours amongst friends/riveters.

Haha, thanks. Actually sponsoring it to the local shop to add to scenary stash

Sorry for late response! I had intended to sit down and make a good go of this and all this weekend but you know how life is =/ I spent all day yesterday at the ER with my youngest son. He's ok, but it was a damn near miss. He had to have someone do the heimlich on him or he'd not have made it likely. Just one of those freak things. Scary though! We're all very grateful to the man who was able to save him, an ex-marine (also interesting since that's what my youngest aspires to be). Now he knows they're RL heroes from firsthand.

Anyway, yes Kingpin go for it we have a dearth of entries - well ok like 4 I think now and I'm fine with letting your's in I shall endeavor to get my stuff together here and render a decision by Monday, March 7th (my time).

Again sorry for the delay! Keep riveting my friends ^_^

Thanks g, sorry to hear about your son, seems like life is really testing us this year, had to rush wife to hospital for a ruptured peptic ulcer, she recovering from op.

@Guildenstern - no worries, RL matters more. Scary stuff! Bloody kids eh?

Wow - yeah... put's it all in perspective right... And here's me thinking the DNS.Unlocker virus that's been afflicting my laptop was bad news !!

Stuff happening to your kids sucks. Glad to hear it worked out. Take your time, by all means.

All the best for the wee one. Hope he recovers quickly.

We can be patient, honest we can!!

Ok guys! finally had a chance to sit down and go through my notes. (I know I'm mean if you really want the TL;DR version scroll down!)

First off I'd like to really thank everyone for their work, even those who didn't complete their project. You all had a ton of really good ideas, some I was very sad to see some not get finished, but I hope that you do indeed finish them up later. It's totally worth it

Second, obviously, this is all my own opinion! you can't blame anyone else So, you can direct all your h8 mail to guildysucksasajudgeandprollywontreadthis@not-a-real-e-mail.com

So, that being said, when I tried to come up with criterion to help me judge, I made up a point system, all things being 10 points possible, excepting the theme since that was really one of the most important. Some of the items are kind of no-brainers, like did you finish? did you provide the WiP shot/list I requested? Improvement was based on how well any previous work you'd done stacked up to this piece. Paint job is based on the same scale I use in my head when I look at all the Dakka images - could I have painted it? it's a 6. Is it better than anything I can do by far? it's prolly about an 8. etc. Would it win a golden daemon? 10. Hopefully this will clarify any problems anyone would have with how I went about this.

my point system:

use of recycled items (followed theme) - 20 points

WiP shot of materials (or list) - 10 points

finished piece - 10 points

how much improvement made - 10 points

creativity - 10 points

realism (including scale, weathering etc) - 10 points

paint job (technical skill) - 10 points

rivets! (any tiny detail) - 10 points

If you'd like to know your scores, I will be happy to post them with my comments. I wanted to check first, as not everyone may enjoy public criticism! I'll happily PM them if you'd rather. It was a terribly close race tbh and was really really hard to judge!

Also, it's my understanding there is usually a public poll done after this so there is a 'people's choice' award. If that's true, I will be happy to set up one tomorrow, I wanted to wait just because I haven't done this before and don't want to step on anyone's toes

OK ok enough already as our winner for the 17th LoER Terrain Contest, I give you (*drumroll*)



Also! my choice for "most improved" is...



And a nod out there to TheEyeOfNight for the best idea I've seen in a competition yet: the nyquil touchscreen display!

Congratulations to everyone, especially our winner! I had a ton of fun watching you all create your pieces and hope you did too!

Congratulations to the winner. Fantastic piece. Well done.

Thanks for a great comp. and yes i would love a critique. Public is fine. That way we all learn.

NEXT!?

Wow! Well, I'm chuffed congrats to all on a good fight and thanks to Guildenstern for running such an inspiring contest. I would certainly like to see scores and breakdown. Round 18 to follow soon!

Could kinda tell it was weighted to win sitting on the front page of the gallery for a couple three weeks Excellent work folks

Congrats to Graven it's an awesome little piece of scenery. Now, what have you got for us next round huh, huh?

Oh wow, thanks for that! Will try to improve even more with next comp, especially tim constraint. Well done to all that finished too

Congratulations to Graven for the win.

Congratulations to the other finalists for finishing a piece of terrain; that is, after all, the aim of these contests and the prize for taking part.

and well done to Guildenstern for running and judging this round.

congratz graven...well deserved!

also... respect to all of you who have finished...i wasn´t able to put even two bitz together in the time from last comp to today... so...hopefully this may change for the next round...(where was that finger crossed orkmoticon when we need it?...)

And contest 18 is... Here!
Well, here:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/683041.page

Indeed, Congrat Graven. And a thank you to Guildenstern for hosting.

Lots of nice entries this time. Very good work, one and all.

Nice work Graven and thanks to Guildenstern as well...

Disappointed I couldn't meet the deadline, but maybe I'll do better in the next round !

Hey guys sorry again, been a long week o.O Youngest boy had his surgery last night, it went fine, he's up and playing Destiny now so he's feeling a lot better! Crazy thing, the water bottle top was still in his esophagus O.o was pretty easy to get it out, he just had to be put under so they could extract it. No cutting involved thankfully! but we now have the worlds most expensive bottle cap ever lol

Anyway! to get to the point here's the points spread and my comments (which I'll try to edit into more readable form) if anyone has any questions about a particular score, let me know and I'll try to reconstruct my thought process about it; also I know someone mentioned graven's piece being on the front page for a long time. I actually got the link shortly after starting this contest iirc, but honestly I never saw it or noticed it on the front page. I actually tried to ignore the front images a lot, more because I was trying to get some of my own work done but I can assure you that didn't actually influence my decision. Also, as you'll see below, it was an incredibly close call on the winner.

GrimDork (house):
70 of 100 pts
- use of recycled items (followed theme) - 10
- WiP shot of materials/list - 10
- finished piece - 10
- how much improvement made? - 8
- creativity - 8
- realism (including scale, weathering etc) - 8
- paint job (technical skill) - 6
- rivets! (any tiny details) - 10
- comments: I feel like the house needs more weathering. The chimney was particularly well done with the different coloured bricks, the roof was also well done. Painting - I felt like you just didn't add enough maybe to give your skill a chance to shine; it seemed pretty basic and could have used more examples of above plain or average paint job. Some things I loved about it: the blood smear by the door made me seriously lol, that was great! the books, the foods stuffs, rifle in the corner - all great little touches. My only direct complaint about the furnishings was the chairs seemed too small for the scale, more like toddler chairs, but possibly that is the picture as well. Really enjoyed your "in action" series of shots as well. Some things I could see that would improve your house: more character in the house itself, window ledges or shutters outside, gutters, a pile of firewood by the door etc. Since it's meant to be delapidated (sp) or abandoned I would have loved to see more overall weathering, ivy growing or some such, water stains.
Still overall a really great piece of terrain!

KINGPIN54 (Altar):
74 of 100 pts
- use of recycled items (followed theme) - 15
- WiP shot of materials/list - 10
- finished piece - 10
- how much improvement made? 10
- creativity - 9
- realism (including scale, weathering etc) - 8
- paint job (technical skill) - 6
- rivets! (any tiny details) - 6
comments: I think better pictures may have helped me see better, but just going on what I could see, it seemed like your paint job was fairly standard. I loved the blood but overall thought it could use more rust/weathering. I was amazed honestly with what you did with the grinder thingy. I did think it could use more 'rivets' or more details but you definitely built a solid piece of terrain which I'm sure will see lots of ingame use!

Camkierhi (Substation):
83 of 100 pts
- use of recycled items (followed theme) - 18
- WiP shot of materials/list - 10
- finished piece - 10
- how much improvement made? - 7
- creativity - 10
- realism (including scale, weathering etc) - 10
- paint job (technical skill) - 8
- rivets! (any tiny details) -10
Comments: Parts I loved: the cables, monitors, coloured buttons, "on" lever, the box was a great touch, so were the posters and of course the actual rivets. The interior is amazing! my favorite part is the electrical danger sign lol The corrosion effect you achieved was just excellent. Re: the painting, overall I felt it was great but the electricity between the towers just didn't do it for me. The physical form you built was perfect! but for whatever reason I just felt the OSL didn't work =/ But again another awesome piece of terrain and horribly hard to judge!

inmygravenimage (bat vat):
84 of 100
- use of recycled items (followed theme) - 18
- WiP shot of materials/list - 10
- finished piece - 10
- how much improvement made? - 8
- creativity - 10
- realism (including scale, weathering etc) - 10
- paint job (technical skill) - 9
- rivets! (any tiny details) - 9
comments: I loved all the different materials you used, the lights, meshing, posters, esp the newspaper! tank leaking etc. I thought it was very clever how you put the tank together and how well it came out from those disparate materials to actually look like a vat of acid was just amazing. Ok and now here's my only quibble, and I worked long and hard at thinking about this. The only thing I don't really like about your vat project is the flanges on the tank itself seem out of place. I would have cut them off. :p

So, anyway, hopefully no one is offended! This is all my own opinion of course and while I try to be objective as possible in the end it's still a subjective process. Grats to all again!

Thanks for feedback - talk about close! Glad small fry is on the mend.

Thank you for the great feedback, and completely agree. I think I overdid the OSL on the electrical.

Great efforts from everyone, even those who did not quite finish. Always something gained from these competitions, ideas and inspiration, as well as pushing myself a little harder.

Can't count how many times I have come second now, must be a record there somewhere, but I am always happy with the result, Gravens piece is brilliant and I would be happy to come second to any of the entries.

And really glad the lad is on the mend. Great news.

Hope to see you all in the next round.

Thanks for the feedback, dont even think i got 75% for anything in a very long time.

Congrats, graven! And thanks for the shoutout, Guild. I'll hang onto the NyQuil screen and use it for something sooner or later.

Sorry for dropping out and all, hopefully life will clear up and I'll be able to get in on another competition soon. Good job all around!