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I think you're right Compel. From what I know of Knight Models, they don't seem to have any marketing-background guy, for better or worse. They formed as a pair of sculptor that wanted to do their own favorite models. Even saved for years so they could afford to buy a couple IP's--Star Wars and Lord of the Rings.

But, again from my limited knowledge, never really brought in much of a business side to the business. Quality control, costumer communication, and international distribution are some of their key issues, but have not been too significant to date because of the limited size of their customer base. Might have to change soon.
   
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[DCM]
Legendary Master of the Chapter





UK

AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!

Pre-orders are up on KM, here's the new minis:

Black Panther:


Deadpool (the original mini, though he is dual Avengers/X-men)


Nova (not dual-faction sadly)


The stat cards are all up for free on the product pages, though they don't mean much until we have the rules so I won't post them here.



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Really like Nova, kind of disappointed by Panther, though. There just seems to be no detail to him whatsoever.

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Nova isn't bad. Panther....looks like he's supposed to but looks even more boring than painting batman.

Deadpool looks good, but we ready knew that one.

 
   
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Legendary Master of the Chapter





UK

I just wish Panther had some kind of detailing on the suit. Subtle seams, armour plates, whatever.

This is concept art for the upcoming film version, there's a very clear pattern and texture to the suit:
Spoiler:




whereas the KM one just looks like they added boots, a face mask and a necklace onto a basic body that you'd use to sculpt over... Could be the paintjob, but if the model was decent he'd be an instant buy, as it is, I'll likely just get Nova and house-rule him into the Avengers, or pick up some of the older minis with the money I save and do up house rules for them instead.

   
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Eden

Painting an all-black bodysuit does not sound fun, but that model is definitely a bit of a miss. The musculature better be spot-on. Even the pose is uninspired.

Link to the Knight Models Marvel page for character cards:
http://knightmodels-store.com/epages/afaa2a23-c31d-4ae6-b1cd-12757513fd3b.sf/es_ES/?ObjectPath=/Shops/afaa2a23-c31d-4ae6-b1cd-12757513fd3b/Categories/%22MARVEL%20UNIVERSE%20MINIATURE%20GAME%22

The current deal from Knight Models is a reduced price for pre-orders. All the starters are always going to come with rulebooks.
   
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UK

I hate the Deadpool character but the model is nicely done and posed........probably would work really well as a Hand Ninja or similar......

Black Panther somehow looks unreal - like a animated shop store dummy?

Nova is ok I guess..............

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Time for operation "talk my mate into getting the Avengers because they can also have Deadpool, while I go for the X-men..."
   
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Scotland

As a movie knowledge only fan I'm a bit disappointed with Nova instead of Groot.
   
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Calgary Canada

 durecellrabbit wrote:
As a movie knowledge only fan I'm a bit disappointed with Nova instead of Groot.


I have no doubt Groot is coming as well as the Hulk which we know is already made. I just thought it strange that Colossus was included in the first wave. I am getting the impression a couple of the larger miniatures will be available later and it would have made sense to include Colossus this way as well.
   
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Calgary, Alberta, Canada

There's just not a lot going on there. Deadpool is definitely the best of those three, and he's been available for a while afaik.
Nova and Black Panther just look like characters from a generic super hero TTG or board game.
If they don't want to be adding detail to the costumes then they need to be doing something interesting with the poses, involving some sculpted effects.
These are super heroes, they should be pretty spectacular. These poses should be left for AIM and HYDRA grunts.
   
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Anyone know ifthis scale works? Marvel says its 35mm . Anyone tried to compaire to heroclix?\

I plan to buy Guardians of the galaxy starter but if I could away wih heroclix as the marvel one for super cheap
   
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Legendary Master of the Chapter





UK

People have been using Heroclix for BMG proxies for a fair while now, so it's reasonably close. To be fair, though, KM's scale is a bit all over the place, so you're probably going to find as much difference between their own stuff as KM minis and Heroclix. I wouldn't worry, though, it all falls into the 'close enough' category really.


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Oh, by the way, cheapest pre-orders I've found in the UK thus far are at The Outpost:
http://the-outpost.co.uk/our-products/miniatures/Knight-Models/batman-miniature-game/marvel

£27.50 for a starter.

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Illinois

Clix tend to run a little bigger than typical 28mm, so its probably just right. Depending on the artist, a lot of supers very pretty widely in size anyway, so should be pretty effective. Definitely a good option if you wanna play marvel superheroes more than you want to paint them.

 
   
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Really looking foward to this I resisted the batman game for so long but I don't think I will be able to resist this one. I am quite suprised that the models in the spiderman range haven't been added to the marvel game list yet.
   
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Legendary Master of the Chapter





UK

I imagine they will be in one form or another pretty soon, currently all the Spiderman stuff is only available from KM at the moment, which is not going down well at all, like a lot of the SMG release. There's lots of talk of it being half-baked and now completely ignored at the expense of MUMG, and while I do think one month without releases is a little too soon to be saying a game has been abandoned, I did say at the time that there were signs the release half-hearted, seems like more people are coming around to that way of thinking now. Communication from KM has been patchy at best; something as simple as 'more SMG is coming, just not right now' would set a lot of people's minds at rest, I think, as would reversing the baffling decision to keep it all from retailers.

Which to get back to the original question, does give them scope to release Spidey and Goblin and Venom et al as MUMG models without cannibalising their own sales, perhaps that was the reasoning behind the decision to keep SMG exclusive...

   
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It does seem like a strange decision to have Spiderman-related stuff cordoned off into a separate game. You can't even argue that it's a power level issue, if they're putting characters like Black Widow into the Marvel game.
   
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UK

 TheWaspinator wrote:
It does seem like a strange decision to have Spiderman-related stuff cordoned off into a separate game. You can't even argue that it's a power level issue, if they're putting characters like Black Widow into the Marvel game.


I think it's a one-way power issue. Any heroes in SMG can go up (which is why I'm disappointed they haven't released stat cards for Daredevil, Spidey or Punisher to add to an Avengers team) but most MUMG characters can't really go down to SMG, Thor and Drax and Nova would simply be too powerful, anyone above about Level 8 and/or with some kind of energy-based ranged attack+flying wouldn't really work, I don't think.

As for splitting it off, it seems to me like they came up with the idea of a Marvel version of Batman, then pretty much ported it over in just about the laziest way they could; some existing minis, a handful of mostly poor new ones, some very poor rules writing/translating and it's still missing things like Equipment Lists for the gangs and such. I wonder if the MUMG game was rushed out as some kind of 'damage limitation' scheme, as they seem to be handling it very differently (lots of previews, acting on feedback such as the card colours, releasing it to retailers, even a pre-order discount if you do go direct). Has to be said, over on the BMG forums it's not having that effect at all, though, many people are taking it to mean that SMG has basically been written off and will never be completed now KM have the 'new shiny' to work on and sell. Not sure I agree with this, it's only been a month after all, but the sentiment is there. A lot of people seem to be moving away from KM after last year's (probably Arkham Knight fuelled) boost to BMG, because of the handling of the SMG release, the ongoing QC issues, the price rise last year and the vanishing of pretty much all KM presence from the forum itself...A shame, really, as BMG is still one of the best games out there.

   
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 drazz wrote:
Painting an all-black bodysuit does not sound fun, but that model is definitely a bit of a miss. The musculature better be spot-on. Even the pose is uninspired.

Link to the Knight Models Marvel page for character cards:
http://knightmodels-store.com/epages/afaa2a23-c31d-4ae6-b1cd-12757513fd3b.sf/es_ES/?ObjectPath=/Shops/afaa2a23-c31d-4ae6-b1cd-12757513fd3b/Categories/%22MARVEL%20UNIVERSE%20MINIATURE%20GAME%22

The current deal from Knight Models is a reduced price for pre-orders. All the starters are always going to come with rulebooks.




Maybe I'm failing but I don't see the character cards. Clicked all around in the starters and don't see where cards are to view
   
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Click on 'Product Data Sheet just above the price. That takes you to an image of the cards.

As far as Black Panther goes, I think I have a plan... Take the Catman mini that was released last month, trim down the claws, GS over the exposed jaw and paint it black. Should look the part , and is a much more dynamic and interesting model.

   
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As for splitting it off, it seems to me like they came up with the idea of a Marvel version of Batman, then pretty much ported it over in just about the laziest way they could; some existing minis, a handful of mostly poor new ones, some very poor rules writing/translating and it's still missing things like Equipment Lists for the gangs and such. I wonder if the MUMG game was rushed out as some kind of 'damage limitation' scheme, as they seem to be handling it very differently (lots of previews, acting on feedback such as the card colours, releasing it to retailers, even a pre-order discount if you do go direct). Has to be said, over on the BMG forums it's not having that effect at all, though, many people are taking it to mean that SMG has basically been written off and will never be completed now KM have the 'new shiny' to work on and sell. Not sure I agree with this, it's only been a month after all, but the sentiment is there. A lot of people seem to be moving away from KM after last year's (probably Arkham Knight fuelled) boost to BMG, because of the handling of the SMG release, the ongoing QC issues, the price rise last year and the vanishing of pretty much all KM presence from the forum itself...A shame, really, as BMG is still one of the best games out there.


I think they will continue with the SMG game, while I agree they should have moved forward with it before starting the MUMG I don't think it means the MUMG is rushed or going to be a flop. I like the revisions they did with the cards but I noticed the old cards mirrored some of the design concepts used for other current Marvel products such as dice masters and were not strictly a KM design flop IMO. I also think it's way too early to say the rules are half baked. I was surprised that the rulebook was 36 pages in reading the release info. Not that a large number of rules is a good thing but 36 pages means lots of content we haven't seen yet. For a small company that has created a miniature game that has done fairly well they do not seem to get much credit/support lately IMO. I'm very excited to dig into this game and ordering was easy direct and my savings with the pre order discount balanced off my shipping charges so now it's just a matter of waiting until it arrives.
   
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To clarify, I am not one of the ones that thinks MUMG is in any way a bad thing, I've been waiting for this game pretty much since I first saw Iron Man in 2008, and everything we've seen so far (apart from a couple of bad or uninspiring minis, only Panther and Starlord really) looks fantastic; I can't wait to see the full rules and get playing, and I really am looking forward to seeing where the game goes!

A lot of the Spiderman rules did seem pretty poorly thought out to me, as if there was something we weren't being told (for instance, the fact SMG games are set for 500 Rep, something that only appeared on Hendybadger's blog and was not mentioned at all in the official rules add-on) or something missing. I am reasonably confident that as and when KM get back to SMG, it will become a lot more clear and the issues that are there will be resolved; the Direct Only sales approach is going to hinder the SMG, there's no two ways about that (when it's BMG/MUMG that you can pick up locally and often at a discount, or SMG full-price plus shipping plus possible customs fees/delays direct from KM, you need to be a massive Spidey-fan to pick the latter! )

I am still wholly on board with KM. BMG remains one of the best games I've played, and I can't wait to get going with MUMG, but they have made a few missteps recently and from what I see on the forums in particular, it is hurting them as players are put off.

   
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Honestly I feel said my peace on the FB forums but I still think the release schedule is pretty messy and shiny syndrome-esque.

With BMG we still need to see three gangs: Freeze and Organised Crime and Lexcorp. We need to see More gangs needing support, such as Ivy needing a lot more plants, Black Mask needs a few more Henchmen and Court need a few more characters, CW Arrow needs the rest of his gang, etc. Instead we get more Joker and Bats releases, heck we have started getting more and more Meta-humans which whilst I like the idea of Joker, penguin and Dent sitting around a table like in the episode "Almost Got 'Em" talking about their encounters and such, I feel like I'm constantly questioning KM release schedule as more of a shiny syndrome atmosphere rather than something that looks more.. Well.. Organised.

Why do we need more Meta-humans like Hawkgirl and Cyborg when there other more Gotham orientated metas such as Manbat and such that would feel a lot more at home. In addition why did the Bat need more stuff when his current focus was the Bat-Family. Sons of Gotham from Frank Millers works would have a felt a lot more at home than the likes of Cyborg and Hawkgirl imo.

To top it off there is meant to be an expansion in the works but there has not been anything announced yet and rules are starting to clutter as more new generic rules are introduced only on specific cards such as the 'Supernatural' trait and the 'Magic' trait.

I'm not saying KM doesn't have a release schedule but I am getting slightly irritated that we hare having new games batted towards us when the one that they have thats atm, the most supported just needed a little bit of polishing off before just adding a load on in the form of new games.

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Hawkgirl to build on 'Legends of Tomorrow' hype isn't the worst idea in the world.

But then, one would think that releasing Arrow characters would help more...

It wouldn't surprise me if a strong element of it is, the people sculpting whatever they want to sculpt at that moment.
   
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Some details about the game.

http://www.magabotato.de/blog/item/breaking-reviews-marvel-universe-miniature-game-english



 
   
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It's sounding very promising and I'm already good to go with my own character. Now I just need the right mini. Hm, I wonder how much Prods charge..

   
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Batman MIniature Game expansion announced today. Looks like the CW is coming to town!

(Sorry, no insider info yet. Will check sources today.)



   
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Oh YES! A) expansions in general are most welcome, b) even though Arrow is really going off the rails a bit at the moment (in my opinion), there's still a ton of great material and characters in the show to use! Bring it on, and KM, don't screw this one up!

   
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Scotland

I like both those shows especially Arrow. I just hope they can do it right and focus on getting the major characters done.
   
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This makes me much happier than marvel. Rumours from the inside are also vehicle rules, New objective rules (finally we can put batsignal on the roof), New equipment charts and new team lists

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On an unrelated note, has there been anything official about MUMG being pushed back again? Last I looked, most places were saying 11th March, now most are listing the 17th as the shipping date.

   
 
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