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Game components and miniatures look incredible...my only apprehension is that I already own all of the Zombicide games...and if this plays like Zombicide, I've got that itch scratched a hundred-fold.

My initial thoughts with the cthulhu theme, the asymmetrically sized board tiles, and the 'investigator' hints were that it reminded me of Mansions of Madness..which I also already have. I really love the sci-fi twist and the underwater base theme...but other than the pretty models, which I'm drowning in already...I really need it to give me a really fresh and unique gaming experience to make it worth the time/cost investment (because Id have to paint it of course!)

 Fango wrote:
Game components and miniatures look incredible...my only apprehension is that I already own all of the Zombicide games...and if this plays like Zombicide, I've got that itch scratched a hundred-fold.

My initial thoughts with the cthulhu theme, the asymmetrically sized board tiles, and the 'investigator' hints were that it reminded me of Mansions of Madness..which I also already have. I really love the sci-fi twist and the underwater base theme...but other than the pretty models, which I'm drowning in already...I really need it to give me a really fresh and unique gaming experience to make it worth the time/cost investment (because Id have to paint it of course!)

While the core player mechanics remind me of Zombicide with the low # of player actions, using 1 per move, search, attack, and how weapons work, the game goes it's own way with how monsters spawn and interact. It is vastly different at that point and the tile corruption concept is very cool.

And more stuff!

Unlocked:


Unlocked:





Still to go:

These things:


Totally not Newt:


Scenario:


New sculpt:


More things to make the game even harder:


And this thing at 1mil.


And we also have a couple of discount bundles. The expansions are currently US$50 each, but they have offered this:



... for a US$10 saving.

Alternatively you can pay the full $100, but also get:


Penitent:


Forsaken:


Or if you just want those two but not the expansions, they can be bought as a pack:


Finally, updated picture:



[EDIT]: And another new stretch goal.

What a strange pose for a scared little girl.

Who says she's scared?

I think the description suggests she is actually a powerful psychic which is neat

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Who says she's scared?

I wonder if they were trying to evoke a little bit of 11 from Stranger things with the pose.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Who says she's scared?

Okay, let me rephrase.

How strange for the little girl to not be scared.

Does she have psy powers or something?

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Who says she's scared?

Okay, let me rephrase.

How strange for the little girl to not be scared.

Does she have psy powers or something?

Of course she is not scared. She has her teddy with her.

I wonder if in the game, we can give her that sniper rifle that just unlocked... That'd be hilarious.

In Dead of Winter, you can arm Sparky the Dog with a shotgun, so there's precedence.

In our last game Sparky managed to unlock a garage and discovered a snowmobile which he proceeded to drive around town.

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1216249/sparky-stunt-dog

So did Diemension Games ever tell us if they have any experience in managing a project? I know they said they had no game publishing experience.

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1654250/who-diemension-games

Time for some unlocks!

Alternate Sculpt:


Creepy psychic girl:


Special scenario made specifically for Unbound:




And Gordon Freeman a bearded physicist with a crowbar is a new goal:


Edging towards 1m, with 4 days to go.

A bit disappointed he does not wear the traditional glasses, too obvious, maybe, but still.

Suspicious lack of robot legs.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Suspicious lack of robot legs.

There's been a few of the latest characters without those legs for some reason.

I'm super sad I had to drop out of this, but we have debts to pay and a business venture next year, so needs must...

And first Kickstarter I have ever pledged to.

I just could not resist the Sci-Fi Lovecraftian horror full of so many beautifully gruesome monsters.

Also, we just hit $1 Million, so the strange ant dragon is unlocked.

Only about $20k more to go for Gordo... the Physicist.


Automatically Appended Next Post:


Here's the pic.

1 million! Woo!

Sadly I dropped to a dollar too. Hopefully the pledge manager stays open until I can get some cash.

Sorry for the people that had to drop. I hope you can get back in if you want.

Anyway, I'm really excited, so I am going to watch this like a hawk.

The KS is up to $1,061k! So unlocked things:

The Physicist:


Cultist and executive characters for the Rise of Dagon expansion:

Sorry, got a little overzealous for the 1 Million mark.

And, for things yet to be unlocked:

Some new equipment cards:


A new monster set of 8:

Must have been an engineer once upon a time with that nicely executed *headdesk.*

And a new epic monster:


Edit: Whoops, missed this little guy here:

New scenario based on the Obscure epic monster.

And a bundle has been added:

Nice. I wish it included the exclusive characters from the expansions and monsters. I want them, but spending the $300+ to get all of them is not a possibility for me right now.

We have reached $1,088k, so the Hunter cards are now unlocked.

New stretch goals added (not much as far as pictures go, so I'll just describe them to save those of you that do not want a bunch of pics):

$1,210k - new sculpts for the victim and collector monster models in the Oracle's Betrayal expansion and new sculpts for the Deep One monsters in the Rise of Dagon expansion.

$1,240k - new sculpts for the bloated, parasite, and grudge monsters

Are there any examples of rookie companies successfully delivering a +$1mil project like this? I really want to jump in, but the lack of experience/reputation is worrisome.

Clanan wrote:
Are there any examples of rookie companies successfully delivering a +$1mil project like this? I really want to jump in, but the lack of experience/reputation is worrisome.

Petersen Game's Cthulhu Wars delivered. However Sandy Petersen has been in the video game and roleplaying business for decades, and taught a game design seminar. I felt Cthulhu Wars was a higher-than-average risk, and, if it wasn't for the Cthulhu miniatures, I would not have backed it. He and his sons were *very* communicative during the KS, including on BGG, although that's more like something reassuring when making a decision to back the project. (AFAIK, Diemensional Games is primarily Chinese, so I'd only expect an English-speaking person as a liason on their KS, rather than expect to interact with their primary staff.)

I don't know anything about Stonemaier Games before KS. I only backed their projects after they released two boardgames. Anyone have info?

Otherwise, I'm drawing blanks:
* Monolith: Staff had experience publishing boardgames before forming Monolith (eg. Bombyx).
* CMON: Sold miniatures long before KS. (Not sure if they made miniatures.)
* Flying Frog Productions: Published retail games before Shadows of Brimstone.
* Mantic: Published retail miniature wargames before KS.
* Cryptozoic: Published retail boardgames before KS.
* Reaper: Manufactured retail miniatures before KS.
* Greenbrier Games: Manufactured miniatures before KS (?) and made miniatures for other KS projects.
* MegaCon Games: Published a small scale metal miniatures retail game before KS.
* Dwarven Forge: Manufactured retail-level resin game tiles for over a decade before KS.
* Queen Games: Published retail boardgames before KS.
* Soda Pop Miniatures: Published retail boardgames before KS (?). Partnered with CMON before managing their own KS projects.

Others, which I did not back:
* Gamezone: Hasn't delivered. Probably ran out of money.
* Prodos: 3+ years to deliver AvP. Ran out of money.
* Palladium: 3+ years to deliver Robotech. Still has not delivered wave 2. Probably ran out of money.

Based on the example above, none of them are really similar to this company. It's brand new, has no one in the industry that seems to be recognised. The only thing is that we know who it's proposed manufacturing partner is.

The last time I backed a game by rookies from Asia was Journey. And that has been an utter kick in the pants for me. Delivered core game, NFI when any add-ons or so on will deliver. Dude goes silent for months at a time. Utter disappointment. Also had a lot of miniatures to show at the time of the KS but production apparently is not progressing. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1588487845/journey-wrath-of-demons

Did Kingdom Death: Monster have any experience before the first KS? They raised 2.5 million in their first, and from what I can tell, people are relatively happy with it?

They had experience with mini making and running a functional business (and had trialled the pvc material they had originally planned to use although they switched to HIPS post KS), but no experience in game design

So... on a scale of 1 (very little risk) to 10 (so much risk you probably are not getting anything)... this KS is a...?

I'd put this at a 8-9 so I'm not backing it I guess. I'm not really seeing how they'll be able to produce everything for the core pledge at 100 usd.

It's 161 minis at 100usd now? That's amazing since it'll cost even less per mini than a normal Zombicide KS. It's an even better deal than Bones III, which gave you 158 minis for a 100usd pledge but without cardboard box for a game or tiles or card printing etc etc etc etc.

Anyone know of suitable heads including glasses for the not-Freeman?

 Red_Ink_Cat wrote:
So... on a scale of 1 (very little risk) to 10 (so much risk you probably are not getting anything)... this KS is a...?

for me it's about a 2 (ie a pretty low risk of getting nothing but it is there) to 5 (a moderate risk of getting something disappointing assuming you want a great game and great minis)

a bunch of work has been done on making the game (you can download the rough rules)

plenty of the minis have been sculpted both traditionally and digitally (and at least some of the renders have been successfully printed, a major potential problem if you were just using a 3d artist rather than one who knows about making stuff to be physically made at the end of the day)

a bunch of the digital art is done

they've got an established company as a manufacturer

yes it's loads of minis but there are a bunch of duplicates that won't cost a lot to produce (once you have the mould and are running it anyway)

shipping isn't included so they won't have to worry about price rises


but there are issues to be concerned about

it will be late, 6 months would be good, 12 months wouldn't surprise me

the minis won't be HIPS sharp, (i'd expect reaper bones quality, but it could be better, if they're CMON quality i'd be ecstatic)

the game itself could be rubbish (the basic idea seems ok, but depending on your player group and how much you expect it could end up a shelf queen)

shipping could be a lot in a years time, id put aside $60+

there's a chance they may have underestimated the costs or they manufacture suddenly asks for more which could kill things (on the other hand they look to have independent money available as they've got a lot done preKS), or if Trump really rolls back on free trade they could manufacture it and find the needed a lot more cash to import it into the US from China

Double post? Also, 1 is the lowest risk Orlando, so yours would be more like 9 to 5?