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 Kanluwen wrote:
Honestly? I've been thinking for awhile that the removal of the Solar Auxilia from FW's range is because we're going to see something similar to that in concept/design from GW in plastic. The stuff from Rogue Trader seems to be a step in that possible direction.

If that was true, FW would axe their custode range first - because not only it's far uglier than GW plastic ones, GW range replaces it pretty much 100% with better and cheaper models. You can now build nice HH custode army using plastic only - even Valdor can be replaced by gluing a pile of random off scale mismatched plastic animal body parts to GW Tribune, so I don't buy that conspiracy theory. Why axe something that still sells and has no replacement at the moment encouraging people to just dump half finished armies on ebay, when something with direct replacements is still in store?

 Irbis wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Honestly? I've been thinking for awhile that the removal of the Solar Auxilia from FW's range is because we're going to see something similar to that in concept/design from GW in plastic. The stuff from Rogue Trader seems to be a step in that possible direction.

If that was true, FW would axe their custode range first - because not only it's far uglier than GW plastic ones, GW range replaces it pretty much 100% with better and cheaper models. You can now build nice HH custode army using plastic only - even Valdor can be replaced by gluing a pile of random off scale mismatched plastic animal body parts to GW Tribune, so I don't buy that conspiracy theory. Why axe something that still sells and has no replacement at the moment encouraging people to just dump half finished armies on ebay, when something with direct replacements is still in store?

I must have missed the plastic Telemon, Firepikes, and whatnots.

Silly me!

There's an artwork in the Knights codex with some guardsmen that look like some kind of Cadian-Steel Legion hybrids. Maybe we get those as plastics?

As much as I love the rogue trader mini preview, and I plan on using some in my guard army, I would be very disappointed if the soldiers seen in RT were a new AM regiment.

 Dryaktylus wrote:
There's an artwork in the Knights codex with some guardsmen that look like some kind of Cadian-Steel Legion hybrids. Maybe we get those as plastics?

Old art. That style keeps cropping up, Cadians with backpack mounted weapons.

I've been leaning towards it being a kit coming at some point.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Phobosftw wrote:
Sooo.. no one has been able to get so much as a peep from GW on this issue?

We've gotten answers. There was a whole thread in 40k general with the Facebook screencaps of emails.

They're donezo. They could come back at some point as a Made to Order range.

So the only sensible conclusion is that all the regiments will be coming back in plastic then? It wouldn't make much sense to get rid of all the regiments right after they just spent all that time giving them special rules & fleshing them out in the 8th edition codex. I've spent thousands of dollars on my IG collection & intend to spend thousands more. However, if they try to "primaris" the guard & reinforce all of these regiments with some new super duper Guilliman regiment to replenish their ranks that will be the nail in the coffin for me.

Maybe upgrade sprues for Cadians?

It would not be great but you could get somewhat close to most regiments with some new heads torsos or arms...

So, it looks like the city ruin kits are gone too, as well as the firestorm redoubt. Considering we are getting new ruins in kill team, maybe we can look forward to new kits? Also, consider that the steel legion is still available in the least supported way, so I would expect something to help them out.

Dandelion wrote:
So, it looks like the city ruin kits are gone too, as well as the firestorm redoubt. Considering we are getting new ruins in kill team, maybe we can look forward to new kits? Also, consider that the steel legion is still available in the least supported way, so I would expect something to help them out.

The Cities of Death?

Yup, they all got phased out aside from the large Aquila thing.

As for the Cadians, they'd need more than an upgrade sprue to be good again. A complete redesign at the very least, not to mention packing those sprues to the gills with extra guff.



So barren!

I didn't mind their fictional take on Interceptor Body Armor with the Deltoid protectors. It was, and remains cool to me.

What I am tired of, is the lack of knee pads, gloves, and a hydration pack on their backpack, if they even have one! That damn canteen just looks so homeless to me in 2018, and the Imperial Guard helmets have no attachments, you might get some kind of camera thing if you buy a FW upgrade kit, but even that looks really cheap to me.

Kasrkin gone, Elysian gone.. both were steps in the right direction IMO, however GW rule of thumb seems to be keeping the guard locked in history from the invention of gunpowder to 2001.

Edit: If you google; Resistance Fall of Man Black Ops, you'll seen an interesting take on WW2 mixed with sci-fi kind of trooper. I do like the Solar Auxilia though since they have IMO really good action poses, but it's not what I would consider appropriate by 42m, especially since the cadian look is now the general/standard issue look.

 Ginsu33 wrote:
I didn't mind their fictional take on Interceptor Body Armor with the Deltoid protectors. It was, and remains cool to me.

What I am tired of, is the lack of knee pads, gloves, and a hydration pack on their backpack, if they even have one! That damn canteen just looks so homeless to me in 2018, and the Imperial Guard helmets have no attachments, you might get some kind of camera thing if you buy a FW upgrade kit, but even that looks really cheap to me.

Kasrkin gone, Elysian gone.. both were steps in the right direction IMO, however GW rule of thumb seems to be keeping the guard locked in history from the invention of gunpowder to 2001.

If they make IG look all modern and high tech, then there’s no way I’m buying any. I want my 40k to look even more gothic, not less. I never liked the IG regiments because they all looked too modern to me.

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:


If they make IG look all modern and high tech, then there’s no way I’m buying any. I want my 40k to look even more gothic, not less. I never liked the IG regiments because they all looked too modern to me.

Militarum Tempestus.

 Ginsu33 wrote:
What I am tired of, is the lack of knee pads, gloves, and a hydration pack on their backpack.

If only someone made 28mm modern tacticals... *sigh*

(1/72 is widely available, though...)

Commissar Benny wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Phobosftw wrote:
Sooo.. no one has been able to get so much as a peep from GW on this issue?

We've gotten answers. There was a whole thread in 40k general with the Facebook screencaps of emails.

They're donezo. They could come back at some point as a Made to Order range.

So the only sensible conclusion is that all the regiments will be coming back in plastic then? It wouldn't make much sense to get rid of all the regiments right after they just spent all that time giving them special rules & fleshing them out in the 8th edition codex. I've spent thousands of dollars on my IG collection & intend to spend thousands more. However, if they try to "primaris" the guard & reinforce all of these regiments with some new super duper Guilliman regiment to replenish their ranks that will be the nail in the coffin for me.

I wouldn't hold my breath on everything coming back in plastic. The absolute best case scenario would be that every year or so they do a "Warzone", as I remember rumor awhile back of them doing a big Armageddon thing, and then releasing plastic regiments (and foes!) with each Warzone. So one year it would be Armageddon with Steel Legion and Ork kits (or Daemons), then Tallarn vs Chaos Marines, etc. Even that is a faint hope though.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Maybe upgrade sprues for Cadians?

It would not be great but you could get somewhat close to most regiments with some new heads torsos or arms...

They'd be better off making a new generic guardsman kit, and then releasing upgrade sprues for that. As is, Cadians are fairly barren aside from a few grenade bits and canteens.

I suppose if they double up the Cadian Command Squad, with all its extra bits and gribbles, and sold the combined 10 man box at a reasonable price, that could work. Still though, I would assume it is easier to design models with modularity in mind rather than hastily work it 10+ years later.

Though, a best of all worlds scenario - somehow all the regiments get released in plastic, and are all designed with swapping parts between them in mind. Yes, some combos would look really stupid together, but the opportunity to just go kit bash crazy would be amazing.

kurhanik wrote:
Though, a best of all worlds scenario - somehow all the regiments get released in plastic,

Go count just how many metal regiments have been released to date. It's a lot.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Maybe upgrade sprues for Cadians?

It would not be great but you could get somewhat close to most regiments with some new heads torsos or arms...

If there are new Astra Militarum infantry kits coming (which I doubt but then again, see Primaris Marines ), then they could cover Cadians, Mordians, Praetorians and possibly Catachans in one kit - the same legs, torsos and arms will cover Cadians, Mordians and Praetorians if you sculpt the arms and torsos with epaulettes then add shoulder armour plates as separate pieces to go over those, and add three different head/helmet types. Catachans can be covered by adding bare torsos and arms and unhelmeted heads. They might be sufficiently different to be an upgrade sprue or separate box set (like Blood Angels Space Marine squads).

The other three (and Elysians and Death Korps) are sufficiently different from each other as to be difficult to make into a "grouped" kit.

Off the top of my head, the metal include;
* Armageddon
* Attilan
* Cadian
* Catachan
* Mordian
* Praetorian
* Tallarn
* Tanith
* Valhallan
* Vostroyan

That ignores the FW resin.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

kurhanik wrote:
Though, a best of all worlds scenario - somehow all the regiments get released in plastic,

Go count just how many metal regiments have been released to date. It's a lot.

I never said it was remotely likely, just that it would be awesome if it happened.

I am sure they are creating a new Astra Militarum Infantry line of models.

Doesn't take that much to make a Cadian into a fairly passable Tallarn...
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bc3K3B0DMPF/?taken-by=mattminismanchester
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bbxtj9ojUGZ/?taken-by=mattminismanchester

Currently kitbashing the the Reptilian Overlords Desert Reavers torsos with the Scions kit to make a Tallarn-themed Militarum Tempestus as well. Had a few packs of these delivered yesterday: https://www.reptilian-overlords.com/product-page/desert-reaver-torsos-x6

If GW or Forge World could have provided me with these parts, I would have bought from them without even looking elsewhere.

I think we'll be seeing some new plastic Astra Militarum this year. Remember when Sly Marbo had a limited release over Christmas holidays 2017? They said on the Warhammer Community site that he would be more widely available in 2018. So I guess we'll at least get Catachans. Community page for reference.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/26/2017-in-reviewgw-homepage-post-1/

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:
Only true if you have infinite money. But for me I have to pick a few items each order.

Not even close. I play on a budget, probably less than yours. Last 3+ years, I've net zero spend on hobby, actually extracting funds from GW product.

You had over 20 years (Tallarn & Mordian metals were released in 1996). If it wasn't worth your time in the past 20+ years, then it wasn't important.

If it ever becomes important, eBay is over there...

well I do not agree. Over 20 years many people might have taken a pause of some sort. In my case there are some mini I plan to buy "when I have some extra cash" the point is lastly gorgeous release have been frantic. Again, my only issue is GW´s lack of communication. Why they do not put it on "last chance to buy" for one week ?

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Off the top of my head, the metal include;
* Armageddon
* Attilan
* Cadian
* Catachan
* Mordian
* Praetorian
* Tallarn
* Tanith
* Valhallan
* Vostroyan

That ignores the FW resin.

+RT/Archadians/Necromundans

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Off the top of my head, the metal include;
* Armageddon
* Attilan
* Cadian
* Catachan
* Mordian
* Praetorian
* Tallarn
* Tanith
* Valhallan
* Vostroyan

That ignores the FW resin.

The Tanith were always a "niche" faction. The Mordians, Tallarns, Valhallans and Praetorians (and the 2nd edition Cadians and Catachans) all had a Lieutenant, three special weapons, four heavy weapon teams, two sergeants and at least six different lasgun miniatures. The Armageddon and Vostroyan ranges were similarly fleshed out. The Tanich, by contrast had ony five characters, four lasguns and a plasma gun model. The Attilans only had five models (two riders, one sergeant, a standard bearer and a lieutenant), and they disappeared years ago and no one gave a gak.

(Taps playing)

The RT guy posted up there is actually a Necromundian...before they changed the word slightly.

The original art for them had a guy carrying a flag which said "Necromundia" on it.

I can't see that image and don't think the titan is... spouting all of his funny juice over the enemies.

 Elbows wrote:
The RT guy posted up there is actually a Necromundian

No he isn't. He's an Arcadian. The ones in the painting you posted are Necromundan. In 1st edition, Imperial Guard / Imperial Army troops only had one uniform, so those miniatures can be from Necromunda, Arcadia, any other planet that gets name checked in the books, etc. It wasn't until 2nd edition when the the Perrys started cranking out the historically-inspired different regiments.

Catachans - US troops in Vietnam, '60s / '70s
Valhallans - WW2 Soviet Red Army
Cadians - WW2 German army (you can see it in the thigh-length tunic and the webbing, and even the helmet is reminiscent of the German army helmet)
Attilans - Mongols
Tallarns - Arab tribesmen, with a hint of WW2 British SAS / LRDG
Mordians - parade dess. Some say specifically US Marines in dress uniform, but I'm not sufficiently familiar to say.
Praetorians - British Army, 1870s / 1880s

Armageddon - WW2 German Fallschirmjäger
Krieg - WW1 French with German helmets and British machineguns

The Vostroyans are stereotypically "Russian", but don't reflect any actual military uniform that I'm aware of, and the Elysians are their own thing.

I didn't get any fallschirmjäger vibes from Armageddon, i always thought of more like a german greatcoat with gasmask look. (But looking at the fallschirmjäger helmet they are similar i must admit. so probably a mix of influences)

And Vostroyans borrows heavly from Cossacks.

 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:
I didn't get any fallschirmjäger vibes from Armageddon, i always thought of more like a german greatcoat with gasmask look.

The helmets were literally the same design as German fallschirmjager during the opening of WWII. The smocks they wore as well were based off them.