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The Salt Mine wrote:
I hope the DG get access to these new powers +1 invuln save to plagueburst crawlers seems real good.

DG and TS will not get access to these powers, or at least I'd be very surprised if they did.

TS has some clearly sketchy combos that GW probably doesn't want in play, like a 20 man squad of Tzaangors with a 3++ for 140 points.

DG has so many vehicles that would benefit from these powers it would probably turn them into the super-castle army.

Also, given their lack of access to Warpsmiths and most types of Daemonkin (DG only get Possessed), 2 of the powers are rather odd fits for their lists.

 TwinPoleTheory wrote:

The Salt Mine wrote:
I hope the DG get access to these new powers +1 invuln save to plagueburst crawlers seems real good.

DG and TS will not get access to these powers, or at least I'd be very surprised if they did.

TS has some clearly sketchy combos that GW probably doesn't want in play, like a 20 man squad of Tzaangors with a 3++ for 140 points.

DG has so many vehicles that would benefit from these powers it would probably turn them into the super-castle army.

Also, given their lack of access to Warpsmiths and most types of Daemonkin (DG only get Possessed), 2 of the powers are rather odd fits for their lists.

Tzaangors are not daemons, can't benefit from cursed earth.

Many people worry about TS going overboard with this, but basically the only things that can get a 3++ reliably with cursed earth would be Daemon Princes and ahriman on disk (though they would have to stay 6" from a footlogging sorcerer), and then it would be tzaangor enlightened or the daemon engines , but that's with two 7+ cast powers in play at the same time, and the payoff is really not that good.

topaxygouroun i wrote:
Tzaangors are not daemons, can't benefit from cursed earth.

Many people worry about TS going overboard with this, but basically the only things that can get a 3++ reliably with cursed earth would be Daemon Princes and ahriman on disk (though they would have to stay 6" from a footlogging sorcerer), and then it would be tzaangor enlightened or the daemon engines , but that's with two 7+ cast powers in play at the same time, and the payoff is really not that good.

Good point, that'll teach me to not check the codex, I still doubt they'll get the Discipline, being able to combo Weaver of Fates and Cursed Earth is something I'm pretty sure GW doesn't want to allow. Just the ability to go from one DP with a 3++ to 3 with a 3++ on one power is probably not something they'd be thrilled about.

The Salt Mine wrote:
I hope the DG get access to these new powers +1 invuln save to plagueburst crawlers seems real good.

Highly doubt it. Would love to be wrong though, but Daemonkin stuff will be CSM only.