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Why does she have a nose?

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 Nostromodamus wrote:
Why does she have a nose?


She always had one.

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99810113004_CommanderShadowsunNEW02.jpg

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 fraser1191 wrote:
He also just has rules that affect anything with the Imperium keyword
And if he's not part of an Ultramarine force the Marines he's with forget how to use their Doctrines, right?

   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Bdrone wrote:
... I like this model, but... ARGH!

okay, annoyances out of the way first. so it says in the article she has weapon choices. forgive me if im wrong, but this isn't normal to named characters anymore is it? does this mean with weapon options she'll have to tally her points without the options built in? if so, if you were taking her for her commanding abilities instead of equipment, this is probably a jump in points in exchange for weaponry. I wonder how useful the new Shadowsun will be.


Just means base cost will drop assuming GW doesn't decide the alternative weapons are worth same. Special characters didn't get weapons for free before anyway.

I don't think it's actually "weapon choices". It reads like it's a poorly worded way of saying there's fire modes for the Fusion Blasters.

Her newly up-gunned battlesuit now comes equipped as standard with an arsenal of weapons, from a flechette launcher to light missile pod, and the choice of tank-busting high-energy fusion blasters or Space Marine-melting dispersed fusion blasters.


They’re 2 separate weapons. The front of the weapons are the same, but the back end is different for the different types. The box comes with 2 of each back for the guns.

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Right behind you.

Not sure how I feel about that, then. It wouldn't be a big deal if there's a generic variant but hrmh.
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 fraser1191 wrote:
He also just has rules that affect anything with the Imperium keyword
And if he's not part of an Ultramarine force the Marines he's with forget how to use their Doctrines, right?


Because they have to use his superior tactics
   
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I think I like the old model more. The second set of linked arms does not work. Given everything the Tau have, needing a second set of arms that are linked to the exposed primary arms seems like a pretty significant design setback for the Tau Empire. Shadowsun must be piloting the Tau version for the F-35.

After trillions of T'ollars and years of designing. They couldn't make the guns smaller to fit on the old suit but promised a small suit of armor so they couldn't make the suit bigger. So the Earth caste shrugged and slapped a set of redundant bigger arms on the suit to carry the oversized guns on the undersized armor. And just hoped nobody would noticed they built some Imperial frankenstein with Tau money.

 
   
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Looks pretty good to me aside from the double arm deal - wonder if it will look ok if you put the weapons onto one set of arms as the old mini had
   
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That's what happen when you let the big brain designer do the job, simply turning old model into plastic would be too boring, they had to innovate!

Maybe the 2 arm that had no weapon are used to shoot the pistol, because battlesuit need pistol.

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In an anime of mechas, if you want to beff up your mega-suit, you ALWAYS give him an extra set of arms with mega weapons.

You guys should watch more anime.

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 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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I would have rather a bigger suit that shadowsun can jump into than dredging up trash mecha designs.

 
   
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I mean, from back in the day, O'shaserra always had that silouette of gigantic guns in his arms. Is not that different from the original concept art. And maybe is optional or easy to build her without those extra set of arms for the jumpack.

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 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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The original design is miles better. They should have stuck with that.

 
   
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 Galas wrote:
In an anime of mechas, if you want to beff up your mega-suit, you ALWAYS give him an extra set of arms with mega weapons.

You guys should watch more anime.

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Gundam/Mobile suit carry Saber, and Beam rifle, gun,... that they can use in conjunction with their "extra arms"(and even unarmed, their hand is a flexible 5-fingers hand that's useful for many task, not stumpy Tau battlesuit hand),

For a Tau Battlesuit any arm is a hardpoint to mount more weapons, but for Shadowsun the 2 unarmed arms are not sculpted with similar hardpoint slot like the XV8 suit, so it served little purpose other than to use the pistol, which is ridiculously puny weapon for a battlesuit

That comparison is an insult to anime creator, the gundam themselves usually had more gun/missile in their head, chest, arms. I can make sense of Anime's mecha design, for GW's Shadowsun design however, required very high IQ to understand.

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I find her quite weird actually ugly. Her armor is more oval than the usual Tau design. The thighs are enormous and she's quite fat.
The proportion are off and four arms with huge guns doesn't help either.
   
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 Modock wrote:
I find her quite weird actually ugly. Her armor is more oval than the usual Tau design. The thighs are enormous and she's quite fat.
The proportion are off and four arms with huge guns doesn't help either.


Other than the word oval, you've just described the overall tau mech asthetic.

   
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 Galas wrote:
In an anime of mechas, if you want to beff up your mega-suit, you ALWAYS give him an extra set of arms with mega weapons.

You guys should watch more anime.

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Gundam/Mobile suit carry Saber, and Beam rifle, gun,... that they can use in conjunction with their "extra arms"(and even unarmed, their hand is a flexible 5-fingers hand that's useful for many task, not stumpy Tau battlesuit hand),

For a Tau Battlesuit any arm is a hardpoint to mount more weapons, but for Shadowsun the 2 unarmed arms are not sculpted with similar hardpoint slot like the XV8 suit, so it served little purpose other than to use the pistol, which is ridiculously puny weapon for a battlesuit

That comparison is an insult to anime creator, the gundam themselves usually had more gun/missile in their head, chest, arms. I can make sense of Anime's mecha design, for GW's Shadowsun design however, required very high IQ to understand.



We know Tau can wear their battlesuits as if its their body so why they needed linked little/big arms makes zero sense. If shadowsun's armor needed heavier arms to carry heavier guns, they would have just made the arms heavier. She doesn't need to actually have her arms inside the arms. Like every other tau battlesuit.

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 warboss wrote:
 Modock wrote:
I find her quite weird actually ugly. Her armor is more oval than the usual Tau design. The thighs are enormous and she's quite fat.
The proportion are off and four arms with huge guns doesn't help either.


Other than the word oval, you've just described the overall tau mech asthetic.


Actually no.





The difference is huge.

   
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Tau Stealth suits tend to be more rounded than the standard battle suits.

   
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 Modock wrote:
I find her quite weird actually ugly. Her armor is more oval than the usual Tau design. The thighs are enormous and she's quite fat.
The proportion are off and four arms with huge guns doesn't help either.


TBH compared with Infinity's wasp waisted mechas, everything will be fat.

And yes, for Tau :
Boxy suits = Assault/Combat/Artillery suits
Rounded suits = Stealth suits.

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 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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Looks pretty meh to me. Remove the silly extra arms and it's actually a nice model.

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I think she looks better once you remove the second pair of 'gauntlets' and attach the guns directly to the real gauntlets and the remaining support struts.

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 Galas wrote:
 Modock wrote:
I find her quite weird actually ugly. Her armor is more oval than the usual Tau design. The thighs are enormous and she's quite fat.
The proportion are off and four arms with huge guns doesn't help either.


TBH compared with Infinity's wasp waisted mechas, everything will be fat.

And yes, for Tau :
Boxy suits = Assault/Combat/Artillery suits
Rounded suits = Stealth suits.


I didn't want to bring Tags into this but please don't insult Infinity with that abomination of a design.









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I usually rank GW's models above most competitors, but that Infinity suit/mech is a clear example of them having an easily superior take on the same concept. How big is it? Would make a nice crisis or stealth suit...

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 Crimson wrote:
I usually rank GW's models above most competitors, but that Infinity suit/mech is a clear example of them having an easily superior take on the same concept. How big is it? Would make a nice crisis or stealth suit...


About 7-8 cm.
   
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I mean, I love infinity (I literally live in the same city where they have their production facilities and main HQ ) desings and I agree they are much superior to GW take.

Thats also because they remain more faithfull to the original anime aesthetic and don't try to bring anime concepts to "heroic western" proportions.


I believe she would look better with the second pair of arms being bigger. I agree she looks a little strange with two sets of arms that look exactly the same. But nonetheless, I love the miniature.

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 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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I was just commenting on Shadowsun aesthetics because I was excited about Tau finally getting a new model after like 4-5 years now and she disappointed.
Btw I like Tau, I collect them.

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 Galas wrote:
You guys should watch more anime.


No-one on Dakka has done anything to deserve such punishment.

And given some of the posters on here, that's saying something.

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I'm of mixed feelings with the sculpt, but I do like that they're leaning a bit heavier on the ghostkeel aesthetic, which I absolutely adore.

Interchangeable weapons on a unique character is odd to me, but at the very least, I hope she at least can bring enough firepower to ease the pain of losing a Coldstar or Enforcer through her unique Fusion variants.

Also, it's apparently been, what, centuries since she started testing out the XV-22 suit?

Enough of the hoarding, Shadowsun! Give it the go-ahead, and put that baby out into production!
   
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 Unusual Suspect wrote:
I'm of mixed feelings with the sculpt, but I do like that they're leaning a bit heavier on the ghostkeel aesthetic, which I absolutely adore.

Interchangeable weapons on a unique character is odd to me, but at the very least, I hope she at least can bring enough firepower to ease the pain of losing a Coldstar or Enforcer through her unique Fusion variants.

Also, it's apparently been, what, centuries since she started testing out the XV-22 suit?

Enough of the hoarding, Shadowsun! Give it the go-ahead, and put that baby out into production!


Also, explain how you’re not dead?!

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