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" Or equivalent local currency, terms and conditions apply"

150 GBP = 280.38 Australian dollar

Somehow that equals $410 Australian dollars

The terms and conditions are , you bend over a large barrel for a uninspiring, phoned in model.


LGS offers a %10 discount that's $41. Want a bigger discount you can get %20 off. Is this model really worth 41-82$ AUD
It's nothing but a trap for the stupid rolled into a tactic to pull away sales from trade account holders. .


I remember back in 1996 or 1997 I handwrote a letter to Australian GW mail order in Ork Glyphs from the second edition ork codex basically explaining how much I loved the hobby. They sent me back a reply letter in ork glyphs and included in the envelope was 5 plastic goff boyz and 5 plastic gretchin.

...what a downhill slope over the years from souless corporatism of GW. From being valued as a person, to being treated like a naive sucker.

Nice one GW

soviet13 wrote:

Cronch wrote:

Offer something you can reliably expect to be desirable, with a qualified above your average spend, but ideally not well above your average spend, and reap the monetary benefit.

Sure, but also, it's a pretty anti-consumer strategy that has no benefit to the customer at all. As a customer, it would've been much better to just offer it on sale, even direct only, than hide away behind a promotion. We're not supposed to cheer on companies as they take advantage of human psychology for profit.

It's anti-consumer to give something away for free rather than sell it to you? I don't think so.

This isn't anything unique like a special character or unique armament. It's just a basic dude on a cool base. I think people can live without it if necessary.

Yeah I'm as anti-capitalist as the next guy, but they're just offering a promo on a dude a lot of us think is barely differentiated from a normal kit other than a fancy base. There are so many worse business practices out there than incentivizing buying more things. Like, who who's like sold things ever hasn't done that? Like, zines or mom & pop stores or craftsmen or let's go with something as quotidian as a baker's dozen. Not catering to the consumer's spending habits on luxury goods isn't immoral, maybe you could make the argument about means or something if it were essential, but it's not.


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 GoldenHorde wrote:
It's nothing but a trap for the stupid rolled into a tactic to pull away sales from trade account holders.

This is a better criticism, yeah, it's very much so GW can get a better profit by competing with the businesses they supply, which probably will hurt some businesses a bit, and is reasonable complaint about screwing people they work with.

Here in Japan it's weirdly ok. You get it if you spend ¥28500 (£188 right now). That's the same price as Dominion or kill team or probably the new Black Templars box. Also in Japan 3rd party retailers never do discounts for some reason so you don't lose anything by shopping online.
That means that of you buy the new Black Templars box you will just get an extra mini thrown in.

Obviously if you're savy you just get your sister to order it from Element games for you and pay her the postage fee. Even with registered post and import duty it still works out quite a bit cheaper than ordering in Japan.

 phandaal wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Ah so no picture. Knew you were just hot air all talk no ability.

Easy to claim you can kitbash same when you refuse　to put your money where your mouth is.

All talk, no ability.

It's a normal Assault Intercessor sergeant with a plasma pistol. Every part is already present in a single Assault Intercessor kit.

It doesn't even fall into the realm of "kitbash" unless you want to include the Necrons.

Honestly, pretending that someone can't assemble this guy from spare parts is weird.

would you rather it be a model specificly with special kit that you can't get elsewhere?

BrianDavion wrote:
would you rather it be a model specificly with special kit that you can't get elsewhere?

You mean like the limited Primaris Captain w/Power Fist & Plasma Pistol?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
would you rather it be a model specificly with special kit that you can't get elsewhere?

You mean like the limited Primaris Captain w/Power Fist & Plasma Pistol?

Exactly. that was all kinda of irriating Now collectors can get this as a LE collectable and those who just want to play don't need to sweat being locked out of a useful WYSIWYG equipment loadout because we didn't go to a GW store in the South eastren hemipshere on a tuesday when Venus and Jupiter where aligned

 GoldenHorde wrote:


LGS offers a %10 discount that's $41. Want a bigger discount you can get %20 off. Is this model really worth 41-82$ AUD
It's nothing but a trap for the stupid rolled into a tactic to pull away sales from trade account holders. .

Well you are paying literally 0 for the model....

And yes FLGS provide discount. On SOME models.

Do it smart way and you get this paying same as you would pay anyway. No discount is no discount and there's plenty of items FLGS can't provide discount.

Only people who either have math ability worse than kindergarden kid or somehow thinks GW doesnt' send items you bought for and just the model would think this actually costs you something. It doesn't. It's 0$ price. It's bit inconvenient to get but still doesn't matter. You will pay 0 for it in the end.

 phandaal wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Ah so no picture. Knew you were just hot air all talk no ability.

Easy to claim you can kitbash same when you refuse　to put your money where your mouth is.

All talk, no ability.

It's a normal Assault Intercessor sergeant with a plasma pistol. Every part is already present in a single Assault Intercessor kit.

It doesn't even fall into the realm of "kitbash" unless you want to include the Necrons.

Honestly, pretending that someone can't assemble this guy from spare parts is weird.

Someone put together a spot on “kitbash” including the necrons and posted to Reddit the same day they announced the model, unfortunately I didn’t save the image. The only thing it didn’t have was the battle damage but that’s not much additional work.

I like the bare head. Looks like proper grimdark.

Aeneades wrote:

 phandaal wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Ah so no picture. Knew you were just hot air all talk no ability.

Easy to claim you can kitbash same when you refuse　to put your money where your mouth is.

All talk, no ability.

It's a normal Assault Intercessor sergeant with a plasma pistol. Every part is already present in a single Assault Intercessor kit.

It doesn't even fall into the realm of "kitbash" unless you want to include the Necrons.

Honestly, pretending that someone can't assemble this guy from spare parts is weird.

Someone put together a spot on “kitbash” including the necrons and posted to Reddit the same day they announced the model, unfortunately I didn’t save the image. The only thing it didn’t have was the battle damage but that’s not much additional work.

I mean in fairness people proably kitbashed assault intercessors long before the kit existed too *shrugs*

tneva82 wrote:

Only people who either have math ability worse than kindergarden kid or somehow thinks GW doesnt' send items you bought for and just the model would think this actually costs you something. It doesn't. It's 0$ price. It's bit inconvenient to get but still doesn't matter. You will pay 0 for it in the end.

Wrong. Dead wrong.

Even a "kindergarten kid" would understand that you would have to pay $410 AUD minimum for it, not $0.

Don't have $410? You're out of luck.

Also $410 worth of stuff from a discount retailer gets you a whole lot more extra than one crappy gratis trap exclusive mini. This is a "deal" for suckers

This semantic argument where you argue if discount forgone counts as free or not is really riveting.

A bonus is that both are equally true, so you can continue restating your side indefinitely without any resolution.

Vorian wrote:
This semantic argument where you argue if discount forgone counts as free or not is really riveting.

A bonus is that both are equally true, so you can continue restating your side indefinitely without any resolution.

There is no semantic argument. It's not free. It's gratis and It costs $410 AUD to be gratis.

Go look up the word gratis

You know this is scummy behaviour by GW when someone in Australia has their threshold $130 AUD above someone in the UK. In the middle of a pandemic....

The only thing that is "free" is the insulting anti consumer tactics of GW

first off i like the model, but its notting you cant create from a box off primaris marines. and has it to be a lt how manny do they think you need in you army., would be nice it it wasnt a marine for ones

 GoldenHorde wrote:

Vorian wrote:
This semantic argument where you argue if discount forgone counts as free or not is really riveting.

A bonus is that both are equally true, so you can continue restating your side indefinitely without any resolution.

There is no semantic argument. It's not free. It's gratis and It costs $410 AUD to be gratis.

Go look up the word gratis

You know this is scummy behaviour by GW when someone in Australia has their threshold $130 AUD above someone in the UK. In the middle of a pandemic....

The only thing that is "free" is the insulting anti consumer tactics of GW

Not sure what the historic freezing of exchange rates has to do with your pointless semantic argument.

But you've restated it, congratulations. It's as both true and false as it was before.

Vorian wrote:

 GoldenHorde wrote:

Vorian wrote:
This semantic argument where you argue if discount forgone counts as free or not is really riveting.

A bonus is that both are equally true, so you can continue restating your side indefinitely without any resolution.

There is no semantic argument. It's not free. It's gratis and It costs $410 AUD to be gratis.

Go look up the word gratis

You know this is scummy behaviour by GW when someone in Australia has their threshold $130 AUD above someone in the UK. In the middle of a pandemic....

The only thing that is "free" is the insulting anti consumer tactics of GW

Not sure what the historic freezing of exchange rates has to do with your pointless semantic argument.

But you've restated it, congratulations. It's as both true and false as it was before.

Right ....so the theory from GW apologists now is that GW "froze it" from........must be frozen from Jan 2003's exchange rate.

Legit argument right there

The subject has everything to do with lame anti consumer, anti competitive tactics of GW

Oh no, GW is not shafting Australians...nononono they just have not updated their forex market rates in 18 years.

That's a gold medal perfomance in mental gymnastics right there

It's not being an apologist, it's just what they did.

They then kept regional pricing consistent and the performance of the £ vs most international currency makes things look progressively worse in comparison.

If you look in only local currency then the increases will be pretty consistent worldwide.

All of which is nothing to do with a "free" miniature or not.

Vorian wrote:
It's not being an apologist, it's just what they did.

They then kept regional pricing consistent and the performance of the £ vs most international currency makes things look progressively worse in comparison.

If you look in only local currency then the increases will be pretty consistent worldwide.

All of which is nothing to do with a "free" miniature or not.

You are right its consistent price gouging.

You say nothing to do with the exclusive mini (lol) trap scheme, well you are damn wrong.

This concept is all about steering people away from independent retailers.

Just like the market gouging, it's intended to increase margin, decrease competition.

This is not a coincidence. This is a trend of the company.

Just go back in time a little, compare this moronic scheme to free minis in white dwarf.\

It's insulting.

A free miniature with white dwarf to encourage people to spend extra money and increase profit.

A free miniature to encourage direct purchases and increase profit.

Not really sure how an optional freebie is insulting, but ok.

Vorian wrote:
A free miniature with white dwarf to encourage people to spend extra money and increase profit.

A free miniature to encourage direct purchases and increase profit.

Not really sure how an optional freebie is insulting, but ok.

Yeah...no difference at all

One cost $9.95 back in the day
One cost $410


Care to tell me how many percent difference that is?

Not much of a "freebie". I already broke down it's not worth eschewing your discount retail. That's why people talk about buying GW webstore exclusive minis to get this, which gets back to how this is a slimy, anti consumer, anti competitive tactic by GW, just as webstore exclusive minis are.

I'm not sure what your point is. They are different promotions with different terms? Ok.

If its worth giving up a discount is of course up to the individual. Some people it'll be worth switching, some people will order directly from GW as standard and it'll be pure freebie since they'd never have got a discount anyway.

Just because it's not worth it to you (or me, as it happens) does not make that a universal opinion.


Anti consumer? Obviously not. Its an optional benefit. Only pro consumer by any definition.

Anti competition? Not really. They are in competition with independent retail, but they aren't preventing them doing anything.

You know this since you're talking about how you favour the independent's competitive edge (discounts).

 GoldenHorde wrote:
" Or equivalent local currency, terms and conditions apply"

150 GBP = 280.38 Australian dollar

Somehow that equals $410 Australian dollars

Hey, they never said currently equivalent!

Please, it's a LIMITED product, advertised as such. It's not just a freebie, it's a commemorative, limited product. It's designed to tickle the FOMO/completionist personality aspects of customers. That's why it's price is 150 pounds not 10 pounds and why it's added to store order, and has no way to buy it directly. It is essentially locked behind a 150gbp paywall, even if it's "free". It is in no way pro-consumer, just like all limited edition stuff is in no way pro-consumer because it basically (especially with stuff thats cheap and easy to produce like toy soldiers) keeping the product artificially limited, creating haves and have-nots.

Fortunately for us, this particular model is actually terribly bland.

If GW really wanted to tickcle the FOMO with an extremy limited mini they shouldn't've made it belong to a terribly bland, oversaturated faction.

Vorian wrote:


Anti consumer? Obviously not. Its an optional benefit. Only pro consumer by any definition.

Anti competition? Not really. They are in competition with independent retail, but they aren't preventing them doing anything.

You know this since you're talking about how you favour the independent's competitive edge (discounts).

It's absolutely anti-consumer and an anti competitive practice.

Can the consumer obtain this miniature from their independent stockist? No.
Can the independent stockist sell the miniature? No.
Can the consumer obtain this miniature without paying GW $410AUD or "equivalent". No.

Clearly anti-consumer and anti-competitive practice.

I wonder if this was available as standard in store purchase, limited time, for the usual 20£ if anyone would be interested in buying it.

Cronch wrote:

Offer something you can reliably expect to be desirable, with a qualified above your average spend, but ideally not well above your average spend, and reap the monetary benefit.

Sure, but also, it's a pretty anti-consumer strategy that has no benefit to the customer at all.

It's of benefit to customers that already spend £150 at GW in a month anyway. I don't know who these people are, the GW online store is always more expensive than resellers, by definition. But these people clearly exist. Indeed, apparently there's literally a million of them!

deano2099 wrote:

Cronch wrote:

Offer something you can reliably expect to be desirable, with a qualified above your average spend, but ideally not well above your average spend, and reap the monetary benefit.

Sure, but also, it's a pretty anti-consumer strategy that has no benefit to the customer at all.

It's of benefit to customers that already spend £150 at GW in a month anyway. I don't know who these people are, the GW online store is always more expensive than resellers, by definition. But these people clearly exist. Indeed, apparently there's literally a million of them!

You know what they say, there's a new Warhammer fan born every minute.

 NAVARRO wrote:
I wonder if this was available as standard in store purchase, limited time, for the usual 20£ if anyone would be interested in buying it.

Maybe, maybe not.

But then we'd be hearing about how silly it is to have yet another Space Marine character model for sale.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
I wonder if this was available as standard in store purchase, limited time, for the usual 20£ if anyone would be interested in buying it.

Maybe, maybe not.

But then we'd be hearing about how silly it is to have yet another Space Marine character model for sale.

Clearly the best solution is to stop making bloody Space Marines.