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A lot of images to sift through

hats for sure...

on a side note, i did a quick cardboardmock up to see how a wholepunch would make a arch looking like some treated steel structure...
used two different sizes of holes ...i do see even now the limits of this as it is rather difficult to get the holes where they should be...at least for me...



probably thicker card is needed...this one was almost paperthin...

Nice work!
I like the archway idea, and even more so the holes...
I prefer the smaller size, maybe on 1mm thick plasticard?

The arch looks nice, how about making it more pointy, like a bullet or a cathedral window?

As for the barrel, think half a cylinder, horizontal mounted, with the gun barrel in the centre.... maybe a bit like a shermnan tank???

Or half a ball with the gun barrel in the centre.

Or half a ball with the gun barrel in the centre.

ask and ye shall be giventh^^



the aforementioned cherrybomb half ball...does need after all the glue is fully cured a job of GS to cover a slit that was needed but i think this round axle is quite fitting...

the pointy archway is a nice touch... i think i will try that one out tomorrow...

as for the holes... i am not sure that i can make them in a way that looks like a regular pattern... the holepunch is a bit of a crude jobtool...and this one needs a finer sort...hmm maybe i can tinker a bit around ...

nice job, and tinker away! ^^

will do^^ thanks mate^^

Turret mantlet looks amazing. Yeah, thicker materials for the arch-plates.

Mantle!
That was the thechnical term I was looking for, thanks Shasolenzabi

Yup looking good Vik, though not convinced by the lightning holes on the face of the frame, they would be more likely to be on the side of the lengthways part of a T-Frame. hope that makes sense.

I'd say go for a more Victorian Ironwork look, like Crystal Palace in London, or this stuff. The Victorian train stations, especially, would be good inspiration, Ich glaube.


And you could arch each section, just much smaller arches, between two sides instead of between three sides.

Hey Victor.

These are the afformentioned bread bag clips. if you break them in half they work pretty well for treads on tanks...

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://k2r.hyperborea.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/leet-bread-clip.jpg&imgrefurl=http://enklawadevelopment.pl/nic.php%3Fq%3Dbread-clip&h=229&w=300&sz=20&tbnid=YB_adVemMpHeXM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=116&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dbread%2Bclips%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=bread+clips&hl=en&usg=__YQY55nG8WM3PVHQzSFvOfRP3l7s=&sa=X&ei=CozcTfiuCIS8sAOVvdyVBw&sqi=2&ved=0CGMQ9QEwAw

at sennacherib
i bet these could make quite good kleatstructures for treads...unfortunatly i never came across them here in germany...i wouldn´t even know whre to get them...in germany we use only these:
... but thanks again for the link^^

at chibi

yep i wasn´t convinced by the holes too, too confusing and patternless...

at anvildude
again you are right in every sense of the whole scheme...tho i have no idea how to get that fretwork look on that scale...well actually maybe with lots of GS work it could be achieved, but then this tank wont see completion anywhere near the end of this millenia^^...

And you could arch each section, just much smaller arches, between two sides instead of between three sides

sorry you lost me there...i tried to arch each section, i am considering i made a major mistake when deciding that this turret was octagonal shaped...with uneven shaped parts... i had better do regular shaped sides... then this problem wouldnt have been arised...well...would that be a bit overkill to do the turret again? your opinion?

at shaso
thanks mate^^ thicker material for definite if i do it at all...i know that the style of the turret is generally good but the asymetrics of the design is literally killing lots of options...


thanks again for all your nice and helpfull comments... keep them coming my friends!

vik

Lots of pre-war tanks had odd shapes to the turret and hulls as they experimented with shot deflections angle for the armor.^^

good argument, but the shape is thus complicating my work as it hampers progress, i have to make every bit customshaped, cant do a single thing in batches...this will teach me for the next tank, whenever this may happen...

i have to make every bit customshaped, cant do a single thing in batches...this will teach me for the next tank, whenever this may happen...

your looking at it the wrong way, Vik. It's not something that is hampering you, it is the creation process of making something that is truly UNIQUE.

lol... it is one of a kind alright^^ thanks for the heads up^^

Tank looks good vic. Nearly there

Remember, this is a unique design that you came up with.

yup, made as i went along...so i have to further move along in the same fashion, understood^^

thanks weety...not to really there at all...overall structure maybe but the details oh the the details...to add and to further add^^

For the lattice work effect, go for 1 big hole in the top corner and a 1 small hole below and 1 small hole to the side. The pic below is very crude but I hope you get the idea. If it helps to visualise, raise the o's at the bottom higher
_______
IOo/\oOI
Io/__\oI

interessting concept...have to try that out...


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so ladies and gentlemen...

i had a thought about the turret and the problems i still have to face... and thus i planned a bit of a sidestep to the work...a creational sidestep that is...
i tackled the problem from another angle... a mathematic tackle one could say... this evening i did so much geometry that even in my schooldays i haven´t done...^^
and i constructed the first structures of a symetrically correct (for a given value of correct^^) turret...
all done practically by foot^^ and nevertheless i got around to actually produce something i see as a success...
an ocagonal shape and it is in the process of curing... fear not the parts and bitz i used for the former turret wont be in vain... as at least it gave me insight as to how i could achieve the look i wanted...the major benefit is that this turret will be hollow and thus other option can be "opened"^^...

also i had a flash of ideas as to how to acomplish the lattice work effect or fretwork look...simple solution...i still used my holepunch but not to create complete holes but instead i tried to...er...well...better you give it a look... i think it is rather self explaining...
tho i want to add that i need your advice...for now i did two designs that are a bit different to each other tho still in a haha "framework" of a mindset...so please tell me which one you like better so that this then can get into serial production...

the new shape of the turret... it is still open at the top...


this is how the fretwork (whichever you help me decide^^) will be attached/used to the turrets walls...


i hope you all can discern the differencies of the two designs...


thanks for being here and let me in on your thoughts...

yours truly vik!

Or google iron work:eifel tower for more inspirations Vik.

well i just have to visit our smaller version of the eifel tower in berlin...its called the "funkturm" same style of ironwork almost^^

the one on the right looks really good, but on the model the one on the left looks great....mmm dillema. The shape of the turret is very precise matey. I like them both , they have a middle eastern Islamic feel to them . Very decorative and unusual. they will work well if you implement them mate.


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like these http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=islamic+art&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GBfficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1280&bih=931

thanks neil, for now i have to say the right one is the better looking one atm...i could experiment a third opiton with different sized holes so to give a bit of "more" to the look^^
the work was mainly pure on impulse but it is rather uneasy/difficult to get the holes precisly wher i want them to be...


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yep, i know waht you mean... a bit of 1001 night...hmmm now to think up what to put inbetween those archs...

A load of Dakka !!

lol.... i was more thinking of art...as icons and the likes....^^
of course there will be a big gun^^

Ooooo... I like what you're doing there... Sehr Shön...

What if you did something similar, but on individual sections? So like a bunch of little 'c's, you could them arrange in a lacework pattern? It could be layered on top of a solid background... Use some thin wire for larger struts... Like assembling Stained Glass.

its a trciky one mate , you could use your left over holes? or try some victorian scroll pattern work with green stuff , maybe a line down the middle aithe arrow heads and scroll work comming of it

http://www.lassco.co.uk/?id=58&tx_evlasscoproductdetail_pi1[uid]=7167

So like a bunch of little 'c's

Kindly moderate your temper Sirrah! This is a family show and there is no need for such an outburst!