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 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
and just bear in mind folks, that buggies, trukks and all the rest of our vehicles just got boned by the new rules that template weapons affect open topped vehicles.

The vehicles didn't get boned. The orks got BURNED.

Seriously, I like the idea of this rule. If a mob of orks zip by a Salamander, giving him the finger as they hurtle onto battle, he should unleash promethium upon them.

However, in actual practice, it just makes an assault army weaker and less competitive (hurts those raiders full of wyches, too). Sure, you could offset it with a points drop, but at some point boys are gonna be worth -1 points each at this rate.

Plus, while it makes sense, it ALSO makes sense that shooting at a vehicle that isn't open-topped might hurt a crewmember. Why is it that a flamethrower can burn some ork boys in their trukk, but a LASCANNON, penetrating a Rhino and immobilizing it, has zero chance of hurting a marine?

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
and just bear in mind folks, that buggies, trukks and all the rest of our vehicles just got boned by the new rules that template weapons affect open topped vehicles.

well, at least that screws the dark eldar, too. i hate dem spiky emo pointy-ears!

I like what I'm seeing of the Morkanaut, but I'm not willing to shell out what will probably be a hundred dollars or more just yet.

I'm hoping the next few days bring a few more leaks that make me a bit more excited.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
and just bear in mind folks, that buggies, trukks and all the rest of our vehicles just got boned by the new rules that template weapons affect open topped vehicles.

I think this nerf is more than compensated by the new vehicle damage table. Orks dying due to 5's on the damage rolls has killed far more orks than flamers will.

Leerjawise wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
and just bear in mind folks, that buggies, trukks and all the rest of our vehicles just got boned by the new rules that template weapons affect open topped vehicles.

I think this nerf is more than compensated by the new vehicle damage table. Orks dying due to 5's on the damage rolls has killed far more orks than flamers will.

The problem is that it hurts us more than it helps us.

It's only template weapons. short range, sure it will suck when someone pops out of reserve with 5 templates on my battlewagon, but at least I should be able to do something with another unit next turn and krump those lads.

Also think about all the fun WE will be able to get when we see an open-top vehicle and we can bring a trukk/BW/whatever you want full of burnas. put one template, and declare: Now that's 10D6 hits on your guys inside. 35 hits, 17 wounds... it it's other boys it will be an epic burn.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
and just bear in mind folks, that buggies, trukks and all the rest of our vehicles just got boned by the new rules that template weapons affect open topped vehicles.

Might be an upgrade to make them closed-topped.

Leerjawise wrote:


I think this nerf is more than compensated by the new vehicle damage table. Orks dying due to 5's on the damage rolls has killed far more orks than flamers will.

Yeah, so that's no problem given the exceptional amount of AP2/AP1 that Orks have.

Especially now that we have this awesome new walker with tons of AP4/3 S6 shooting.

 TedNugent wrote:

Leerjawise wrote:


I think this nerf is more than compensated by the new vehicle damage table. Orks dying due to 5's on the damage rolls has killed far more orks than flamers will.

Yeah, so that's no problem given the exceptional amount of AP2/AP1 that Orks have.

Especially now that we have this awesome new walker with tons of AP4/3 S6 shooting.

It makes our hated enemy Armour 14 even more evil.

So they produced a little stompa guy and _didn't_ give it an option for a belly cannon?
Madness.

But look at it this way.

You'll not lose a whole squad of Tankbustas to an Explodes any more

 Ascalam wrote:
But look at it this way.

You'll not lose a whole squad of Tankbustas to an Explodes any more

Agreed. I can see a lot of uses for it. Mostly in getting a small squad of cynobs, burna boyz, or tank bustas close enough to actually do some damage. Often for me they end up dead before they can really do their thing.

Is the morka/Gora/naut an "assault" vehicle?

It is not open top (I hope!) so when it opens up its belly the orks coming out cannot assault right? All 6 of them (or 3 if they are MANz) must just shoot and wait for the next turn?

I really hope flashgitz have super-reliable awesome fire power because with BS2, even if they get 2 shot each they can only hit 4 times. Most units will soak up the 2-3 resulting wounds.

Greyhound wrote:
Is the morka/Gora/naut an "assault" vehicle?

It is not open top (I hope!) so when it opens up its belly the orks coming out cannot assault right? All 6 of them (or 3 if they are MANz) must just shoot and wait for the next turn?

I really hope flashgitz have super-reliable awesome fire power because with BS2, even if they get 2 shot each they can only hit 4 times. Most units will soak up the 2-3 resulting wounds.

I was kinda hoping for Deep Strike myself But it doesn't appear to have any USR's.


I noticed that normally if a transport gets destroyed on the enemies turn, the unit left behind in the wreckage cannot assault on their following turn. Except for assault vehicles! Is this new to 7th?

 Ascalam wrote:
But look at it this way.

You'll not lose a whole squad of Tankbustas to an Explodes any more

You still can, just on 6's instead of 5s.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:and just bear in mind folks, that buggies, trukks and all the rest of our vehicles just got boned by the new rules that template weapons affect open topped vehicles.

Buggies don't transport, but yeah, that rules kinda sucks. Thankfully most template weapons have short range. Torrent, on the other hand...

TedNugent wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
and just bear in mind folks, that buggies, trukks and all the rest of our vehicles just got boned by the new rules that template weapons affect open topped vehicles.

What a resounding cause to go out and buy a $105 model that moves 6 inches per turn and has a 6 model transport capacity.

Things are already looking up

The Gorka/Morkanaut isn't open topped, so that rule doesn't have any effect whatsoever on the 6 models inside it.

 streamdragon wrote:
The Gorka/Morkanaut isn't open topped, so that rule doesn't have any effect whatsoever on the 6 models inside it.

so when it opens its belly the 6 orks can't assault? just shoot?

Greyhound wrote:

 streamdragon wrote:
The Gorka/Morkanaut isn't open topped, so that rule doesn't have any effect whatsoever on the 6 models inside it.

so when it opens its belly the 6 orks can't assault? just shoot?

That's what it looks like right now. We'll know for sure when the Codex comes 'round.

Ok so maybe we'll have some good dangerous shooty orks like Flash gitz...
but in this case why would I want to leave them in a morkanaut for 3 turns as he shuffles around?

Do the new rules about templates hitting passengers inside open top vehicles for flammers only or.other blast templates?

TableTopJosh wrote:
Do the new rules about templates hitting passengers inside open top vehicles for flammers only or.other blast templates?

As far as I've read here, it's the teardrop, not the blasts.

Sorry guys, I am not a fan of this new model, its too boxy and idk lame. 6 unit transport? Come on, who has a unit of only 6 with orks? Ill wait for the new dex but I really hope that it does not have some sort of new model that is an auto take. Also GW please don't ruin my lootas, thanks.

Well as was pointed out earlier, you can drop a small group of Meks inside and they can constantly repair HP or Weapon Destroyed results from inside. With careful planning, you could drop out your assault group, speed a trukk or two to block LOS, and then assault the next turn. It's not ideal, but then assault in 6/7 never really were.


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 zammerak wrote:
Sorry guys, I am not a fan of this new model, its too boxy and idk lame. 6 unit transport? Come on, who has a unit of only 6 with orks? Ill wait for the new dex but I really hope that it does not have some sort of new model that is an auto take. Also GW please don't ruin my lootas, thanks.

Warboss + 5 nobz? MA Warboss and 4 nobz? I agree the 6 transport capacity just seems sort of "there", but there are "options".

I would like to see a squiggth over some walky thing personally :/

Doesn't FW already make a Squiggoth? Not that GW hasn't pilfered Forge World in the past...

 streamdragon wrote:
Doesn't FW already make a Squiggoth? Not that GW hasn't pilfered Forge World in the past...

In general, there is a standing rule that says one cannot make what the other already makes. (it's to stop FW just making better looking versions of everything GW currently does... )

They do but a less spendy plastic one with rules in the codex rather then 40k approved would be nice.

Morkanaught rules



Note the new Meganobz in the corner

Also from user "Imadethisforgifts" from /r/Warhammer on Reddit;

And, as a bonus fun fact, Grot Riggers now give the vehicle they're equipped to it will not die.

 TedNugent wrote:

 Ascalam wrote:
But look at it this way.

You'll not lose a whole squad of Tankbustas to an Explodes any more

You still can, just on 6's instead of 5s.

Actually I was referring to them beating down an enemy vehicle, and then not losing the whole squad when it blows Unless you are fighting DE or orks that is, or someone actually brought a landspeeder

 ntdars wrote:
Morkanaught rules



Note the new Meganobz in the corner

Also from user "Imadethisforgifts" from /r/Warhammer on Reddit;

And, as a bonus fun fact, Grot Riggers now give the vehicle they're equipped to it will not die.

Sorry Dude, you are about 5 pages too late