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Or a typo, one can hope.

zamerion wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
Not seen it mentioned but the preview page has "a time to celebrate" and "new rules" listed for the May issue, could be something, might be nothing.

Maybe AoS General handbook II?

The current General's Handbook dropped on July 23rd, 2016.

 BrookM wrote:
Or a typo, one can hope.

It's almost certain that is a typo. The Skitarii specialist is 90 points. The Neophyte one is probably 100.

 Starfarer wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Or a typo, one can hope.

It's almost certain that is a typo. The Skitarii specialist is 90 points. The Neophyte one is probably 100.

I don't think so...

Why would a random cultist be more than an Ad-Mech foot soldier?

WD describes the new terrain as the first three kits in the Sector Mechanicus range. Fingers crossed its more than just rebrands of existing kits.

Just spotted a crane in the pics of the Ferro-giant alphus board

 NivlacSupreme wrote:

 Starfarer wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Or a typo, one can hope.

It's almost certain that is a typo. The Skitarii specialist is 90 points. The Neophyte one is probably 100.

I don't think so...

Why would a random cultist be more than an Ad-Mech foot soldier?

Because it's not a random cultist, it's a specialist for the gang. Heavies in Necromunda cost more than regular models, partially based on the equipment they had access to.

The cost for the Neophyte heavy is so far off from the rest of the costs listed for everything else that it is 99.9% likely it's a typo.

Interesting that the Hand Flamer doesnt have a template, it is fully converted to range.

 MangoMadness wrote:
Interesting that the Hand Flamer doesnt have a template, it is fully converted to range.

Original 2nd ed/Necromunda Hand Flamer used a much smaller template than the current one does.

nou wrote:

 MangoMadness wrote:
Interesting that the Hand Flamer doesnt have a template, it is fully converted to range.

Original 2nd ed/Necromunda Hand Flamer used a much smaller template than the current one does.

I know, thats why i commented that it has been removed and changed to a ranged weapon

 Verviedi wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Those are not options for those models though.

...Exactly. Encouraging conversions, like old Necromunda.

You can make Rangers with Radium Carbines. That's new, isn't it?

 Crimson wrote:
Can anyone remind me what's the point of the juves (or equivalents)? IIRC, in Necromunda they had different equipment options than normal gangers, but this is not the case with these lists, so are they just slightly cheaper, suckier, basic gangers?

They advance more quickly. Between 0 XP and 21 XP (where they become a Ganger), there are tons more advances, so they get skills and stat upgrades fast.

 Verviedi wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Those are not options for those models though.

...Exactly. Encouraging conversions, like old Necromunda.

As mentioned previously, GW can't sell conversions.

Yep, meatshields and if they survive they end up experienced and gnarly pretty quick.

 Necros wrote:
I bought 2 boxes of Skitarii when they first came out with grand plans for an army, that fizzled out. So I'll definitely be putting together a gang of them.

Are there any regular tyranids in the game? Like a bunch of different gaunts lead by a warrior?

I shall add a Genestealer pet, and I shall name him- Spots.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Verviedi wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Those are not options for those models though.

...Exactly. Encouraging conversions, like old Necromunda.

As mentioned previously, GW can't sell conversions.

Tell that to the Inq28 community. I've spent far more on random kits for converted gangs and warbands than it would cost to build a standard size 40k army. They absolutely encourage conversions or Blanchitsu wouldnt be a fixture in White Dwarf. That said, they aren't going print rules for things that dont come in a box. Not ideal, but dont pretend that is a new thing. Necromunda did it 21 years ago, so this isn't a surprise nor a new development. It's your campaign, add house rules of needed, which was also part of Necromunda as well.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Verviedi wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Those are not options for those models though.

...Exactly. Encouraging conversions, like old Necromunda.

You can make Rangers with Radium Carbines. That's new, isn't it?

Yes, and I truly love that.

 MangoMadness wrote:

nou wrote:

 MangoMadness wrote:
Interesting that the Hand Flamer doesnt have a template, it is fully converted to range.

Original 2nd ed/Necromunda Hand Flamer used a much smaller template than the current one does.

I know, thats why i commented that it has been removed and changed to a ranged weapon

I thought the last incarnation of Necromunda (Underhive) did away with the small hand flamer template. I'm sure it used the current templates.

Conversions (along with the now classic Custodian artwork from the card games) are what pulled me into 40k despite years of naysaying my brother about it and sticking to historicals.

Anything that promotes it is welcome. And to those who say GWcant sell conversions, thry sure sold me on them!

Chairman Aeon wrote:

I thought the last incarnation of Necromunda (Underhive) did away with the small hand flamer template. I'm sure it used the current templates.

It did, same with Community edition

But I always felt that it was too powerful the hand flamer, in that game sure it is only Str3 but still you can hit a lot of duders with it

Didn't Underhive change the Hand Flamer to the regular flamer template, but you got 1 shot and that's it?

 Starfarer wrote:
Tell that to the Inq28 community. I've spent far more on random kits for converted gangs and warbands than it would cost to build a standard size 40k army. They absolutely encourage conversions or Blanchitsu wouldnt be a fixture in White Dwarf. That said, they aren't going print rules for things that dont come in a box. Not ideal, but dont pretend that is a new thing. Necromunda did it 21 years ago, so this isn't a surprise nor a new development. It's your campaign, add house rules of needed, which was also part of Necromunda as well.

Except that GW kits are becoming less and less modular as they react to the CHS situation.

With the exception of Space Marines (and then even some of them with the way they're moulding the hands and weapons) they are trying to drive away the third-party bits industry. Just look at a lot of recent releases - Tzaangors are a good recent example - where their bits are compatible with them and them alone. The arms contain part of the shoulder/shoulder blades, and are as far from generic as possible, making simple conversions and kitbashing very difficult.

 Grot 6 wrote:
I shall add a Genestealer pet, and I shall name him- Spots.

The big Genestealer Cult in our campaign had two Purestrains. The original one was called Huggles.

He just wants to hug!

I am thinking about ordering this off GW website, but it says the product doesn't ship out till the following Monday
So it will be the next Wednesday before I would get mine.. Anyone have experience with GW Mail order in the US??
I have also heard the people get their stuff early instead.. but just wondering..

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Starfarer wrote:
Tell that to the Inq28 community. I've spent far more on random kits for converted gangs and warbands than it would cost to build a standard size 40k army. They absolutely encourage conversions or Blanchitsu wouldnt be a fixture in White Dwarf. That said, they aren't going print rules for things that dont come in a box. Not ideal, but dont pretend that is a new thing. Necromunda did it 21 years ago, so this isn't a surprise nor a new development. It's your campaign, add house rules of needed, which was also part of Necromunda as well.

Except that GW kits are becoming less and less modular as they react to the CHS situation.

With the exception of Space Marines (and then even some of them with the way they're moulding the hands and weapons) they are trying to drive away the third-party bits industry. Just look at a lot of recent releases - Tzaangors are a good recent example - where their bits are compatible with them and them alone. The arms contain part of the shoulder/shoulder blades, and are as far from generic as possible, making simple conversions and kitbashing very difficult.

The hand being molded onto the weapons thing was annoying at first, but now that every kit is that way it makes it just as easy as before. I havent seen the tzaangors, and there are certainly kits that aren't ideal but there's more to work with now that there ever was. One quick search shows just how much versatility there is, and kits like the GSC hybrids have made for so many different unique conversions.

Still that is all beside the point that the person mentioning conversions was for wargear not normally allowed by that faction. Thats not particularly surprising, and again is easily bypassed in a campaign setting where you make the rules. Seems like creating an issue to complain about when there really isn't an issue.

The Tzaangors having their chest and arms in one piece is more likely because it looks way better. They have bare upper bodies, so having their arms connect at the shoulder would look horribly unnatural. They actually came up with a solution that allows for multipose organic creatures without seam lines.

But yeah, these last couple of years have been a goldmine of amazing conversion kits. INQ28 (a community I'm very involved with) has seen a huge surge in popularity, especially on FB, because of how many great, interchangeable kits GW have released lately that have become staples in the community. GSC being the latest, and they're even specifically called out in White Dwarf as being compatible with Skitarii bits.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Pity they're using studio models to play on it and not their own conversions or the like.

You can't sell conversions...

Like all the battle reports for Necromunda, where the players used their own converted gangs? No, that's not right ...

 zedmeister wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
So they did bring back sustained fire dice.

I suspect it will be a d6 roll halved rounding down. Scores of nought, Jam. Unless, of course, you have an old set.

Necromunda Underhive did away with Sustained Fire dice fourteen years ago.
In the original edition, you rolled to hit once, then rolled x Sustained Fire dice. In underhive, you first roll x D3, then make that many To Hit rolls. It's much less all-or-nothing, and the removal of the Jam result is replaced by the possibility of having to make up to 6 Ammo rolls instead of one.

 MangoMadness wrote:

nou wrote:

 MangoMadness wrote:
Interesting that the Hand Flamer doesnt have a template, it is fully converted to range.

Original 2nd ed/Necromunda Hand Flamer used a much smaller template than the current one does.

I know, thats why i commented that it has been removed and changed to a ranged weapon

The Underhive edition tweaked the rules to use the templates available in 3rd edition 40k onwards; the hand flamer in that used the flamer template instead of its old titchy wee one, but only got one shot. I think this version is better.

As for conversions, we all managed to convert metal one-piece Necromunda gangers. If things like Tzanngors not having universal arm joints is putting you off, then I'm going to start complaining about the feckless youth of today.

Sorry if this was already posted but: http://www.miniwars.eu/2017/03/imagenes-white-dwarf-abril.html

A TON of scenery, some Genestealers and Skitarii rules, and other stuff (15 or so pics).

(Spanish article, but you don't need to know spanish to see the pics)

CMLR wrote:
Sorry if this was already posted but: http://www.miniwars.eu/2017/03/imagenes-white-dwarf-abril.html

A TON of scenery, some Genestealers and Skitarii rules, and other stuff (15 or so pics).

(Spanish article, but you don't need to know spanish to see the pics)

Yeah those are my pics that were removed from this thread. Don't know if you can post them.

CMLR wrote:
Sorry if this was already posted but: http://www.miniwars.eu/2017/03/imagenes-white-dwarf-abril.html

A TON of scenery, some Genestealers and Skitarii rules, and other stuff (15 or so pics).

(Spanish article, but you don't need to know spanish to see the pics)

Derived from the pictures of this site, the "game" set will include 1x Alchomite stack, 1x Ferratonic Furnance and a set of walkway including 2x half platform (extra, 4 in total), 2x Corner walkways, 2x half length straight walkways and 2x full length straight walkways.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Except that GW kits are becoming less and less modular as they react to the CHS situation.

With the exception of Space Marines (and then even some of them with the way they're moulding the hands and weapons) they are trying to drive away the third-party bits industry. Just look at a lot of recent releases - Tzaangors are a good recent example - where their bits are compatible with them and them alone. The arms contain part of the shoulder/shoulder blades, and are as far from generic as possible, making simple conversions and kitbashing very difficult.

Yeah but no, given they are demonstrably designing kits to be compatible:



I think you're using the wrong example to prove a point it doesn't prove. As others have stated, the Tzaangor 'arm attached to shoulder' is to avoid the dreaded Catachan Shoulder Seam that looks, well, awful. And the hand attached to weapon has been stated to be to avoid Wonky Weapon Syndrome - ie the hand and gun are always aligned.

I think its more the issue that GW is not going to write rules for such conversions.
Hopefully this game will encourage community like Necromunda and Inquisimunda

So, no news about which factions will have rules?

 Mymearan wrote:
Yeah those are my pics that were removed from this thread. Don't know if you can post them.

While posting images is not always ok, links usually are.