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STC, we all know you can create fantastic ravens. I suggest you apply your creative ideas to something a little different. I think watching you convert Iron Warriors with all of their heavy breacher gear and extra armor would be excellent. I also would be excited to see you apply your painting skills to some nightlords. Of those four choices, I think the raven guard would be my last choice.

Only the emo pansies, STC. Only the emo pansies.

Well, there is also the off-chance I might get me a pile of battle-automata and start a small mechanicum force that can supplement my astartes of whatever legions they now might be.

You know that thing.. when you start picking out the things you want, thinking "this'll make a nice, well-rounded force, a couple of squads, a small support squad, and a small havoc firesupport squad, some cataphractii, you always need a contemptor, a command squad that one can convert into two Centurions.. mmm.. I really want those Vorax battle-automatas.. let's have a squad."

You thrash out a list and it adds up to 2k

Then you go "oh! ... Frak it, I have wanted that Cerastus Castrigator forever.."

Then you remember that you was also going to get that RoB cityfight board and a kit of weathering powders and all of a sudden you remember that yes.. FW is kind of expensive and you still have to get an Imperial Sector terrain kit from GW and you are really happy that you have twoo months wages tucked away for "emergencies".


All I'm saying is I know what I'm going to do the next three-four weeks or so.


Now where on earth can I get my hands on some FoW German Grey primer?

Anyway. Let's get on with things.

Now we are fixing the rear panel in the housing for the Vulcan gatling so one doesnt see into the mess that lies within, also, the crew complains about the draft.

Since we want something nicely curved and somewhat stable we'll need to add somethingfor it to hold on to. A strip of 5x1.5 mm plasticard will do nicely.

Truly awesome scratchbuilding skills! top notch work! Really makes me just go home and build!!!!! Really taking notes on how this monster comes together! ..... for my 2 cents worth... I think this would lend itself very well to IW!!! Just sayin,

This is possibly the best thread I have ever seen! The creativity, imagination and skill you have is amazing. Now removing your balls from my mouth........I was wondering if you could share how you achieved the dark blue/purple for your Heresy Alpha Legion if you don't mind sharing. Hope you don't mind me asking!

Been lurking here forever and made an account specifically to gargle your balls

‘-Can you hear them my brothers? The pitiful shrieks echo through the void, like a flock of crows caught in a firestorm: their cries lost to the inferno´s roar as it consumes them. The slave-children of Lychaeus are no more, their father’s folly has led them to their doom, and now only their ashes remain.’

- Dust Seer Malkoan, Librarius, Pale Nomads Chapter, XIX Legion. 606th Fleet, Excertus Imperialis. Circa 601.006M31.

Location: Unknown.

Maybe I missed it in the 42 pages of this thread, how did you get the really nice indigo color on your ALs? I have been wanting to do AL but didn't want to go the dark blue route since I already have a huge force of Night Lords. So paint scheme has been holding me back for a few years now.

Hmm. I use a mix of vallejo storm blue and a dash of purple to produce the base colour, the models are basecoated with a mix of that indigo mix and black, then worked up to the base mix, then light grey is added for the highlights.

anyway.. I bought some resin!







And a cityscape board..









So begins the next hobby project.

The 1st Legion.. well.. there are no rules out yet so they got cut. I thought long and hard about the 4th Legion, and I worked back and forth with a list comprising of breachers, rapier platforms and artillery tanks with some battle-automata for fun, yet in the end they fell short.
Night Lords or Raven Guard?
Looking at the rules, well, the ravens get fleet & Infiltrate for the non-Bulky infantry (who gets furious charge) and a lot of funny wargear. Bonus squads are shadowmasters – good infantry killers with options for sniper rifles and dark talons- assaultmarines with lightningclaws.
The nightlords however.. they have great character. Bonus to wound whenever they outnumber their foe, nightvision, +1 to all rolls to fall back because you know, if you are going to flee then you flee well. And also the nice rule that if the warlord dies all squads not led by IC’s must take a morale check like if having taken 25% casualties from shooting..
I love it.
And Terror squads.. I love me some terror squads. They are my favourite unit ever. Close-combat veterans that can infiltrate or take drop pods and with the option to add Volkite chargers. And you can make them troops.
Then there’s the fact that they are blue.. I don’t’ want to paint another blue army..

Frak.

Then I thought: ‘-hey wait a sec. what about the terran veterans of the 19th Legion?’ so back to the books I went. Turns out the original warriors of the XIX where a lot different to the ones brought up under Corax. First off they recruited exclusively from Terra, from the Xeric techno-nomads that roamed the southern Asiatic dust-plains that had fought for untold generations against the Yndonisic Block in the north before the Unification of Terra. Frakkin’ aussie-, kiwi- and maori-descended techno-barbarians.. Great. God damned mad max all over the place…
Not only that but they also had a highly cavalier attitude to collateral damage and more prone to the use of terror-tactics, but still murderously efficient in infiltration, sabotage, assassinations and raiding tactics and operated for over a hundred years almost as a specialist formation within the much larger Luna Wolves legion.
Needless to say, Corax, the darn bleeding heart, was less than amused and sent off large portions of the old Terran veterans in nomad-predation fleets out into the halo-zone, the ghoul stars and other far-off places, some almost immediately after resuming command of the legion and the last bunch in 998.M30. Just 8 years before the heresy. And after Isstvan he did not recall them even though these warriors heavily outnumbered his own depleted legion of only 4000 astartes.
We’ll go on an adventure with the Pale Nomads chapter of the XIXth Legiones Astartes, sent into the outer void with sealed orders 80 years before the heresy just as Corax was reunited with the Legion. Veterans of the Unification Wars and the Great Crusade, loyal sons of the Emperor – yet not so loyal to Corvus Corax and the Raven Guard whom they think of as weak and overtly ruled by emotion, not willing to pay the price of victory.

So it’s Night Lords! And Raven Guard!
Night Lord rules – Raven Guard colours and terror-squad galore!

How can this go wrong?




And don't worry, I will finish the damn stormlord, I am almost done with the bridge.

Have a look. There has been progress.













Enjoy!

Sounds like an awesome army concept! Are these the same exiled RG that later possibly became the Characadons Astra Chapter?

Man, what an update! So many good things are going to be in the offing on this blog... just can't wait to see it all unfold.

@Paradigm: Quite possibly, though the books give no pointers to wich of the fleets eventually -returns- to the grey colours of their origin and take the Great White for their sigil. Perhaps it was the nomad-predation fleet led by Arkhas Fal, Legion Commander for over three decades before the discovery of Corax, he got the boot too pretty quick by his primarch. There where quite a lot of them, the majority of the oldest verterans of the legion and every single veteran of the Unification Wars of Terra and the Sol system was eventually exiled in this manner. After that the majority of the remaining Terrans in the Raven Guard were lost at the battle of Gate Forty-Two in the Actum-Sothos Cluster, a battle that decimated the Legion to only 80,000 warriors, this was only a few years before Isstvan.


@Gitsplitta: I know! We're gonna go get us an imperial sector and some other terrain this weekend.

That's one nice haul of resin you got! Which of the HH Characters did you get?

This one ofc!

I kind of assumed so, but thought maybe you got bit by the Primarch bug or some such. Will you be getting Sevetar or Kruse for the NLs? They don't particularly fit your fluff, but are almost auto-gets for Legion armies.

Nah. I prefer to make my own characters and sevatar dosn't have a ruleset that is particularly useful for my army so a well-kitted Preator will suit my needs better since I'll be able to add a Consul for the points-gap.

You lucky Swede... I hope for some reason you are stuck in Old Town when the tourists are afoot!

I'm sorry, that is just a cruel punishment from someone who is jealous. I love that you picked a sub faction inside the legion, that's so cool.

Great update.

‘-Can you hear them my brothers? The pitiful shrieks echo through the void, like a flock of crows caught in a firestorm: their cries lost to the inferno´s roar as it consumes them. The slave-children of Lychaeus are no more, their father’s folly has led them to their doom, and now only their ashes remain.’

- Dust Seer Malkoan, Librarius, Pale Nomads Chapter, XIX Legion. 606th Fleet, Excertus Imperialis. Circa 601.006M31.



‘- I know not what madness has beset Horus Lupercal and the Wolves, nor does it matter. They were our sworn brothers and we wrought war upon the foes of Man for more than a hundred years side-by-side, but that was yesterday. Now they and their ilk are but prey beneath our blades – my hunters will see to that.’

- Consul-Praevian Olakh Sah, Pale Nomads Chapter, XIX Legion. 606th Fleet, Excertus Imperialis. Circa 685.006M31.




‘No, we are not re-deploying to Kiavahr, Fleetmistress, the Legion have spoken and we are of one mind. Let the Raven Lord and his little birds flutter against the storm as best they can, our ´father´ made our position perfectly clear when he sent us into the void so long ago, and even if he escapes Lupercal’s talons he will not recall us. No, we fight as we always have: for the Emperor and the Emperor alone. Let the Primarch and his insipid children rot in their graves: we are sons of Terra and the Emperor, we are the 19th Legion. Dust Clad, the Pale Nomads! We will make the Warmaster remember the hidden blades that brought his Legion so many of its victories, and he will pay for that memory with the blood of his sons!’

- Strike-Captain Khargun Sharn, Battlegroup Commander, XIX Legion. 606th Fleet, Excertus Imperialis. Circa 689.006M31.


‘The Dust Seers whisper of foul portents surrounding the fallen legions, dark things, wyrdling things. No matter, we shall endure, as we endured the psyk-wrougt weapons from before Old Night, wielded by the Tyrant of Ursch as we cast his armies into bloody ruin on the Asiatic plains, as we endured the scouring of the xenos-infested moons of Jupiter and the stygian nightmares that boiled forth from the depths of Lysithea as we purged it with Volkite-fire and dread Phosphex. We shall see their equal in both horror and hardship before this… rebellion has run its course.’

- Ancient Kromus, Contemptor Dreadnought, Deliverers Chapter, XIX Legion. 606th Fleet, Excertus Imperialis. Circa 692.006M31.


‘-Alright, alright! Settle down you mutts! Let me give you the run-down before you return to that mucking about that you sorry excuses for legionnaires call ´knife drills´. In his infinite wisdom our fearless Strike-Captain Sharn, together with the company masters, the Librarius and the Ancients, have decided that we’ll call quits on things here in the outer rim and make haste towards the galaxy proper to engage whatever traitor forces we can find and give them a good thrashing! Yes, yes, I know, we’ll be taking on our former brothers without support, reinforcements and with limited prospects of resupply. So you lot will remain on basic rations, - stop whining trooper Kaon. We will be doing it with the twenty-six hundred battle-brothers of the Pale Nomads, supported by the brave boys and girls of the 638th Solar Auxilia Cohort, Magos Askar’s Reductor war-covenant, seventeen scions of honoured house Scipio, our titan support of nine war-engines of the Legio Praesagius and the forty warships of the intrepid 606th fleet. Against us stands at least eight full legions and their supporting Auxilia, Mechanicum forces and Titan Legions, I’d say we have our work cut out for us boys, so you get back to your drills and sharpen your knives. We effect warp-translation when we reach the Mandeville-point in sixteen hours and from there on you are all on full combat-alert. Dismissed!’

- Centurion Markerian, Pale Nomads Chapter, XIX Legion. 606th Fleet, Excertus Imperialis. Adressing the warriors of the 2nd company abord the Legatus Class battlebarge ‘Charybdis’. Circa 692.006M31.







Yes! The Pale Nomads chapter.

Exited yet? I sure am.

Well, you know how this goes, me an my best buddy marcus will over the forseeable future build, convert, paint and go bananas with our armies and the wonderful, fantastic campaign and cityfight systems in HH4: Conquest.

Why don't I build more bodies for the Legion? well.. first off making them bigger takes quite litterally -forever- and yeah.. wanted to do another army. Also, Marcus also loves the Legion and did insist on playing them so..
Buuut there is mechanicum and solar auxilia allies on the horizon so things will remain interesting I think.

We will start out with 250pts suicide squads, then step it up gradually. Now, I should ask myself: can I use a Contemptor to begin with? No. Can I use a Centurion? Mmmm nope. Can I use a Librarian consul? nope.

Well why am I building those instead of the 10 veterans I should be building?

Shiny. I always fall for the shinies first. Also, I love the Contemptors, they are a joy to work with.



Have som pictures! I know the characters don't have their backpacks on but I need it to be like that so I can paint them properly.
And before you ask: Librarians in 30K does not have access to Psycic hoods, ergo, the model has none.


What fun you can have with the Mk III commandset!








Carving out the teeth and the globes from the world eaters logo was tense but sooo worth it, I do think this is the prettiest contemptor of them all, also, I am very pleased with how the base turned out.

Great update! Are these guys going to have an alternate color scheme or what? I don't know much about the Raven Guard, let alone their pre-heresy start.

Great stuff, and I agree that contemptor is the best.

Is and of that awesome fluff also 'official'?

Were the Terran Based Raven Guard called Pale Nomads and such?

Anyway, as usual, you rock!

Yes Alpharius, I got it directly from the background in HH:3.

The XIXth have two unofficial cognomens listed in the fluff "the Dust Clad" and "the Pale Nomads" first coined by the Luna Wolves whom the legion was attached to in the early days, ie epithets used before an official name was given to supplement the Legion Numeral. Some got theirs early - the Luna Wolves after the pacification of Luna and the capture of it's gene-factories, the Iron Hands where known as "the Iron Tenth" long before they took the name of their gene-father and the XXth have no less than 16 listed with a parentheses reading "732 other cognomen occur in Primaris level archives", among them 'the children of Eris', 'the ghost legion', 'the last unity', 'the amaranth coil' and 'Legion'

The Pale Nomads chapter is also breifly mentioned in two instances. The first about how their Deliverers - the legions name for its formations of Terminator shock-troops where honoured by Hourus for their ferocity in battle and that he included them in his personal retinue until Corax was discovered and claimed the legion. Another notes its large number of veterans of the unification wars and cataphractii assault formations.

Numbers and war-disposition is my own fiction however as no hard numbers are avalible.

I am tinkering with the colours right now, I think I will go with black plate, green lenses, dark metal trim and light grey left shoulderpads with the legion numerical. Going to keep the number of raven-sigils to a minimum to illustrate the cultural gulf between the 'old' legion and the 'new'.

Just loved the way you've mixed man-made and natural objects for that contemptor base. Looks amazing (even unpainted).

Aye, an epic start!

Thank you guys.

I am trying to go all-out and take my time with the bases, sparing no effort (or models) for this project. We will be setting our campaign in the events of book IV (conquest) wich takes place in what will be the Gothic Sector.








We'll start out where the book leaves off: The worlds of the Cyclops cluster, the Grail Abyss, the Manarchean Commonwealth and the Armada Imperialis sector anchorage of Port Maw have fallen to the forces of the warmaster, only the Coronid Reach remains contested.
On Bitter Hold, Darende and Dispater Imperial forces still hold against the Warmaster's onslaught and on Hell Rock the Sons of Horus clash with Iron Hands of the Morragul Clan. Across the Cerada Primus, Secundus, Quavausari and Olverach systems the Tericos of the Agathene Solar Auxila and loyalist Knightly houses are engaging the Taghmata forces of the Cyclothrathi Mechanicum for control and on the Hive World Numinal they have secured victory over the mecanicum invaders, inflicting a sizable loss for the turncoat Forge World.

In the closing months of 008.M31 only one domain outside the Coronid Reach resists the Warmaster: Mezoa. Located to the coreward south-west of the Reach between the heavily populated Cyclops Cluster and the Grail Abyss, the Forge World is under blockade and constant assault by the Death Guard and the Taghmata of nearby M'pandex yet it holds firm, burning the landingzones of the rebels and thus eliminating vital beacheads for their ground assault.

But across the sector, survivors from the killing grounds of Isstvan are slowly tickling in. Not only the Shattered Legions but also bands of survivors from Isstvan III, wearing the black or in some cases; the old.
Warriors in the Stormcloud and crimson of the Dusk Raiders, the Cobalt and calcium white bearing the red dog of the War Hounds. The mist-grey and obsidian of the Luna Wolves.


From the outer dark of the Halo-zone stalks the ebon ships of the XIXth Legion, returning to the Imperium after 8 decades in the void to hunt the traitor legions: yet across the worlds, unseen and unknown; The Legion awaits...

I love it!

Forge on - FORGE ON!

So exciting!

Really looking forward to these seeing some paint.

How about sticking to the pre-unity scheme?

I have concidered it. I might try it out on a test model.

That tone of grey though is a bit like white, daarn tricky to get even gradients with but I shall give it a whirl.

I ordered an airbrush kit a few days ago so that might help with the problem.









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By the way. Have anyone ever worked with forge world's Realm of Battle tiles, specificly the city tiles?

I am pulling my hair with those damn things, I just cant get them level and even, I have managed to reduce the amount by degrees but they still make quite convincing imitations of run-over bananas.

Perhaps I was expecting too much of them but still, it's so frustrating it makes me wanna scream.

Pls help if you know something... anyone!