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Murderfang sounds pretty cool, but unfortunately he is doomed to end up like every other CC focused dread I've ever fielded. Immobilized on turn 2 and spending the whole game making rude gestures at the enemy.

 Jayden63 wrote:
Murderfang sounds pretty cool, but unfortunately he is doomed to end up like every other CC focused dread I've ever fielded. Immobilized on turn 2 and spending the whole game making rude gestures at the enemy.

Don't you mean Murdergestures?

If any of these rumored rules floating around are true, then the amount of snowflaking is to damn high. And if it's true that Ward has written it... A new age of hate for him begins.

Murderfang, with his Murderclaws and his Murderlust, inside his wolfy Murderpod. Wich is launched from a Murdercannon... etc. etc.

No one author writes them. it's design team now.

 pretre wrote:
No one author writes them. it's design team now.

Since when does that stop the Wardhate?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 pretre wrote:
No one author writes them. it's design team now.

Since when does that stop the Wardhate?

Nothing stops the Wardhate. I should never have changed my sig.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Jayden63 wrote:
Murderfang sounds pretty cool, but unfortunately he is doomed to end up like every other CC focused dread I've ever fielded. Immobilized on turn 2 and spending the whole game making rude gestures at the enemy.

Don't you mean Murdergestures?

Nope. While I can see the amusement of the SW name calling and what not its gotten really stale over the last say 4 years and I've never been to fond of getting drawn into it. GW naming is what it is, doesn't look like it will change anytime soon for the better either. But I don't need to participate on the over hashed usage either.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Murderfang armed with Murderclaws and having Murderlust.

Oh Jesus...

Yep, they definitely hired Dethklok.
Next White Dwarf will have Murderface show-casing his Murderfang with it's Murderclaws painted bloody, to accentuate it's murderlust.


Yeah, Murderface is fictional. Marketing will still find a way.

 plastictrees wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Murderfang is fine. Murderfang armed with Murderclaws whilst in the grips of Murderlust isn't.

You're just making him sound crazy now. Really he puts his Murderpants on one leg at a time just like the rest of us.

Exalted. Thanks for the chuckle!

 pretre wrote:
No one author writes them. it's design team now.

It's always been a design team. The notion that one person wrote the book with no input from anyone else was stupid. But writers have a signature, and bad naming conventions (and terrible fluff in general) is Ward's.

In any case, I didn't mention Ward. Murdermurder McMurdermuder is dumb independent of whomever thought it up.

I thought that was Kelly's gimmick?
Space wolves on wolves with wolf claws of wolving, etc etc.

Sigh these rules look so bad from the leaked codex. Why GW O WHY

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I thought that was Kelly's gimmick?

Two words:

Nemesis DOOOOOOOOMFIST.

Oh right, I forgot about that.
That is pretty silly. Like, bad comic / B-Movie silly.

Kal-El wrote:
Sigh these rules look so bad from the leaked codex. Why GW O WHY

In what way?

Anything is better than the old Codex. Time the Sons of Russ were given the chance to get back in the thick of it.
Wolves get the opportunity and check out Bethor's Banners on eBay. Best way to dress up your chapter.

Haakon Norssl wrote:
Anything is better than the old Codex. Time the Sons of Russ were given the chance to get back in the thick of it.
Wolves get the opportunity and check out Bethor's Banners on eBay. Best way to dress up your chapter.

The last codex was great...

 pretre wrote:

Haakon Norssl wrote:
Anything is better than the old Codex. Time the Sons of Russ were given the chance to get back in the thick of it.
Wolves get the opportunity and check out Bethor's Banners on eBay. Best way to dress up your chapter.

The last codex was great...

and can still be competitive, we just don't have the auto-win function anymore.

For its time yes. It is still very good though some part of it definitely can use a bit of reshaping with the times and realigning of pts costs and what not.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Murderfang is fine. Murderfang armed with Murderclaws whilst in the grips of Murderlust isn't.

It's almost like they're using cheater dice and rolling on the Deathwatch Custom Chapter naming table for this stuff!

Maybe Murderlust will give him assault out of drop pods? I can't honestly see how they'd expect people to field him when he's either stuck coming out on turn one or footslogging across the board.

Not to mention, the picture doesn't technically say Murderfang is a dreadnought. It just says "New Dreadnoughts!", it could just be badly worded and talking about a new Venerable dreadnought model and Murderfang ends up being the rumoured MC. Slim to none chance I know but it's still possible, right?

 Anpu42 wrote:

and can still be competitive, we just don't have the auto-win function anymore.

When did you ever?

There's never been a time in the 5e dex's history that it was top dog. In the top-tier, but never the best.

 Anpu42 wrote:

Kal-El wrote:
Sigh these rules look so bad from the leaked codex. Why GW O WHY

In what way?

If the stuff from pg 36 is all true, most of the stuff wasn't changed, didn't get new models, or changed for the worst. We got silly looking flyers with cool skill sets, no stormraven talon etc, no AA tanks, sagas are gone, TWC unchanged, swift claws BS was 3 still...it's just sounding so bad...then top it off with wolf gaurd and The grey hunter +2 pt tax, no werewolf wulfen stuff....I hope a supplement comes out. I know most are happy with bjorn, but omg really a dreadnought? They suck IMO, and if he is the only new cast of the models then dang.

I'm really disappointed.

Kal-El wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:

Kal-El wrote:
Sigh these rules look so bad from the leaked codex. Why GW O WHY

In what way?

If the stuff from pg 36 is all true, most of the stuff wasn't changed, didn't get new models, or changed for the worst. We got silly looking flyers with cool skill sets, no stormraven talon etc, no AA tanks, sagas are gone, TWC unchanged, swift claws BS was 3 still...it's just sounding so bad...then top it off with wolf gaurd and The grey hunter +2 pt tax, no werewolf wulfen stuff....I hope a supplement comes out. I know most are happy with bjorn, but omg really a dreadnought? They suck IMO, and if he is the only new cast of the models then dang.

I'm really disappointed.

TWC dropped 10 PPM, Grey Hunter is 1 PPM more expensive with the old loadout compared to old PPM. They will also be able to take the Stormwolf as DTs.

The Fliers are great, and giving SW 2 more beyond those would be a lot of fliers. The most of any SM chapter.

Swiftclaws dropped 5PP, Skyclaws dropped 3PPM

Sagas going away does suck.

No AA tanks, but they can't give SW everything in the C:SM book AND their own stuff. I don't think many people consider the Stalker or Hunter that great anyway.

SW apparently will be getting some cool Dreadnought toys(Storm Shield Dreadnoughts, whatever that does)

The new SW specific weapons from the fliers will also be on Dreadnoughts.

Gaining a powerful character on a chariot(chariot rules could make him amazing).

Gained relics, gained 2 new characters(Deathwolf+Murderfang)

Sagas being warlord trait powerful and choosing them may be big.

 Thorgrim Bloodcrow wrote:
Maybe Murderlust will give him assault out of drop pods? I can't honestly see how they'd expect people to field him when he's either stuck coming out on turn one or footslogging across the board.

Not to mention, the picture doesn't technically say Murderfang is a dreadnought. It just says "New Dreadnoughts!", it could just be badly worded and talking about a new Venerable dreadnought model and Murderfang ends up being the rumoured MC. Slim to none chance I know but it's still possible, right?

The Murderlust rule has been posted in several other places and what it does is: Ignores crew shaken and crew stunned results

I hadn't caught the TWC price drop. Good news, but I wonder if that makes them decent. Hmm...

On the one hand, in a unit of five that's a 50 point drop, which is pretty hefty. But 40 ppm still seems over-costed to me for what they offer, using khorne hounds and spawn as benchmarks.

I mean hell. Bloodcrushers are considered overcosted for what they do, yet they're only 45 points and come stock with Ap3 weapons, WS/BS5, fear, deep-strike, rage, a 5++ and an additional wound all in exchange for TWC's 3+ sv.

 tarnish wrote:
Really? Of all the unique and interesting things they could have done with the space wolves, they decided that YET ANOTHER dreadnought kit was the way to go. Amazingly creative, god i love the design department sometimes. When it comes to loyalist chapters they could just install a copy machine and fire the staff.

I'm sure the Murderfang was born out of the deisre to sell more Bjorn kits.

Why just sell a unique hero, when you can add the bits to make a kit you can use, and therefore sell, multiple copies of ?

And, to be fair, we're getting a chariot, a flyer with two variants and possibly 2 new dread variants (murderfang and Axe/SS Ven Dread). That's just new stuff, not counting changes to old.

Ladies and Gentlemen, The Smurf Wolves have arrived...