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I welcome Mr. Steven Burroughs, a former "Team Lader"(sic) at RGIS.

So the shop that was closed is now closed again.
And the closed shop that was closed and is still closed is now being sold to someone else; who that person is we don't know we just know there is a mediator.

Honestly I wonder if its a smoke-screen - get Dakka all riled up over that whilst somewhere else he's running a different company. I mean he can't seriously think he can salvage RF

Interesting. So roughly six months after Resin Forge dropped off everyone's radar a terribly tarnished brand name is allegedly being shut down and traded, and an administrator (who is also from Dallas, and has either no friends or a list that is not public) has come on board to oversee the transfer of title (of which there is no evidence that there was legally a company) and the transfer of assets (maybe $2k of ForgeWorld resin parts)

 Overread wrote:

Honestly I wonder if its a smoke-screen - get Dakka all riled up over that whilst somewhere else he's running a different company. I mean he can't seriously think he can salvage RF

I concur. This was my first thought as well, he's possibly prodding that old ant's nest to divert attention from something else.

That would be counterproductive. Most of the community weren't really on the lookout for him, and probably wouldn't have said anything if a new company popped up.

Reviving Resin Forge meant that we are now on the lookout again.

It might be a merger, with Tony Reidy.

Deetoz wrote:
That would be counterproductive. Most of the community weren't really on the lookout for him, and probably wouldn't have said anything if a new company popped up.

Reviving Resin Forge meant that we are now on the lookout again.

But he's kind of a whore for attention, especially the bad kind.

Christ on a bike! Why won't this guy go away?

 alarmingrick wrote:

Deetoz wrote:
That would be counterproductive. Most of the community weren't really on the lookout for him, and probably wouldn't have said anything if a new company popped up.

Reviving Resin Forge meant that we are now on the lookout again.

But he's kind of a whore for attention, especially the bad kind.

My thoughts as well. He's not the kind of guy to just set up quietly as far as I can tell.

 JamesGang wrote:
Christ on a bike! Why won't this guy go away?

Because he is a criminal and loves to be such an ting

I request that people should only post to this thread if they have substantive information about Resin Forge or any other Mandelbaum company.

As of 2 hours ago he says the new "owner" is doing some skype conference call nonsense to answer any concerns the public may have.

The biggest question here is why ANYONE would want anything to do with the Resin Forge name, even if they bought all of it's stock.

Might as well start up Enron again, or any other number of company names with tarnished backgrounds.

Plenty of companies liquidate assets, and most of the time those who buyout the whole thing just dissolve the name and keep the actual assets.

 Aerethan wrote:
As of 2 hours ago he says the new "owner" is doing some skype conference call nonsense to answer any concerns the public may have.

The biggest question here is why ANYONE would want anything to do with the Resin Forge name, even if they bought all of it's stock.

Might as well start up Enron again, or any other number of company names with tarnished backgrounds.

Plenty of companies liquidate assets, and most of the time those who buyout the whole thing just dissolve the name and keep the actual assets.

I just saw that post. This is going to be a trainwreck again because it is in no way trustworthy.

"Oh look we totally sold it now it's a new guy and everything is totally fine time to buy more stuff from us".

No.

Yup. Only 1 person out there is crazy enough to pull the exact same sold to new owners scam twice. Or to think they needed a news conference to announce the sale of 2k of FW bitz from one basement to another.

On the off chance, which given the track record is zero as they were never, ever honest and transparent.... But on the off chance we there was someone interested in purchasing a 'brand' (lol) as viciously tarnished as this one, they deserve what's coming to em. Even the vaguest due diligence would show who they were doing business with. Someone must simply be bored and desperate for attention again.

In other breaking news, I will be having a press conference to announce the successful sale of my xbox360 on eBay to another big corporate entity, jimmy the 8th grader from Wyoming who's parent company, mom and dad, let him use their paypal to do it.

 MajorTom11 wrote:


In other breaking news, I will be having a press conference to announce the successful sale of my xbox360 on eBay to another big corporate entity, jimmy the 8th grader from Wyoming who's parent company, mom and dad, let him use their paypal to do it.

Well, Jimmy has to spend his oil money on something...

(Exalted )

 Aerethan wrote:
The biggest question here is why ANYONE would want anything to do with the Resin Forge name, even if they bought all of it's stock.

This, in spades. It's not like they're some massive, established and well-known brand-name in the gaming community. It's a little company that was being run out of someone's house, with an established customer base that I would guess would number in the hundreds. It's simply not worth the hassle of transferring the company instead of just buying out their stock and using it to start up a new company from the ground up.

The idea that anyone would actually be buying Resin Forge and going to all this trouble to 'clear their name' is just farcical.

Technically doesn't RF have a clean slate - at least order processing wise if I recall right it never got to scam/incompetence stages. Of course I'm excluding the whole dodgy area of who was in charge and business registration, but on the order front were there any with RF bad orders?

Far as I see it that, and the name, are about the only positive aspects that could possibly be present for Resin Forge. The stock holding is honestly tiny and its Forge World ordered so its not unique nor is it highly profitable due to the nature of ordering from FW in the first place. The only area where there was potential profit was the conversions Daniel made (which if he's honest, won't be part of RF now because he's not having anything to do with it).


Considering that the FB account restarted with a post saying "hi ;P" I suspect its either attention seeking or a smokescreen. That or he's hoping to put enough distance as he can between actual scam/incompetence and the warning noise generated by his involvement that he can slow grow a loyal customer base to defend himself with. Sadly a viable option as, least by his past displays at retail, it oft takes a fair while before things fall apart

No, no clean slate. Lied constantly. Refused to produce any credentials. Harrased former customers. Operated under several aliases. Issued threats.

You cannot seperate a Mandelbusiness from Mandelbaum. That would be a critical mistake. Resinforge having reached scam stage or not has absolutely no bearing on the fact the guy who runs it is known to have scammed dozens of times over and continues the same behaviours. If I go and steal a bunch of cars, but then change my name from Tom to Tim, am I not still a car-thief regardless?

Also, don't take his 'likes' on that page to = value... those are very likely (no pun intended) to be payed for as the came in 2 clumps, are spread all over the world on little used accounts, and finally he only ever had at best 10 people actually respond to the posts on the page.

Resinforge has no value. It is a name twice used by scammers already lol... Mandelbaum wasn't even the first sketchy guy operating under the name! That's not the kind of pr you want to buy lol...

Tom I mean only in so far as delivering orders - I fully agree that the rest of the business practice was a total mess.

 Overread wrote:
Tom I mean only in so far as delivering orders - I fully agree that the rest of the business practice was a total mess.

no. Not unless we see physical copies of documents identifying the new owners, as being distinct from Mr. Mandelbaum, from a lawyer that has placed their certified seal on the paper and is recognized to be a practicing member of the correct state's bar association.... I refuse to accept that any sane person wouldn't know how to do their research into a company's history before buying it, and then willingly taking over a business that's been sunk like this. This stinks.

The Facebook posts say there is a Skype session upcoming with the new owner. How does one get on the list for THAT!??!

-Porkuslime

 poda_t wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Tom I mean only in so far as delivering orders - I fully agree that the rest of the business practice was a total mess.

no. Not unless we see physical copies of documents identifying the new owners, as being distinct from Mr. Mandelbaum, from a lawyer that has placed their certified seal on the paper and is recognized to be a practicing member of the correct state's bar association.... I refuse to accept that any sane person wouldn't know how to do their research into a company's history before buying it, and then willingly taking over a business that's been sunk like this. This stinks.

Surely in order for the title of Resin Forge to be properly transferred to a new owner we'd need to see the prior documents showing that Resin Forge was indeed incorporated, who was involved with the company, and in what capacity.


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 porkuslime wrote:
The Facebook posts say there is a Skype session upcoming with the new owner. How does one get on the list for THAT!??!

-Porkuslime

If it is anything like the previous video the question is would you want to be on the invite list

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Well I just reported it to Facebook as a Scam/Spam. Not sure what good that'll do but if everyone reading this thread does it en masse maybe Facebook will take note.

You have my mouse!

As you say, not sure if it matters, but it could not hurt.

 Overread wrote:
Technically doesn't RF have a clean slate-

Nope! The name is poison, and if the stock was actually being bought by someone of any intelligence, they would know that there's no need to bring up the resin forge name at all. Forge World is Forge World. They get the inventory and do their own work with it, no need to dredge up all the pre-existing bad will from a company that never really existed in the first place.

Exactly. No-one in their right mind would expend any effort into fixing the RF name. Why buy a bad company with a poisoned reputation and almost no turnover and host a Skype conference to clear up any customers concerns, when you could just buy the stock and start with a clean slate?

At this point, the guys probably just trolling.

If he was serious about starting up a new scam, surely he'd appear under a different name and business?

Well without knowing how much "juice" resin forge has, I could see someone being interested in it from a search engine stand point. Not sure how much stickiness the domain has from an SEO ranking standpoint, especially given that the site has been shut down.

Also not sure how much "penetration" there is on the storied history of Mandelbaum so cant really determine how much of a PR black eye the company has. I'd assume there is a lot of traction out there on getting the word out but then again there are still people that buy things full price from GW that dont know about internet discounters.

That being said, even assuming best case that the resin forge brand is an SEO beast and that there isnt as much knowledge out there as it seems there is about mandelbaum, I cant see anyone with any real business sense wanting to touch resin forge. Just doing some basic due diligence on the company would raise too many red flags for me to invest

So Daniel is the owner again and has no wish to continue running RF er ....... didn't he leave and the NEW owners say that he was nothing to do with the company anymore! (no sirrih bob no Daniel M here or words to that effect ) So we should expect a NEW NEW owner who is also not Dan to buy the "Company" and start up trading

I've been looking at the page. I remember him having a hissy fit and shouting about not being Mandelbaum, then suddenly changing to being Mandelbaum and two others. Then he left and the two others were closing it down.. Now he's selling it.

"Resin Forge Store: Dakka says im Daniel and hive mind is Daniel as well. So im arguing with myself? In a private message? The fact the person keeps liking his own posts, its Kronk from Dakka. Hes the ONLY person on here ive seen like every comment they make.
Synes godt om · 5. juni 2013 kl. 03:42"

And

"Resin Forge Store: I told the guy 6 times and hes posted the same thing over and over. When we told him to call the police on Daniel if he felt that way he then said he doesnt operate that way and basically started talking about me being Daniel and jerking off at the pleasure of it. This is why we are shutting down. People exactly like this.
Synes godt om · Svar · 1 · 5. juni 2013 kl. 01:50"
I can only find these two bits of denying himself now.

You're right, I'm confused as hell.

i'm sorry if this is considered off-topic, as it is a question, not news, but wasn't Resin Forge's big move that they were going to the HH Weekender and were going to be bringing back a bunch of the Fulgrim sculpts to sell???
turns out they never attended, didn't have any Fulgrims, and had to issue a refund or two, all thanks to vigilant hobbyists keeping an eye on him...
as far as i remember, without going back through all 43 pages of this thread, Resin Forge did indeed get caught with their hand in the cookie jar...
please, correct me if i'm wrong...

cheers
jah