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 MajorTom11 wrote:

I wonder if we really need to bother with the whole denial song and dance,

bolters4life wrote:
Being from Dallas, makes me guilty when a proxy could have just as easily hid who I am? Also, knowing someone also makes me guilty when my posts took no sides.

The new Admin that keeps getting talked down to is a well known member of the DFW gaming community. Many people, even here know him, gamed with him or bought from him when he worked in various games stores.

I refuse to get into debates or arguing matches with anyone, let alone on a site known for it.

I simply gave my opinion just as everyone else and just like anyone who gives a general opinion on the matter, they are accused of being a doop or fool for DM. I'm not either of those.

I hope everyone has a wonderful day. I'm finding mine to be better then thought!

Evidently, yes.

Edit

Oh, and Daniel, if you took the time to proofread and spellcheck, it would make it ever so slightly harder to spot you when you do this. But then, you have about a million other tells in your writing style, so probably not worth the effort.

I'm no doop.

I'm also wrong on it being warhamspter that mentioned Mr Burroughs and knowing personal friends that knew who as well. I will find the post later, its 2 or 3 pages back at least by now, if i had to guess.

I have to get back to it. I'm sure ill enjoy the mass paranoid posts you guys make over the next 2-3 hours.

bolters4life wrote:
Scroll up, warhamster knows him via others in the same gaming circles.

Yes, to quote his whole post:

 warhamster77 wrote:
His current admin is friends of some of my close personal friends, and I still find it odd that no one has ever seen this guy in any of the shops in DFW. Nor know anyone that plays games with him.

You must have misunderstood me. I have absolutely no doubt that Daniel Mandelbaum can dupe someone into working with/for him. He did it to many people under his Miniature Wargame Conversions cover. This is why it is important to expose his involvement in things, so that people know what they're getting into.

The fact that he can dupe a proxy into working with him means absolutely nothing- it is something he is absolutely known for. If he did not do so, I would start to doubt if Daniel Mandelbaum were really involved!

The point is, that you typed as if you have knowledge of the "new Admin" as well, which is why I asked how you came by this knowledge. It doesn't really matter who gets involved- the point is, Daniel Mandelbaum is, and that means that a scam is inevitably lurking around the corner.

Which is why I'll be watching for it, as always, along with others who have seen this exact same process play out several times before, with a nearly identical MO.

 RiTides wrote:

bolters4life wrote:
Scroll up, warhamster knows him via others in the same gaming circles.

Yes, to quote his whole post:

 warhamster77 wrote:
His current admin is friends of some of my close personal friends, and I still find it odd that no one has ever seen this guy in any of the shops in DFW. Nor know anyone that plays games with him.

You must have misunderstood me. I have absolutely no doubt that Daniel Mandelbaum can dupe someone into working with/for him. He did it to many people under his Miniature Wargame Conversions cover. This is why it is important to expose his involvement in things, so that people know what they're getting into.

The fact that he can dupe a proxy into working with him means absolutely nothing- it is something he is absolutely known for. If he did not do so, I would start to doubt if Daniel Mandelbaum were really involved!

The point is, that you typed as if you have knowledge of the "new Admin" as well, which is why I asked how you came by this knowledge. It doesn't really matter who gets involved- the point is, Daniel Mandelbaum is, and that means that a scam is inevitably lurking around the corner.

Which is why I'll be watching for it, as always, along with others who have seen this exact same process play out several times before, with a nearly identical MO.

Best. Post. Ever.

Right to the point and specifically, I agree with just about every single bit. Just as i was saying last night

Which is why I'll be watching for it, as always, along with others who have seen this exact same process play out several times before, with a nearly identical MO

But this. I am no doop and have known him for 17 years. I was not tricked into anything and have done zero wrong to any of you. I have even taken both sides.

You must have misunderstood me. I have absolutely no doubt that Daniel Mandelbaum can dupe someone into working with/for him. He did it to many people under his Miniature Wargame Conversions cover. This is why it is important to expose his involvement in things, so that people know what they're getting into.

Finally, this made me literally pee myself a bit.

If he did not do so, I would start to doubt if Daniel Mandelbaum were really involved!

>

bolters4life wrote:
I'm no doop.

Again, whether or not you are is totally irrelevant, what matters is what you are posting. Daniel interchanges his own posts with those of people he has tricked into supporting him quite liberally- it literally does not matter to me one bit to show whether you are "him" or just "a supporter".

bolters4life wrote:
I'm also wrong on it being warhamspter that mentioned Mr Burroughs and knowing personal friends that knew who as well. I will find the post later, its 2 or 3 pages back at least by now, if i had to guess.

Again, it doesn't matter. Has Daniel Mandelbaum, in nearly every one of his scams, gotten other known wargaming individuals to work with him? Yes. In every single one. So, why does it matter if a known scammer has a "new Admin"? The answer is: it doesn't matter at all, and I honestly don't care other than to point that person to his history of scamming, and let them make up their own mind about him. I've done so many times in the past, and it always ends in tears for the person who chose to work with/for him.

bolters4life wrote:
I have to get back to it. I'm sure ill enjoy the mass paranoid posts you guys make over the next 2-3 hours.

This, and the comment about "a site known for it" are extremely telling. Regardless, as I said, your identity matters to me not one bit, just what you post. And what you post is to try to clear the name of a known scammer, and it is very likely that you will do exactly the opposite. Once again, a "new Admin" is an approach Daniel Mandelbaum has used a half dozen times in the past. Why would any rational person believe that "this time will be different"?

The definition of insanity is: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. I encourage any and everyone who would be tempted to believe excuses made here to look at the History of Daniel Mandelbaum in the Wargaming Community thread for evidence on exactly why that would be a terrible idea.

"dupe". Seriously. It's spelled right in the posts you quote and then you go out of your way to misspell it.

Come on. At least pretend you care about communicating effectively.

On the contrary, I am not standing up for him in anyway. I have also agreed with many valid points raised.

As for tears, no. there are always three sides to a story and that would be my understanding on why there are still threads on him to begin with and now ones calling out Mr Burroughs.

(on a store/shop thats not even open nor has been from what i can see at least 8 months?)

bolters4life wrote:
But this. I am no doop and have known him for 17 years. I was not tricked into anything and have done zero wrong to any of you.

To be clear, I didn't say you had. I said Daniel Mandelbaum is a known scammer, who has countless times in the past made up aliases, used fake "friends" to defend him, all while also getting actual wargaming individuals to work with him to unknowingly help cover his tracks.

This is why your identity doesn't matter to me. They all get mixed together. When I tracked down everyone connected to his Miniature Wargame Conversions venture, I found that many were real individuals, who for some reason let their names be associated with him (and cut ties as soon as the scams were exposed). These individuals were mixed in with fake identities that Daniel Mandelbaum used.

Daniel Mandelbaum (or a "friend") even impersonated a lawyer to try to get the information about him on Dakka removed.

So again, to be clear:

1. I don't care if you are his friend of 17 years
2. I don't care if he has a "new Admin"
3. I don't care if either of those is really Daniel Mandelbaum

All I care about is that it is known that Daniel Mandelbaum is involved in any venture. If people decide to work with him once they know the facts, that is entirely their choice.

The rest is just smoke and mirrors, a dog and pony show designed to distract people from seeing the basic facts- which are, Daniel Mandelbaum uses both his own name, aliases, and real people to disguise his scams. But any venture involving Daniel Mandelbaum has always ended in a scam. There is no reason to believe any future ventures will not. That is the only reason this thread exists- to point out Daniel Mandelbaum's involvement in any venture, so that people can be informed.

So, for the tenth time- I don't care about the identity of any of the individuals involved- yourself, the "new Admin", or anyone else. Only that they are working with Daniel Mandelbaum, who has used many "good people" for his scams in the past, and would continue to do so if not for his being exposed so quickly by the wargaming community.

Resin Forge was no scam. Links please? they will simply show 2-3 people who had custom problems and were given refunds even after paper was provided as proof of shipping as well as tracking.

That is the one thing I will stand up for him over.

As for his MO, watch, wait, you will find nothing I'm afraid. I do understand your points and frankly, I do respect them. But please, do not say a company was a scam when it was not.

EDIT: All we can do is watch and wait to see how it plays out but know, my eyes are on both sides and I will not be played by either party, friend or forum. I will take both sides in and make my own mind up. Until them, lets watch for the MO you and others speak of!

Resin Forge was totally a scam. The only reason no one lost money is because it was exposed in record time, due to all the attention Daniel Mandelbaum now receives on Dakka whenever he tries a new scam.

The evidence of such is all over the prior portion of this thread, where he was taking preorders for a limited Forgeworld item and did not deliver it. People didn't lose money, but it was still a scam. Why do you think it wasn't one?

So, you admit you know him, and you were posting earlier in this thread pretending you didn't. Resin Forge wasn't a scam just means you can't read or can't be bothered to read, or, you are a dupe. It's not our job to convince you that DM is trouble, nor will you ever convince us otherwise. So why are you here exactly? To tell us we are paranoid? So paranoid I was exactly right, for the millionth time in a row lol? The fact you can't spell under pressure certainly is telling bud.

Daniel, you're boring. We don't give a gak about you, we only give a gak about the people you try to steal from, you don't seem to understand the difference there. You can lurk as you always do but keep your lies to yourself. No one believes you, no one cares about the rats in the sewers, they just worry about the diseases they carry. If you are going to attempt to drag the conversation in a direction where we pretend facts aren't facts, then I'm going to dump you for trolling and spamming. We aren't playing this start from scratch game again, that ship sailed, got old, was decommissioned, and is now a nice little coral reef off the coast of bs island.

Edit - Nope. We're not playing the pretend we didn't find out everything we found out game. Go read the history that answers your questions, we are not-redebating facts. Resin Forge scammed us by lying about being a company, lying about goods they never had access to, lying about the owners, lying about the owners relationship with one another. The end. And even if the didn't, and it shows who you are, Daniel Mandelbaum certainly has the history, and he is't getting out of it. He can change his names, change his companies, but he can't change himself or his history, and that's that. No one owes him anything, we don't need to give him another chance. We simply say -

NO. GO AWAY.

bolters4life wrote:Good question and I will ask but right off the top of head, companies take pre orders all the time and don't complete on time, Making people need to wait or send refunds.

(cough cough, GW for one, 90% of kick starters as well.)

Resin Forge was open for 9 months or so You really think that MO matched his old ones as you say? To me it seemed he turned a new leaf to run a legit company. And no im not standing up for any past actions and until i talk to him directly, this is all just IMHO.

(Edit: bolters4life had made an edit in the above post which contained an offer to "ask Daniel" about Resin Forge, which I replied to below)

Well, I'm not interested in playing the "telephone game" where a friend asks Daniel for his thoughts, then relays them here, etc. I have no interest in whether Daniel Mandelbaum has turned over a new leaf. Only tracking whether or not he is involved in a new venture.

If he is reviving Resin Forge, and has admitted as much, I really see no reason to continue the discussion.

I.e:

Daniel Mandelbaum is still involved in Resin Forge, and is using a "new Admin" and a "friend of 17 years" to speak for him.

That's all that really matters, he's still connected to it, you're his "friend of 17 years", and his fingerprints are all over it. "New Admin" or not, he's involved, and that's all this thread exists to point out.

If people choose to work with him after that, it's their choice... the facts are out there for all to see regarding his past scams and methods, which mirror current events.

Edit

No longer relevant in light of MT11's edit.

Tom, how is he stealing if there is no store or shop? (and by connection saying Mr Burroughs is a thief as well)

Because you feel you found Resin Forge FB page online? with a new owner coming in, with paper work, skype calls, the works and yet, just more insults from you, towards me, who did zero to you.

Banning me for speaking my mind would simply show this site cant even have valid conversations.






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 RiTides wrote:


Daniel Mandelbaum is still involved in Resin Forge, and is using a "new Admin" and a "friend of 17 years" to speak for him.

That's all that really matters, he's still connected to it, you're his "friend of 17 years", and his fingerprints are all over it. "New Admin" or not, he's involved, and that's all this thread exists to point out.

If people choose to work with him after that, it's their choice... the facts are out there for all to see regarding his past scams and methods, which mirror current events.

Steven is 31 years old and can be easily checked. No idea where you got a 17 year old from.

Also nice mod edit to remove my entire post just to insult me and talk about me. Really mature.

no one said he was 17, proof that you can't read

Cracks are showing now,

Mandelblow in 5...4...3...2....

I look forward to the skye call, if it actually happens, regardless of whether or not this is all leading up to another scam I'd like to hear the new owners reason, whether its real or not, for wanting to get the resin forge brand. His answer should be good for a laugh

 warhamster77 wrote:
no one said he was 17, proof that you can't read

Proof you have a studio, yet do not have a business license , nor list your address, just a phone number. Wow, RF did that too and was called a scam.

BTW your number shows you and he are actually very close ;P

I wish I had saved your post- to summarize, you were basically offering to talk to Daniel Mandelbaum as you said you are his friend of 17 years.

bolters4life wrote:
I am no doop and have known him for 17 years.

My point is, it matters not at all to me if you are his "friend" or not. This thread only exists to point out Daniel Mandelbaum's involvement with any venture. If you admit, as you have, that he is still involved in Resin Forge, "new Admin" or not, that's all people need to know.

They can make up their own minds on whether or not to deal with Daniel Mandelbaum's company, bearing in mind that he has done the same thing many times in the past.

Pretending this is a witch hunt or feigning martyrdom is also something that has come with every last venture. I have a feeling the goal was simply to get this thread locked. That's why I prefer engaging directly- your posts actually expose much more than they cover up about Daniel.

Perhaps worth pointing out for anyone who isn't aware, that "new admin" as far as FB is concerned, is merely one click from an existing Admin in the page.

So as any sort of implied authority, it is utterly meaningless and without any sort of gravitas.

The guy may not even know it's been done.

 RiTides wrote:
I wish I had saved your post- to summarize, you were basically offering to talk to Daniel Mandelbaum as you said you are his friend of 17 years.

bolters4life wrote:
I am no doop and have known him for 17 years.

My point is, it matters not at all to me if you are his "friend" or not. This thread only exists to point out Daniel Mandelbaum's involvement with any venture. If you admit, as you have, that he is still involved in Resin Forge, "new Admin" or not, that's all people need to know.

They can make up their own minds on whether or not to deal with Daniel Mandelbaum's company, bearing in mind that he has done the same thing many times in the past.

Pretending this is a witch hunt or feigning martyrdom is also something that has come with every last venture. I have a feeling the goal was simply to get this thread locked. That's why I prefer engaging directly- your posts actually expose much more than they cover up about Daniel.

I simply misread that as I'm replying to how many people at this point.

I will say your post, comes off as clear headed and makes valid points. I will end it there and say, I agree with you.

A: My phone is listed. B: My address is available upon request. C: I have never stolen from anybody, have even returned items that neither me nor the customer ordered. I live in Garland Tx, Mr Mandelbaum lives in Dallas. "close" is relative. And yes we a a legitimate studio, 1099 and everything. But nice try in trying to deflect the discussion in that you still can't read.

@Steve, this was it

Good question and I will ask but right off the top of head, companies take pre orders all the time and don't complete on time, Making people need to wait or send refunds.

(cough cough, GW for one, 90% of kick starters as well.)

Resin Forge was open for 9 months or so You really think that MO matched his old ones as you say? To me it seemed he turned a new leaf to run a legit company. And no im not standing up for any past actions and until i talk to him directly, this is all just IMHO.

Good then! We are agreed that:

1. It doesn't matter what your identity is- I am happy to grant that you are Daniel Mandelbaum's "friend of 17 years"... I have spoken to many of his "friends" in the past.
2. It doesn't matter that a "new Admin" is involved in the company, or what the identity of this individual is.
3. Daniel Mandelbaum has frequently used both fake "friends" and real wargaming individuals in his scams, and he is still involved in Resin Forge. The two are mixed together in every one of his scams.

So, as long as Daniel Mandelbaum's involvement in Resin Forge is highlighted in clear, bright, blinking neon letters... he is welcome to try and resurrect it. People can make their own choices on whether or not to deal with him, based on his history.

That fact being out there is literally the only thing I care about in relation to Daniel Mandelbaum. People can make their own choices from there.

Share the 1099 you "have". Only seems fair as frankly, i do not trust you nor as you trust me or Mr Mandelbaum or Mr Burroughs.

Also, its not a 1 click to make an admin. It takes the other party to accept.

Oh, two clicks?

My sincerest apologies, I will go and flagellate myself immediately and at length.

Thanks for preserving that post, Tom, much appreciated! I think it is good "evidence", and I agree that we don't need to continue the charade... just always like to have things come out of their own accord for all to see.

I'm not even sure what the above post means, so I'll leave it here.

As a final note- once again, many "friends" and real wargamers have been involved in Daniel Mandelbaum's schemes. The important thing to remember is that he is involved, and it is now clear that he is still involved with Resin Forge, as confirmed above by the person posting here.

Bolters4life will no longer be joining us, it is very obvious what his strategy is, we've been down that road before, and I'm not wasting my time or anyone else's debating something that is very, very clear, corroborated and on the record. This is not the first time nor the last time Daniel or one of his dupe's has come in and tried to 'prove' that RF was legit as if somehow, even if it were true (it's not), that would in turn mean Daniel is legit. Daniel is still under the impression that if he finds the right combination of alias and company it will mean we all suddenly forget the dozens of people he has scammed over the past decade and he is suddenly trustworthy. Not gonna happen D.

Now, back to realistic discussion and our vigil.

Just for it to be clear- As an Admin of a couple Facebook groups the other party does not have to accept to be made an Admin. One click and you're done. It would be very possible for the person to not know it, especially if they have group notifications turned off.