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Deetoz wrote:

"Resin Forge Store: Dakka says im Daniel and hive mind is Daniel as well. So im arguing with myself? In a private message? The fact the person keeps liking his own posts, its Kronk from Dakka. Hes the ONLY person on here ive seen like every comment they make.
Synes godt om · 5. juni 2013 kl. 03:42"

Ah yes. They tried to blame Kronk Kronkington III for some pretty vile gak, as i recall.

Yes that is true Jah, he offered a pre-sale on items he could not get through any channel. Then he said he was going to the HH weekender promising to spend billions to get tons of them. Then FW announced 1 per customer. Then they ran out early. Then RF couldn't prove they even went, citing it was too hard to gather up any evidence... you know, like a single person seeing them, or their tags, or even a plane ticket stub. Nothing. They were posting other peoples pictures as their own though, then when asked to post a pic of them next to a model, they were unable to do so. Other pictures turned out to be other peoples.

So, all that to say, yes, absolutely, they sold or tried to sell goods they absolutely did not have as pre-order items. Eventually they could get fulgrims, but not at the time or place they advertised. So ya, BS sale there.

Then there is the fact that multiple times they claimed daniel was out of the company, when all along it was Daniel or his girlfriend/wife the parrot lady of texas. Went through 3 aliases on that one. They also went on a heavy campaign of harrassment, culminating in sending a threatening letter to me (from Daniels Dad no less LOL, it's very threatening when a 30 year old man living at home sends his 'Dad' to threaten you lol).

Then, towards the tail end of that scam, he opened BCS and tried to sell someone elses custom warhound, 3d designed and printed, which he never had, claiming to be a dude named Alan.

Then it was back to RF to try and keep going despite everyone being onto him, announcing they were proceeding despite the trolls. Then they shut down again a day or 2 later lol.


Anyways, you would be hard bloody pressed to find a single grain of truth in anything this clown says. Ever. He is a remorseless and compulsive liar, and nothing to do with him, this community, and business, could ever possibly be trusted as legitimate.

And the real mystery, years later, remains: As he's a fairly talented converter; why he doesn't just run a legitimate and profitable business.

We'll never know.

Ahhh I forgot about the Fulgrims and the pre-order lies! I take back my point on the orders being the one possibly "clean" part of RF!

(not sure how I forgot about the Fulgrims but somehow I managed to).



Ouze - greed probably. He likely thinks that he can make more money with short term shops that then close down whilst having large amounts of outstanding orders. He's already got a lot of tricks to get people to forgo their Paypal protection periods and the like. It might not even have all started as a scam, he might have just honestly made a mistake* a long long long time in the past and wound up with "free money" and decided that "hey this is a good idea, lets do it again only bigger scale!"



* From what I recall of his past dealings, at least those flagged and mentioned, if such a mistake happened it might have happened in only an isolated case and thus never came to the wider attention of the net; or it might have happened outside of the miniatures hobby - wouldn't surprise me if his "downtimes" between Warhammer shops were spent targeting other niche hobbies with similar style scams.

 ironicsilence wrote:
Well without knowing how much "juice" resin forge has, I could see someone being interested in it from a search engine stand point.

Given that the first 4 Google hits before you get to RF's Facebook page are forum or Blog threads talking about their dodgy behaviour, that seems unlikely.

I have reported the Resin Forge FB page to Face Book as a scam.

Not sure what good that will do as I am not sure if he sells through there but if enough people report it the page may get closed.

I have also alerted all of the UK groups I am part of, as some people I know were tempted to order from him before.

Yeah... FB doesn't appear to take that stuff very seriously but never hurts to try.

He seems to have a compulsive need for attention, if it wasn't for all the attempts to steal from people I'd have sympathy for him getting help.

Ironically, I owe Mandelbonder thanks, if not for him I wouldn't have become friends with Aj or Tommy Clark Munkey Joe. Who both have been in my house and we have had massives foods together.

His current admin is friends of some of my close personal friends, and I still find it odd that no one has ever seen this guy in any of the shops in DFW. Nor know anyone that plays games with him.

Very true. I have good friends that I talk to everyday because of this thread and me being pulled into it. I have no new info other than noticing the FB site was getting new activity.

 kronk wrote:

Deetoz wrote:

"Resin Forge Store: Dakka says im Daniel and hive mind is Daniel as well. So im arguing with myself? In a private message? The fact the person keeps liking his own posts, its Kronk from Dakka. Hes the ONLY person on here ive seen like every comment they make.
Synes godt om · 5. juni 2013 kl. 03:42"

Ah yes. They tried to blame Kronk Kronkington III for some pretty vile gak, as i recall.

Sadly, there will be no parrots as Morty (the bird) is the true mastermind behind everything and refuses to show himself. (just for you Kronk, love you buddy! really, you have a great sense of humor that no matter what, always brings a smile to everyone (not being sarcastic))

-Daniel

Via the RF FB page.

Seems like you may have a not-so-secret admirer Kronk.

Like I said, hes an attention seeking troll.

Has the time for their skype interview come yet?

Lets be honest here he never intended to host it. The most we'll get is a bunch of the usual gullible fans and dummy accounts saying "Well -I- saw it didnt you?".

 doc1234 wrote:
Lets be honest here he never intended to host it. The most we'll get is a bunch of the usual gullible fans and dummy accounts saying "Well -I- saw it didnt you?".

But I want it to be as glorious as the last time he organised a live video/not really live video sort of thing. I really really do.

I wonder if its worth locking this thread?
Considering his commentary it sounds like he's just baiting Dakka for attention or smokscreening (or a mix of both). Either way attention on Resin Forge is only feeding his attention seeking side. We don't really want to encourage him in these activities.

Until such time as its actually running again he can't scam anyone unless he's doing it totally by private correspondence, and we likely won't hear from those trading that way with him until something goes wrong for them.

Well being from Dallas and having several friends in the Dallas gaming community, I have no mutual friends with the new owner.
Bit odd that someone interested in owning a miniature company has no mutual friends with a painting studio in the same area.
I shall be making some further inquiries into this and see who knows our new friend Steven Burroughs.

Cheers

 Overread wrote:
I wonder if its worth locking this thread?
Considering his commentary it sounds like he's just baiting Dakka for attention or smokscreening (or a mix of both). Either way attention on Resin Forge is only feeding his attention seeking side. We don't really want to encourage him in these activities.

Until such time as its actually running again he can't scam anyone unless he's doing it totally by private correspondence, and we likely won't hear from those trading that way with him until something goes wrong for them.

Yes. Its troll action or its not, either way there is no store or shop. Until that happens this is the same go around as has been done before.

 warhamster77 wrote:

His current admin is friends of some of my close personal friends, and I still find it odd that no one has ever seen this guy in any of the shops in DFW. Nor know anyone that plays games with him.

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:
Well being from Dallas and having several friends in the Dallas gaming community, I have no mutual friends with the new owner.
Bit odd that someone interested in owning a miniature company has no mutual friends with a painting studio in the same area.
I shall be making some further inquiries into this and see who knows our new friend Steven Burroughs.

Cheers

He has stated he rarely games in shops.

Also, the new Admin is someone known in the area, now what does that exactly have to do with Exiled knowing him or not. From what I'm aware Exile is based in Arlington, Texas or of Forth Worth. Not even the same cities as where new Admin or even "mastermind" would be.

Until the new owner takes over, and or the store opens again, this is wasted energy . The correct course of action (IMHO) is to simply watch for anything that seems odd and then report.

EDIT: IF the store or shop opens again, we have heard this dance before, so lets see how it plays out.

bolters4life wrote:


Also, the new Admin is someone known in the area, now what does that exactly have to do with Exiled knowing him or not. From what I'm aware Exile is based in Arlington, Texas or of Forth Worth. Not even the same cities as where new Admin or even "mastermind" would be.

Until the new owner takes over, and or the store opens again, this is wasted energy . The correct course of action (IMHO) is to simply watch for anything that seems odd and then report.

EDIT: IF the store or shop opens again, we have heard this dance before, so lets see how it plays out.

This is probably the best thing to do. We don't know yet if it is him opening the store and we wont know until it does.
If it is him then we all know his methodology already and will be able to warn others about his dodgy reputation and his methods.

@Ouze, I agree with Overread. He seems to believe that there is no point in doing the work when he can get the cash for free. Its a sad thing really, especially when he is such a good converter and painter.

 master of ordinance wrote:


This is probably the best thing to do. We don't know yet if it is him opening the store and we wont know until it does.
If it is him then we all know his methodology already and will be able to warn others about his dodgy reputation and his methods.

@Ouze, I agree with Overread. He seems to believe that there is no point in doing the work when he can get the cash for free. Its a sad thing really, especially when he is such a good converter and painter.

Seems the best option (and only one) to me right now. We know how things have been in the past and we simply need to watch for it. If it happens, we warn others as has been the past shutting him down rather quickly each time. It is also very sad as his skill far exceeds the average and its shamed to see it wasted.

Overread - I'm torn on your opinion. I see it as a 50/50 way in that it could have been either way. Quick cash or slow work/lazy. Who knows. All we can do now is watch, wait and if anything comes up, let the community know.

I general, posts with no new facts don't help anyone and in fact make his case stronger. Personally, I hope that the fact his new Admin is known in the local community is a great sign. I just hope he doesn't get harassed over all of this when he clearly, from what ive seen and head, has a great reputation as a stand up man.

bolters4life wrote:
Personally, I hope that the fact his new Admin is known in the local community is a great sign. I just hope he doesn't get harassed over all of this when he clearly, from what ive seen and head, has a great reputation as a stand up man.

Well to play devils advocate, facebook friends means very little (which is what I assume warhamster meant). No one has seen him in a store that he knows, played a game against him, etc. He's just facebook friends. Some people have thousands of them and couldn't name 50, and don't know hundreds of them beyond clicking the accept button.

 motyak wrote:

bolters4life wrote:
Personally, I hope that the fact his new Admin is known in the local community is a great sign. I just hope he doesn't get harassed over all of this when he clearly, from what ive seen and head, has a great reputation as a stand up man.

Well to play devils advocate, facebook friends means very little (which is what I assume warhamster meant). No one has seen him in a store that he knows, played a game against him, etc. He's just facebook friends. Some people have thousands of them and couldn't name 50, and don't know hundreds of them beyond clicking the accept button.

Good point.

I do assume btw you are talking of, Daniel.

+1 Exalt.

bolters4life wrote:

 motyak wrote:

bolters4life wrote:
Personally, I hope that the fact his new Admin is known in the local community is a great sign. I just hope he doesn't get harassed over all of this when he clearly, from what ive seen and head, has a great reputation as a stand up man.

Well to play devils advocate, facebook friends means very little (which is what I assume warhamster meant). No one has seen him in a store that he knows, played a game against him, etc. He's just facebook friends. Some people have thousands of them and couldn't name 50, and don't know hundreds of them beyond clicking the accept button.

Good point.

I do assume btw you are talking of, Daniel.

+1 Exalt.

No, the new admin. Assuming that's who warhamster was talking about, that is.

Aaaaand shock of shocks, our good friend Danny M or at the very best, one of his dupes acting under his direct instructions, is posting in this thread pretending to have nothing to do with him(self).... Drawn out the second someone posts something even vaguely sympathetic and trying to spin the situation back to 'give Danny a chance land'.

I won't say directly who it is, but it's the guy with 3 posts total all from yesterday who has been lurking in this thread for over a week, rhymes with 'olters4life', starts with b.

Nice try DM. And this is why you and anything to do with you must never be trusted.

 MajorTom11 wrote:
Aaaaand shock of shocks, our good friend Danny M or at the very best, one of his dupes acting under his direct instructions, is posting in this thread pretending to have nothing to do with him(self).... Drawn out the second someone posts something even vaguely sympathetic and trying to spin the situation back to 'give Danny a chance land'.

I won't say directly who it is, but it's the guy with 3 posts total all from yesterday who has been lurking in this thread for over a week, rhymes with 'olters4life', starts with b.

Nice try DM. And this is why you and anything to do with you must never be trusted.

I had my suspicions of this, but I take it you have confirmed this through the normal method the Mod's have used in the past?

bolters4life wrote:
Also, the new Admin is someone known in the area, now what does that exactly have to do with Exiled knowing him or not. From what I'm aware Exile is based in Arlington, Texas or of Forth Worth. Not even the same cities as where new Admin or even "mastermind" would be.

FWIW the DFW area consists of a lot of cities - Arlington and Fort Worth are part of the same metropolitan area.

It's like saying Humble and Houston are different cities. While technically correct it's an irrelevant distinction.

 gunslingerpro wrote:

 MajorTom11 wrote:
Aaaaand shock of shocks, our good friend Danny M or at the very best, one of his dupes acting under his direct instructions, is posting in this thread pretending to have nothing to do with him(self).... Drawn out the second someone posts something even vaguely sympathetic and trying to spin the situation back to 'give Danny a chance land'.

I won't say directly who it is, but it's the guy with 3 posts total all from yesterday who has been lurking in this thread for over a week, rhymes with 'olters4life', starts with b.

Nice try DM. And this is why you and anything to do with you must never be trusted.

I had my suspicions of this, but I take it you have confirmed this through the normal method the Mod's have used in the past?

It's confirmed yup. Not that anyone should be surprised at this point really... I wonder if we really need to bother with the whole denial song and dance, or a few newer fair-minded users giving the benefit of the doubt or distrusting me because I never say how I know or if we can just skip to it being acknowledged it's Daniel and move on lol. There might be a threat from his Daddy somewhere in there too eventually lol. Sigh.

Yes, definitely him or someone acting on his direct instructions, as the spelling and grammar are a bit better than usual. The lies are the same as always though.

bolters4life wrote:
Also, the new Admin is someone known in the area

Daniel has tried this "new Admin" angle sooooooooo many times. When I was negotiating with him under his Miniature Wargame Conversions cover, he swapped names several times, and couldn't even keep track of them himself. He kept saying "This person is no longer involved in the company, now it is this person" all the while using the same phrases, arguments, and delaying tactics as usual.

It is transparently obvious. How in the world you somehow (in the above quote) claim to know that the "new Admin" is "known in the area" is interesting. How did you come by this knowledge? And with 3 posts, why are you defending a known scammer?

I don't think it's worth going through the whole exercise of proving the endless sockpuppet accounts again. The main thing, for all of us here, is just to keep an eye out for any new commercial / converting / transactional behavior. That's all that has ever interested me, nipping the scams in the bud- and I'll be watching for the next one, as always, regardless of the antics that Daniel tries to pull to distract people and turn things into a witch hunt and martyrdom.

I encourage everyone else to remain focused on that same mission, as well- it's the only reason I'm posting here, and likely the last post I'll make on this subject. I've been down this road before and was largely responsible for exposing Daniel's true identity. At this point, he has become largely irrelevant to the wargaming community, and countless people are on the lookout for him trying a new scam. If he does, it will likely be exposed quickly and shut down, just like the last 3 have been.

But recycled excuses and delaying tactics like "new Admin"... come on, seriously. It is, again, transparently obvious what Daniel is doing... so, those of us who keep an eye on the wargaming selling/trading community will be watching and waiting for him, as always.

Once again I encourage folks not to play into Daniel's efforts and make a circus here. Just be focused on the true point- keeping him from scamming others, as he has a well documented history of doing. Give that thread a good read if you haven't seen this before, and please keep any "popcorn / piling on" posts out of this thread, as they do not help expose him- which is the only purpose of these threads.

He can never stay away for too long. So predictable.

Being from Dallas, makes me guilty when a proxy could have just as easily hid who I am? Also, knowing someone also makes me guilty when my posts took no sides.

The new Admin that keeps getting talked down to is a well known member of the DFW gaming community. Many people, even here know him, gamed with him or bought from him when he worked in various games stores.

I refuse to get into debates or arguing matches with anyone, let alone on a site known for it.

I simply gave my opinion just as everyone else and just like anyone who gives a general opinion on the matter, they are accused of being a doop or fool for DM. I'm not either of those.

I hope everyone has a wonderful day. I'm finding mine to be better then thought!




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 RiTides wrote:

bolters4life wrote:
Also, the new Admin is someone known in the area

Daniel has tried this "new Admin" angle sooooooooo many times. When I was negotiating with him under his Miniature Wargame Conversions cover, he swapped names several times, and couldn't even keep track of them himself. He kept saying "This person is no longer involved in the company, now it is this person" all the while using the same phrases, arguments, and delaying tactics as usual.

It is transparently obvious. How in the world you somehow (in the above quote) claim to know that the "new Admin" is "known in the area" is interesting. How did you come by this knowledge? And with 3 posts, why are you defending a known scammer?

Scroll up, warhamster knows him via others in the same gaming circles.