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 Overread wrote:
Honestly I'm actually happy for a more modest model. The problem with big stuff is whilst it looks impressive you quickly reach a point of "how the heck do I actually get these to the shop"

Tyranids have a LOT of big models right now and big models look impressive, but they full up bag space (even if you use magnetic racks) really quickly.

Yep pretty much the most annoying thing about collecting these... One big model is fine but they should have stuck with the Carnifex for the maximum size of the majority of the big boys. Then reduce gaunts sizes and keep warriors as they are.
Now you have huge creatures spam and maybe looks cool for the cool kids for like a couple years or so, but then its simply just a hassle to store or take anywhere to the point you cant look at them anymore. Not even talking about the tentacled mess they seem to think its kewl... just poor design really. Increase in size and add tentacles...

A pair of lictor with optional deathleaper build would be fantastic.

Chopstick wrote:
A pair of lictor with optional deathleaper build would be fantastic.

It seems like we might see another wave of characters for everyone later in the year or early next year, independent of codex releases.

So you might get your wish!

 Geifer wrote:


Also last time around Tyranids got Bigass Biovore and Tyrannosaurus Fex. Was there even demand for any more big Tyranids?

Exocrine was at least in fluff before. If they wanted something like Tyrannofex they could easly make plastic Hierodules instead.

Still waiting for a plastic 40k-scale Dactylis!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Still waiting for a plastic 40k-scale Dactylis!

Then there are at least two of us. Oh, and do not forget Malefactor!

The Malefactor was effectively like an APC for Tyranids, while the Dactylis was an indirect artillery piece. Not sure whether GW thinks Tyranids having an APC monster is not alien enough these days.

Yeah, I’m not sure about the Malefactor. The basic bugs are plenty fast enough on their own already…

The Dactylis though… a mobile, super-heavy version of a Sporocyst? Yes please.

I mean it doesn't have to be "super-heavy". Just an indirect equivalent of a Basilisk.

Basically it is to the Basilisk what the Exocrine is to the Leman Russ.

I think the Tervigon is kind of the Malefactor in kind - whilst it births bugs, its basically the closest kind of transport mechanism. On top Tyranids have gained burrowing features through the trygon line to further advance into the field.

Malefactor I think is kind of been provided in some form and worked around. You could even have the Tervigon birth other bugs such as all gaunt strains and rippers pretty easily without having to change the model.


Dactylis would be cool. Heck before they went off sale recently I was tempted to get the huge floating Forgeworld spore mines

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I mean it doesn't have to be "super-heavy". Just an indirect equivalent of a Basilisk.

This. Being able to throw other models as improvised missiles would be fun too

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I mean it doesn't have to be "super-heavy". Just an indirect equivalent of a Basilisk.

This. Being able to throw other models as improvised missiles would be fun too

Hah, that would be fun. Like the IK power fist; kill a thing then fling it for MW on some luckless target. Infantry hit for 1, bikes for D3.

Edit: actually, semi-related question; does anyone have any good idea why only one Sporocyst is allowed to spawn Spores per turn?

 Overread wrote:
I think the Tervigon is kind of the Malefactor in kind - whilst it births bugs, its basically the closest kind of transport mechanism. On top Tyranids have gained burrowing features through the trygon line to further advance into the field.

Malefactor I think is kind of been provided in some form and worked around. You could even have the Tervigon birth other bugs such as all gaunt strains and rippers pretty easily without having to change the model.


Dactylis would be cool. Heck before they went off sale recently I was tempted to get the huge floating Forgeworld spore mines

The Malefactor wasn't used to transport Termagants or Hormagaunts. I mean you could but it was a waste, and its real role in Epic was to transport Genestealers in relative speed and safety. Its counterpart the Haruspex was the general close assault creature.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/XTEpZheWFGC2pWI3.pdf

Codex: Tyranids won't be quite as broken as some thought...

Eh, not that big. The new 'dex's rules for Leviathan are pretty damn tasty and you can still fairly easily build a Crusher Stampede equivalent list. You're basically trading the powers and 5++ for TransNid or TransNid Lite.

I'm not really feeling the loss of it tbh.

Also, it's just clicked that the Parasite of Mortrex is not a unique named character. It's a unit type.

All the other 'named' characters state your army can only have one of them. The Parasite -doesn't-

There were Sisters of Battle rules in Pariah???

ERJAK wrote:
There were Sisters of Battle rules in Pariah???

Ephrael Stern.

'Valid until January' is... interesting. Is that a vaguely projected end date for something?

'unless superseded by a codex' is just a bizarre statement. Several of those things are explicitly supplements, so are in addition to a codex. How doe that get superseded?
That was exactly the problem with the Leviathan and Crusher additional rules. That have to say outright that they don't apply anymore.

Voss wrote:
'Valid until January' is... interesting. Is that a vaguely projected end date for something?

'unless superseded by a codex' is just a bizarre statement. Several of those things are explicitly supplements, so are in addition to a codex. How doe that get superseded?
That was exactly the problem with the Leviathan and Crusher additional rules. That have to say outright that they don't apply anymore.

I guess, that a supplement only applies to the codex that is current at the time of the supplement's release, and then gets superseded by any new codex that comes after? Does that make sense? Or gw sense anyways?

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

Voss wrote:
'Valid until January' is... interesting. Is that a vaguely projected end date for something?

'unless superseded by a codex' is just a bizarre statement. Several of those things are explicitly supplements, so are in addition to a codex. How doe that get superseded?
That was exactly the problem with the Leviathan and Crusher additional rules. That have to say outright that they don't apply anymore.

I guess, that a supplement only applies to the codex that is current at the time of the supplement's release, and then gets superseded by any new codex that comes after? Does that make sense? Or gw sense anyways?

Not really? Because sometimes it isn't that cut and dry- I can't actually tell you for sure that all these books came before or after the current codex.


Especially since chaos marines don't have an expiration date on the Faith & Fury additions. (yes, book of fire does, and in theory they're the same, but its amusing oversight)

Saw someone on discord earlier ask GW about the Deathleaper resin model being no longer available:



It's worth noting that Deathleaper still has a unit entry in the codex, unlike Red Terror who was recently discontinued. There was also a rumour last year about an upcoming Kill Team set featuring new Lictors.

Fingers (and rending claws) crossed...

Voss wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

Voss wrote:
'Valid until January' is... interesting. Is that a vaguely projected end date for something?

'unless superseded by a codex' is just a bizarre statement. Several of those things are explicitly supplements, so are in addition to a codex. How doe that get superseded?
That was exactly the problem with the Leviathan and Crusher additional rules. That have to say outright that they don't apply anymore.

I guess, that a supplement only applies to the codex that is current at the time of the supplement's release, and then gets superseded by any new codex that comes after? Does that make sense? Or gw sense anyways?

Not really? Because sometimes it isn't that cut and dry- I can't actually tell you for sure that all these books came before or after the current codex.


Especially since chaos marines don't have an expiration date on the Faith & Fury additions. (yes, book of fire does, and in theory they're the same, but its amusing oversight)

Well, it was just a guess.

But both the CSM stuff in Faith and Fury as well as Creations of Bile in War of the Spider, are marked with asterisks marking that they were consolidated in Charadon 2, which does have an expiration date. But I'm like you with keeping what came out when straight: I can't do it. There's just been too much, and with very little apparent order.

 xttz wrote:
It's worth noting that Deathleaper still has a unit entry in the codex, unlike Red Terror who was recently discontinued. There was also a rumour last year about an upcoming Kill Team set featuring new Lictors.

Fingers (and rending claws) crossed...

The Red Terror was removed? That's a shame - another one to email them about adding to Legends, I guess.

A, I hope this new document is kept up-to-date as stuff is released and retired, even if that just means once per quarter.
B, Why no WHC article on the release of this yet? Was it posted anywhere on social media by GW?

 xttz wrote:
Saw someone on discord earlier ask GW about the Deathleaper resin model being no longer available:

Spoiler:

It's worth noting that Deathleaper still has a unit entry in the codex, unlike Red Terror who was recently discontinued. There was also a rumour last year about an upcoming Kill Team set featuring new Lictors.

Fingers (and rending claws) crossed...

Plastic Lictors, oh lord I would love that.

We're due for a new Kill team next month too....

Plastic Lictor/deathleaper and Bio/pyrovores have been on the cards for so long its insane. Esp as Tyranids haven't had anything else to eat up releases for a long while. Still surprising to me that GW left money on the table not doing those kits.

 Sasori wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Saw someone on discord earlier ask GW about the Deathleaper resin model being no longer available:

Spoiler:

It's worth noting that Deathleaper still has a unit entry in the codex, unlike Red Terror who was recently discontinued. There was also a rumour last year about an upcoming Kill Team set featuring new Lictors.

Fingers (and rending claws) crossed...

Plastic Lictors, oh lord I would love that.

We're due for a new Kill team next month too....

Lictors vs. Lunch, er Leagues of Votann KT box? I can dig(est) it…

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Saw someone on discord earlier ask GW about the Deathleaper resin model being no longer available:

Spoiler:

It's worth noting that Deathleaper still has a unit entry in the codex, unlike Red Terror who was recently discontinued. There was also a rumour last year about an upcoming Kill Team set featuring new Lictors.

Fingers (and rending claws) crossed...

Plastic Lictors, oh lord I would love that.

We're due for a new Kill team next month too....

Lictors vs. Lunch, er Leagues of Votann KT box? I can dig(est) it…

And that is one gem of a comment, exalted!

Plastic 3 pack that builds either 3 Biovores or 3 Pyrovores, and, say, there's 2-3 spore mines per model as well. That'd be one heck of a box. I'd buy that in an instant. Despite having played Tyranids since before they even had a Codex, I've never managed to pick up a Biovore. I've never liked any version of the mini they've made - original flavour, 'big gorilla' version, or the current one. Hopefully 4th times a charm!

 Overread wrote:
Still surprising to me that GW left money on the table not doing those kits.

GW never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity. The only surprising thing about this is that you're surprised by it at all.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Plastic 3 pack that builds either 3 Biovores or 3 Pyrovores, and, say, there's 2-3 spore mines per model as well.

Spore mines in that kit are a must but after Parasite release, which has no Rippers even if his rules/fluff would suggest otherwise, I am worried they could not include any in the kit.

 Overread wrote:
Plastic Lictor/deathleaper and Bio/pyrovores have been on the cards for so long its insane. Esp as Tyranids haven't had anything else to eat up releases for a long while. Still surprising to me that GW left money on the table not doing those kits.

Well the most likely reason is that Nids are next in line for the new edition treatment in 10th like Necrons received in 9th. Overhaul the old troop models, add a big plastic LOW kit, and replace a bunch of old finecast stuff in one go.

Plus it's not like GW have outright stopped making 40k models. So far this year we know Eldar & CSM have major range updates, plus two new CK kits. Then Squats, Imperial Guard, World Eaters, and maybe Daemons are also likely to see significant model releases in the next 12 months. I don't get how they're "leaving money on the table" by making all that other new stuff before... plastic pyrovores?